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So, after 14 months of modding FO3, I've run into a bug where I least expected it. The Ultimate Perk Pack seems to freeze the game whenever I pick any perk. I'm only using both packs and the original perk mods. I've heard that it's an incompatibility with FWE, and I've replicated this around 4 different times, but the thing is, I can't confirm this without uninstalling UPP...but I don't know how. I tried an uninstall of all files in UPP, but I still crash, so no luck there. Any help would be appreciated, here's my load order:

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

StreetLights.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

Destruction.esm

Impervious Power Armour.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

xCALIBR.esm

xCALIBRuniverse.esm

Project Beauty.esm

EVE.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

iHUD.esm

Mothership Crew.esm

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

EnclaveCommander-OA-Pitt-Steel.esm

TSC Air Support.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

MyMansion.esp

Sydney Follower.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

TakingOutTheTrash.esp

TOTTPointLookoutEdition.esp

CASM.esp

Feng Shui.esp

GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp

UPP - Experience Perks.esp

UPP - Quest Perks.esp

UPP - Beverage Perks.esp

Destruction - Main.esp

Destruction - Main - Statics.esp

Destruction - DLC.esp

Destruction - DLC - Statics.esp

Megaton House and Theme Overhaul.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

AsharasBatmanItems.esp

ColtM4Carbines_RHIronSights.esp

ZL-MP5 Pack.esp

3EFdrg.esp

Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp

DragonskinBonusPack.esp

sunglassescollection.esp

Slof's Alsatian Dogmeat.esp

Gunfire Sound Range Increased.esp

EVE.esp

EVE Operation Anchorage.esp

EVE - FWE Master Release.esp

EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp

EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp

EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

1PipboyPDA.esp

UPP - Pack 1.esp

UPP - Pack 2.esp

UPP - Original Perks.esp

ZL-ACR.esp

Aim Toggle.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp

RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp

RH_FWE_Patch.esp

Fellout-pipboylight.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

Fellout-Anchorage.esp

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

Fellout-PointLookout.esp

Fellout-Zeta.esp

Destruction - CP - Fellout.esp

xCALIBRuniverse.esp

xCALIBRUniverse - WMK.esp

RH_IronSights_Vanilla_NewWeapons.esp

RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp

Sydney Follower - FWE Dialog Fix.esp

Remove That Glove.esp

1alexscorpionsnipergear.esp

1jeansandshirt.esp

The Mall OverHaul.esp

M1911.esp

drc_FatManUltra.esp

New Slower Degradation.esp

TSC Air Support.esp

MyMansion_FastTravelIndoors.esp

KnockYourselfOut.esp

Sydney Follower - Project Beauty Appearance - Custom Hair.esp

M14_EBR.esp

BrokenSteelFix-GNRAnnouncements.esp

Bobbleheads.esp

FalconPunch.esp

TenpennyGhoulsAtPeace.esp

Sydney Follower - Load Order Fix.esp

Merged Patch.esp

 

Total active plugins: 138

Total plugins: 138

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I would suggest beginning with a few particular actions:

 

1. Get and install Wrye Python 03A and Wrye Flash and BOSS.

 

2. Run BOSS, let it download a new masterlist and then let it sort your load order. Pay particular attention to the listing it will generate and display in your browser, since it will contain useful warnings about mod incompatibilities, special handling requirements and so forth, if any exist.

 

3. Put the archive files for your UPP components into the BAIN Installers folder created by WryeFlash, and then use Wrye to install them directly from there. This will hopefully fix any files that were erroneously deleted during the failed uninstall, and will provide a way to track exactly which files UPP is putting where.

 

4. Get rid of that FO3edit merged patch and use Wrye Flash to create a bashed patch to replace it.

 

If you need help with any of that stuff, especially that last step, just lemme know.

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