Bain/OBMM Load Order

[Hickory]

No, that is not the way things work when simply overwriting folders, as most mods suggest. When you manually copy a mod's data folder into your game data folder, ANYTHING that is already there gets overwritten, and is gone for good... POOF! There is no way of rolling back. With BAIN, however, this is not the case. BAIN keeps track of everything that gets installed, and if you uninstall a BAIN package Wrye Bash rolls back to the state it was in before the installation, so nothing is lost. Very clean, no?

[bben46]

@ Hickory

When you manually copy a mod's data folder into your game data folder, ANYTHING that is already there gets overwritten, and is gone for good... POOF! There is no way of rolling back.

 

Not true. When you manually copy data, it does not actually overwrite the existing data UNLESS that data has the exact same name (rare). Otherwise it appends the new data to what was already there. Been doing it this way since day 1. :biggrin:

 

If it did actually overwrite old data you would only be able to use one mod at a time as the only data in the folders would that from the most recently installed mod.

 

And you can 'roll back' however that involves going through your data folders and finding each entry that was installed by the mod you are trying to remove - usually not that difficult as the stuff added by a particular mod is usually in it's own sunfolders

 

However using Bain or OBMM is still preferable even if you just use them for the roll back feature when uninstalling mods. :thumbsup:

[Hickory]

@ Hickory

When you manually copy a mod's data folder into your game data folder, ANYTHING that is already there gets overwritten, and is gone for good... POOF! There is no way of rolling back.

 

Not true. When you manually copy data, it does not actually overwrite the existing data UNLESS that data has the exact same name (rare). Otherwise it appends the new data to what was already there. Been doing it this way since day 1. :biggrin:

 

If it did actually overwrite old data you would only be able to use one mod at a time as the only data in the folders would that from the most recently installed mod.

 

And you can 'roll back' however that involves going through your data folders and finding each entry that was installed by the mod you are trying to remove - usually not that difficult as the stuff added by a particular mod is usually in it's own sunfolders

 

However using Bain or OBMM is still preferable even if you just use them for the roll back feature when uninstalling mods. :thumbsup:

 

No, sorry Ben, you are wrong. Think about what overwriting means. If you manually overwrie a file, it is gone, for good. Put a mod called mymod.esp in your data folder. Now place somebody else's mod called mymod.esp into the data folder. What have you just done? You have overwritten YOUR mod called mymod.esp and lost it. Remember, I am not talking about adding, I am talking about overwriting.

 

I think there is a misunderstanding of sorts here. ;)