Maybe it's a load order problem?

[FizzleMoose]

Alright, I never post on forums, and I feel really stupid for not knowing what to do, but before I do anything major or drastic I thought I'd give it a shot. Some mods that I installed with NMM just simply aren't showing signs of life in game. For example, iWASM. I press the wait button, and it's the vanilla wait menu. Convenient Horses? Hotkeys don't work. Yes, I have the latest Skyrim version and latest SKSE, and all my mods should be compatible with each other. Of course, if there's something I missed, that's why I'm here. All the mods I am about to list are active, and installed in the correct order, following specific instructions by the mod authors when given. Oh, and I use LOOT to sort my load order, but I should probably do a lot more than that.

 

Note, some of these are from the Skyrim Workshop, and some are Workshop only.

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

3 3 Dawnguard.esm

4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

5 5 HearthFires.esm

6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

7 7 Dragonborn.esm

8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

9 9 SkyMoMod.esm

10 a ApachiiHair.esm

11 b ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

12 c EFFCore.esm

13 d RSkyrimChildren.esm

14 e RaceCompatibility.esm

15 f Cutting Room Floor.esp

16 10 whistle.esp (Considering getting rid of this one, since convenient horses already has a whistle. Haven't used it since installing Convenient Horses.)

17 11 skyrimgranary.esp (Randomly doesn't work sometimes.)

18 12 zinvestedmagicsteam.esp

19 13 clothingjewelryfix.esp

20 14 dispel.esp

21 15 drak_knockspell.esp

22 16 ETaC - Complete.esp

23 17 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

24 18 dragonborn mansion.esp

25 19 Dragon Born Castle.esp

26 1a guard dialogue overhaul.esp

27 1b Immersive Whiterun.esp

28 1c Immersive Solstheim.esp

29 1d hearthfireextended.esp

30 1e marriagemod - alpha v3.esp

31 1f zabswitchhat.esp

32 20 glimmer.esp

33 21 better bloodskal blade.esp

34 22 metallica for whom the bell tolls.esp

35 23 dragonboneweaponscomplete.esp

36 24 togglewolf.esp

37 25 rumplestiltskindagger.esp

38 26 deadmansarsenal.esp

39 27 auto unequip ammo.esp

40 28 frostmourne sword.esp

41 29 SkyUI.esp

42 2a JaxonzRenamer.esp

43 2b Stone of Xerxes.esp

44 2c elegantvampirearmor.esp

45 2d SadisticMagicianMashup.esp

46 2e Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

47 2f NerniesArmorPack.esp

48 30 Better Vampires.esp

49 31 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

50 32 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

51 33 Immersive Weapons.esp

52 34 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

53 35 daedric ritual remake.esp

54 36 Inconsequential NPCs.esp

55 37 skyex.esp

56 38 Hideout_DLC_Main.esp

57 39 joomasslightning.esp

58 3a imaddonunlimitedservants.esp

59 3b infinitedaedricchargesbyfioran.esp

60 3c staffofmagnus.esp

61 3d SofiaFollower.esp

62 3e blacksmithsstoragebymrsaibot.esp

63 3f Immersive Music Temples.esp

64 40 Immersive Music.esp

65 41 bordersense.esp

66 42 grimreapersatanskiss.esp

67 43 item recycling.esp

68 44 turndownforwhat combat music.esp

69 45 MidasSkyrim.esp

70 46 Raven Witch Armor.esp

71 47 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

72 48 armored circlets.esp

73 49 CommonClothes.esp

74 4a Differently Ebony.esp

75 4b aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

76 4c EFFDialogue.esp

77 4d mindcontrol.esp

78 4e phasespells.esp

79 4f transmutedragonsoul.esp

80 50 UIExtensions.esp

81 51 VLW_Hybrid.esp

82 52 RSChildren - Complete.esp

83 53 RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp

84 54 RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp

85 55 KrittaKitty_horses_uniqueFrost.esp (Oh, and there's a mod that changes horse textures. Doesn't work either.)

86 56 Convenient Horses.esp

87 57 FNISspells.esp

88 58 Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp (If I have the option selected to remember my equipment, a partial "shell" of a werewolf encases my character.)

89 59 Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp

90 5a CharacterMakingExtender.esp

91 5b EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

92 5c USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp

93 5d RaceMenu.esp

94 5e RaceMenuPlugin.esp

95 5f vwrNeckSeamFix.esp

96 60 TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp

97 61 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

98 62 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

99 63 EmpyreanWarpaints.esp

100 64 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

So again, if anybody can tell me what's going on or what I'm doing wrong, that'd be great.

Edited August 9, 2015 by FizzleMoose

[megageeklizzy]

Have you used LOOT or BOSS? SkyUI seems a little lower than I think it should be, but I could be wrong.

[saurusmaximus]

LOOT is a good starting point, but usually you have to tweak things yourself. On that subject, when was the last time you ran it, and is it the most up to date verison? Because I agree with the above post that your load order looks like it could use some work. Try moving Convieninent horses down lower to see if that helps, not sure what iWASM is, didn't see anything with those letters in your LO, is it even installed? It might be a good idea for you to run your load order through tesvedit and see what kind of errors/conflicts you find.

