Dawnguard quest "Prophet" not triggering - won't advance beyond "A New Order"

[DjaySaint]

Long post describing the problem and troubleshooting done to try to solve.

 

TL;DR version - Dawnguard is broken, can't advance past completion of "A New Order" ("Prophet" will not trigger). I've tried force starting via console and tons of solutions like resetting Serana, etc. Please help fix.

 

EDIT: Load Order (some of the plugins like X pack combined are done by me and aren't "normal" mods, they are just merged armor sets or other things)

 

 

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So as the title says, I'm having a major issue with Dawnguard at the moment which I cannot figure out. I have Googled for hours and tried everything I can possibly think of to troubleshoot it. With that said, I'm only having this issue on my Thief character Grace. My Ranger character Alyssa has already completed Dawnguard with 0 issues, which is why I can't figure out the cause of the quest line getting stuck on Grace. Anyway, some background:

 

I restarted my character Grace after Alyssa (who has already completed Dawnguard). I turned Grace in to a vampire at the start of the game (not vampire lord though) via MCM menu with Better Vampires. I played through the game and have ran in to a couple issues here and there (Lydia using Throw Voice shout instead of normal follower dialogue which is a known bug, Proventus Avenicci not selling me Breezehome because dialogue is missing, etc), but no quests were broken that I knew of until I hit Dawnguard.

 

So I completed the following Dawnguard quests:

 

1. Dawnguard

2. Awakening

3. Bloodline (I chose to refuse the "gift" which put me on the Dawnguard side)

4. A New Order

 

So in the last stage of "A New Order", when you enter Fort Dawnguard with Gunmar and Sorine, Isran will shine light down and see who is a vampire... and discovers that I'm a Vampire and gives me the "Rising at Dawn" quest to cure myself. I have done so, report back and Isran finally finishes his speech and tells me that Serana is upstairs waiting for me and to follow him to go talk to her.

 

Upon completion of "A New Order", the next quest "Prophet" does not start. After Isran tells me to go upstairs and the journal is updated to reflect "A New Order" is complete, nothing happens. The journal doesn't update with a new quest, and the quest marker to follow Isran is not present. I go upstairs, and Serana is not in the torture room where she should be. She is still in Castle Volkihar when I use the "player.moveto" console command. Isran just goes upstairs to the torture room, stops for a second where he would normally engage Serana in conversation, and turns around and walks off because she is not there.

 

I have loaded previous saves to restart the Dawnguard quest and this happens every time. I have used the "moveto player" command to move Serana to me, and she just casually walks out of the fort after to go back to Castle Volkihar. I have tried using the "resurrect" command, the "recycleactor" command. I have tried using the "setstage DLC1VQ03Hunter" to every single stage of the quest just trying to advance it at all, and no matter which stage I try to set (even 200 which completes the quest), it remains stuck at 00 and will not start. Now I can use the console to start the next 2 quests, "Chasing Echoes" and "Seeking Disclosure" just fine. However, the quest line is then broken because "Prophet" was never completed and I am missing an objective to obtain the Dragon Elder Scroll.

 

So at this point I'm just at my wits end trying to figure out how to advance my Dawnguard quest line without having to restart my game. I have seen a suggestion somewhere to uninstall Dawnguard, save, and reinstall Dawnguard to restart the whole Dawnguard quest line, but the problem with that is like half of my load order requires Dawnguard and I would have to disable those mods... which breaks my game. So far with every single thread, reddit post, or anything said anywhere on the internet I have not found a single solution to this or a good means of fixing it.

 

Does anyone have any ideas of what to try, or know what I can do in order to force the "Prophet" quest to start so that I may continue with my Dawnguard quest line? Again, I didn't have this issue with my other character Alyssa. I was able to complete it with her just fine. I'm just wondering if starting out as a vampire on Grace may have contributed to breaking Dawnguard somehow. The only new mod I've installed since my other play through was Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul and updates to Unofficial Skyrim Patches, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't touch Serana. Either way, help please :smile: It would be greatly appreciated if anyone could help me solve this issue.

Edited August 9, 2015 by DjaySaint

[DjaySaint]

Don't suppose anyone has any insight on this issue?

[DjaySaint]

I'll bump one last time I suppose to see if anyone has any suggestions or solutions.

[waldeh]

i suffered from the same problem. Reinstalling Dawnguard actually helps. I've also got some graphical mods that require Dawnguard but I luckily managed to run the game without them, install the DLC and voila! The game works as it should :-)

[Aintiarna]

Have you tried using Better Vampires to cure her vampirism before returning to fort dawnguard, thereby avoiding the Rising at Dawn quest and going straight to Prophet to see if that fixes it? Or perhaps curing the vampirism even earlier?

