LE Swapping Static meshes in game

[icecreamassassin]

Ok... so I am vexed. What I have is a museum with displays galore. You bring a unique relic to the museum and find the display for it, click on the display, it moves the item to a hidden chest somewhere and enables a static reference of that weapon model. Alternately a sorter activator can go through the lists and take every displayable item from you and enable the displays. The mesh the display itself uses is a custom, de-havoked version of the item model. The reason for this is because Skyrim's engine sucks at actually obeying the havok management script, and 'don't havok settle' is about useless when you have over 240 items suspended in mid air that otherwise would have havok built into the NIF, and setting up a model as a static form doesn't actually mitigate havok. So I made true static meshes instead.

 

Issue is that I am trying to set up an MCM menu to manage WHAT appearance you want your unique weapons to have. So if you use Unique Uniques, Unique shapes for unique weapons, or any other model alteration mod, they all fight with one another unless you make a patch in xEdit yourself. So this MCM menu would change the models out on the items depending on which check box you choose (giving the option for the mods you have installed). No problem, this will work and I can implement it. The problem is that SKSE does not have a change mesh option for static objects as far as I can tell, so I cannot change the models for the display items. The object reference is very heavily linked into the display system and several scripts so there is no way to simply plop in a new reference, or pre-place it and condition it to enable instead and then remove the others, so I am left trying to figure out if there is some way to swap the model of a static reference somehow.

 

Any ideas?

[MotoSxorpio]

Ok... so I am vexed. What I have is a museum with displays galore. You bring a unique relic to the museum and find the display for it, click on the display, it moves the item to a hidden chest somewhere and enables a static reference of that weapon model. Alternately a sorter activator can go through the lists and take every displayable item from you and enable the displays. The mesh the display itself uses is a custom, de-havoked version of the item model. The reason for this is because Skyrim's engine sucks at actually obeying the havok management script, and 'don't havok settle' is about useless when you have over 240 items suspended in mid air that otherwise would have havok built into the NIF, and setting up a model as a static form doesn't actually mitigate havok. So I made true static meshes instead.

 

Issue is that I am trying to set up an MCM menu to manage WHAT appearance you want your unique weapons to have. So if you use Unique Uniques, Unique shapes for unique weapons, or any other model alteration mod, they all fight with one another unless you make a patch in xEdit yourself. So this MCM menu would change the models out on the items depending on which check box you choose (giving the option for the mods you have installed). No problem, this will work and I can implement it. The problem is that SKSE does not have a change mesh option for static objects as far as I can tell, so I cannot change the models for the display items. The object reference is very heavily linked into the display system and several scripts so there is no way to simply plop in a new reference, or pre-place it and condition it to enable instead and then remove the others, so I am left trying to figure out if there is some way to swap the model of a static reference somehow.

 

Any ideas?

Equipping overhaul overcomes this, I think, in some manner. Have you checked out that mod for an example? You might have to get a .pas or skyproccer to add the statics, then use it from there?

 

EDIT: thinking out loud here...

Edited July 8, 2015 by MotoSxorpio

[icecreamassassin]

I'm not familiar in the least with using the extensions that the proccer uses, and I assume this would mean having to setup a patch ahead of time rather than in game? like I said I have no clue lol

[MotoSxorpio]

I'm not familiar in the least with using the extensions that the proccer uses, and I assume this would mean having to setup a patch ahead of time rather than in game? like I said I have no clue lol

yeah, pretty much have users run a patcher so you can have a formid list or whatnot for your scripts.

[icecreamassassin]

oh I actually use a GetFormFromFile() method for determining which model modification mods they have loaded and since the actual items are vanilla based, the form list isn't really a concern, it's really just about the functions involved in figuring out how to actually change out the static mesh, not about changing the weapon or armor itself, that part I can handle aside from the static

[sLoPpYdOtBiGhOlE]

I don't think there is a native way with papyrus or skse to do what your after.

Apart from writing your SKSE plugin to do the job and that I really wouldn't know where to start, well the plugin yes I know how to start, but the calls involved to accomplish it, no idea.

 

Ways around havoc, but not foolproof though are drop the item from the inventory, and after the 3D is loaded SetMotionType(4) (Motion_Keyframed) and TranslateTo or MoveToNode where you want the item.

Makes it so the item will sit solid and wont budge when knocked or bumped.

 

I did similar, but I created a node tree in nifscope. which had aaround 200 nodes (nothing else but nodes, no shaders or collision or any other crap).

Then in my script i had an array of node strings that matched and array of base items (thanks to skse and greater then 128 array size).

basically get the base ID of the Item I'm about to drop, do a find on the form array, if >-1 , drop the item set motion type, move to node using the find return from the form array on the node array of strings.

Worked pretty well.

The slowest part is waiting for the 3D to load of the item before setting motiontype.

[Mattiewagg]

There's a function for Armors and Weapons, which means it PROBABLY won't work on ObjRefs but you should definitely try.

 

http://www.creationkit.com/SetModelPath_-_Armor

http://www.creationkit.com/SetModelPath_-_Weapon

 

Also, this probably won't work but it might have a function you're looking for, somewhere:

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37481/?

[icecreamassassin]

Yeah I utilize the weapon and armor mesh replacement allot. Do you suppose if I reference the objectreference with a "as weapon" tag to trick the system into pretending that the static is actually a weapon form, do you think that could possibly work?

[sLoPpYdOtBiGhOlE]

No, tried it myself.

Works like a bool.

 

eg;

If (MyStatc As Weapon)

;If my static is an actual static then this will never be called eg: (MyStatc As Weapon) == None

EndIf

[kryptopyr]

Have you tried this: http://www.creationkit.com/SetWorldModelPath-_Form