[FizzleMoose]

iWASM = Immersive Wait and Sleep Menu. Got that bit fixed, but now my wait/sleep menu extender mod wont work xD

 

I shuffled my load order around. Only a few minor problems were fixed, but new problems arose as I built up my playthrough. Better Vampires is stuck on "Please Feed to Update" and I have tried SEVERAL different orders for it, and related files. I guess I'll just post my current load order again (It's different this time. A little.) ._.

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

3 3 Dawnguard.esm

4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

5 5 HearthFires.esm

6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

7 7 Dragonborn.esm

8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

9 9 SkyMoMod.esm

10 a ApachiiHair.esm

11 b ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

12 c EFFCore.esm

13 d RSkyrimChildren.esm

14 e RaceCompatibility.esm

15 f Cutting Room Floor.esp

16 10 whistle.esp

17 11 skyrimgranary.esp

18 12 zinvestedmagicsteam.esp

19 13 clothingjewelryfix.esp

20 14 dispel.esp

21 15 drak_knockspell.esp

22 16 dragonborn mansion.esp

23 17 Dragon Born Castle.esp

24 18 ETaC - Complete.esp

25 19 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

26 1a guard dialogue overhaul.esp

27 1b Immersive Whiterun.esp

28 1c Immersive Solstheim.esp

29 1d hearthfireextended.esp

30 1e marriagemod - alpha v3.esp

31 1f zabswitchhat.esp

32 20 better bloodskal blade.esp

33 21 metallica for whom the bell tolls.esp

34 22 dragonboneweaponscomplete.esp

35 23 rumplestiltskindagger.esp

36 24 deadmansarsenal.esp

37 25 auto unequip ammo.esp

38 26 frostmourne sword.esp

39 27 SkyUI.esp

40 28 JaxonzRenamer.esp

41 29 Stone of Xerxes.esp

42 2a elegantvampirearmor.esp

43 2b SadisticMagicianMashup.esp

44 2c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

45 2d NerniesArmorPack.esp

46 2e aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

47 2f ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

48 30 Immersive Weapons.esp

49 31 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

50 32 daedric ritual remake.esp

51 33 Inconsequential NPCs.esp

52 34 skyex.esp

53 35 Hideout_DLC_Main.esp

54 36 joomasslightning.esp

55 37 imaddonunlimitedservants.esp

56 38 infinitedaedricchargesbyfioran.esp

57 39 staffofmagnus.esp

58 3a SofiaFollower.esp

59 3b blacksmithsstoragebymrsaibot.esp

60 3c Immersive Music Temples.esp

61 3d Immersive Music.esp

62 3e bordersense.esp

63 3f grimreapersatanskiss.esp

64 40 item recycling.esp

65 41 turndownforwhat combat music.esp

66 42 TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp

67 43 MidasSkyrim.esp

68 44 Raven Witch Armor.esp

69 45 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

70 46 armored circlets.esp

71 47 CommonClothes.esp

72 48 glimmer.esp

73 49 Differently Ebony.esp

74 4a aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

75 4b EFFDialogue.esp

76 4c mindcontrol.esp

77 4d phasespells.esp

78 4e transmutedragonsoul.esp

79 4f UIExtensions.esp

80 50 RSChildren - Complete.esp

81 51 RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp

82 52 RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp

83 53 FNISspells.esp

84 54 Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp

85 55 Convenient Horses.esp

86 56 KrittaKitty_horses_uniqueFrost.esp

87 57 CharacterMakingExtender.esp

88 58 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

89 59 RaceMenu.esp

90 5a RaceMenuPlugin.esp

91 5b USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp

92 5c vwrNeckSeamFix.esp

93 5d The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

94 5e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

95 5f EmpyreanWarpaints.esp

96 60 Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp

97 61 togglewolf.esp

98 62 VLW_Hybrid.esp (Despite my overwriting problems, this is just the last order I tried, so don't think I haven't tried it with this below BV.)

99 63 Better Vampires.esp

100 64 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Says something is overriding the vampire quest scripts for Better Vampires. Disabled VLW Hybrid (Vampire Lord & Werewolf) and tried in game, nothing changed, still "not using BV scripts". Looked in TES5Edit, only things conflicting with BV is Dawnguard.esm, Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esm, and VLW Hybrid. VLW Hybrid states that it is compatible with both Moonlight Tales and Better Vampires, and (From a noob at TES5Edit's point of view) it seems to work just fine. Or it SHOULD. Now, I'm trying to fix all this without starting a new game, but I think perhaps later I'll try starting a new game and report back how it goes. For now, fixes to these problems would be wonderful.

[fiewiel]

First, as youre still at the beginning, drop NMM and install mod organizer. It has a slightly higher learning curve, but its sooo much better.

As you dont have MO, I can only guess that one of the mods is overwriting BV or racecompatibility scripts. I would say RKchildren is doing that, but that doesnt mean there arent other mods.

You also have to follow the BV instructions for installing the mod to the point. Especially if youre using a custom race.

Edited August 13, 2015 by fiewiel