 

Is this character a custom race? Custom race+vampire+dawnguard seems to cause lots of quest issues it seems.

[Aintiarna]

Ok, I've just had a look at DLC1VQ03Hunter in the creation kit. It has a lot of quest aliases that need to get set up for it kick off properly. If just one of them fails to fill, you'd get the results you describe. Some of the aliases involve npcs like Hulda and innkeepers which would be affected by something like immersive citizens. It might be a long shot, but if that's the only mod you've changed apart from the unofficial patches, it might be worth uninstalling it and replaying from the later stages of A New Order to see if it fixes it.

[DjaySaint]

i suffered from the same problem. Reinstalling Dawnguard actually helps. I've also got some graphical mods that require Dawnguard but I luckily managed to run the game without them, install the DLC and voila! The game works as it should :-)

 

I can't reinstall Dawnguard though. I have too many mods that rely on it. The main mod that relies on it is the custom race I'm using for the character I'm playing. Disabling Dawnguard means I have to disable at least 1/3 of my load order and most of those mods are essential. Unfortunately, the game wouldn't even load if I did that or else I would reinstall it. I'd like to though :sad:

 

 

Have you tried using Better Vampires to cure her vampirism before returning to fort dawnguard, thereby avoiding the Rising at Dawn quest and going straight to Prophet to see if that fixes it? Or perhaps curing the vampirism even earlier?

 

Is this character a custom race? Custom race+vampire+dawnguard seems to cause lots of quest issues it seems.

 

I haven't tried using the Better Vampires to cure. Perhaps I could give that a go instead of doing the Rising at Dawn quest all together. I have loaded a save earlier in the quest line (right before I dropped off Serana to the castle and told her father to piss off again), and did the Rising at Dawn quest before even starting the "A New Order". I still ran in to the same problem. Although I wasn't a vampire anymore and didn't have the quest interrupted, the end result was still the "Prophet" quest not triggering, and Serana just casually chilling in her castle.

 

Also, my character is a custom race. Temptress. I used a custom race for my first Dawnguard playthrough but she wasn't a vampire so that could be it.

 

 

Ok, I've just had a look at DLC1VQ03Hunter in the creation kit. It has a lot of quest aliases that need to get set up for it kick off properly. If just one of them fails to fill, you'd get the results you describe. Some of the aliases involve npcs like Hulda and innkeepers which would be affected by something like immersive citizens. It might be a long shot, but if that's the only mod you've changed apart from the unofficial patches, it might be worth uninstalling it and replaying from the later stages of A New Order to see if it fixes it.

 

I'll try uninstalling it and giving it a shot, but I'm not sure if it will work. With Immersive Citizens, you have to start a new game for the changes to become persistent and take effect. I think in order to completely remove the effects of the NPCs it has, you may have to restart a new game as well. I'm not sure, but I'll give it a shot and see what happens. I'll pop open Dawnguard in the creation kit again and look at the quest aliases and try to do some more investigating.

 

 

Thanks for the replies. I'll try curing via Better Vampires, and/or removing Immersive Citizens and see if that does anything.

Edited August 12, 2015 by DjaySaint

[AlphaGuardian777]

Unofficial Skyrim Patch, Unofficial Dawnguard Patch, Unofficial Dragonborn Patch and Unofficial Hearthfire Patch. A series of awesome mods that fix hundreds, if not thousands of bugs. I don't play without them.

[strangerism]

Did you find a solution? I having the same problem with the quest not starting, the only difference is I am on the vampire side. Edited October 7, 2015 by strangerism

[BleedingEye]

I had the problem that Bloodline never starten after awaking ended. serana just walk away. I fixed the problem by isolating the source to girls army, girls overhaul and tiny children fix. I also ran tes5edit cleaned heartfire multiple adoptions (HMA). what i've found while cleaning is tes5edit showed me some dirty files/edits on HMA dialogs. It seems that in combination with http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/65155/? these dialogs conflict with each other and the quest doesnt start.

 

So i've uninstalled the thos mods, cleaned HMA with tes5edit then typed in the console the setstage command to go to the previous quest then back to the actuall quest. The exact lines were:

this should restart the quest awaking:

setstage DLC1VQ01 10

 

then

setstage DLC1HunterBaseIntro 20

 

I have not tried it out with The Bloodstone Chalice Quest yet so i can't say anything for that. I hope this gives you at least a lead if not solves your problem.