Stuttering Issue for Operation Anchorage Specifically?

[DonnieBrasco453]

I encountered a very strange problem with Fallout 3. Typically, i run the game at a very smooth framerate on Ultra settings, but for some reason as soon as i get into Operation Anchorage my game instantly begins stuttering. I dont think its an issue with the frame rate itself, since it runs very well at a good framerate. the problem is that it has this annoying stuttering issue, like something that happens in an online game when you have bad internet connection. problem is this is a single player game and i am having stuttering issues similar to the effects of lag. has anyone else ever encountered this issue before where only Operation Anchorage specifically stutters? is there a way to fix this?

[Purr4me]

saved game please, right at the occurrence.

2shared.com is where I will download from.

 

that holds the information required to see what's wrong.

 

No Scriptextend applications can be Enforce during hard save of this issue. "FOSE" excluded in the saved game.

 

I can't and won't bother testing (Fose) saved games.

Vanilla games are ok.

 

specs, place where the game is installed at also effect FPS lag. Tools used, mods installed and what has been done to these mods.

 

version controls are also a problem.

I am the author of Anchorage Alive 2077

 

post the data.

[DonnieBrasco453]

@Purr4Me I PMed you my last save game. For the record, the stuttering issue started as soon as i entered the operation anchorage sim; the rest of fallout 3 runs buttery smooth without any stuttering issues. Also, here is my load order if it helps you discern the issue:

 

Fallout3.esm=1

Anchorage.esm=1

ThePitt.esm=1

StreetLights.esm=1

BrokenSteel.esm=1

PointLookout.esm=1

Zeta.esm=1

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1

Gangs Of The Wasteland.esm=1

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm=1

Project Beauty.esm=1

ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm=1

Sydney Follower.esp=1

CRAFT.esm=1

CALIBR.esm=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm=1

JHBCloverPlus.esm=1

TalonExtraArmor.esm=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp=1

CrossRepairWeapons.esp=1

Improved Clover.esm=1

Sydney Follower - Recruitment Fix.esp=1

Sydney Follower - FWE Dialog Fix.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1

TallerDC.esp=1

MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp=1

WeaponModKits.esp=1

RH_WMK_Bridge.esp=1

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp=1

CharonImproved.esp=1

Realistic Interior Lighting.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1

TallerDC - UF3P-DLC3-StreetLights patch.esp=0

TallerDC - UF3P-DLC3 patch.esp=0

TallerDC - UF3P-StreetLights patch.esp=0

TiesThatBind.esp=1

TallerDC - UF3P patch.esp=0

Follower Amata ULTIMATE.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1

RH_FWE_Bridge.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1

Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1

Dogmeat Leather Armor - no crafting.esp=1

F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp=1

kikaiEquipment.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp=1

MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp=1

MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities less NPCs.esp=0

RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp=1

Fellout-PointLookout.esp=0

RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp=1

ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp=1

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DC Interiors.esp=1

Fellout-Zeta.esp=0

Fellout-pipboylight.esp=0

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp=0

Fellout-Anchorage.esp=0

KTs_Centercamera.esp=1

GNR Enhanced.esp=1

FerrymansHood.esp=1

Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp=1

BlackWolf Backpack.esp=1

BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp=1

BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp=1

RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp=1

megalight.esp=1

UrgeScarfFallout3.esp=1

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp=1

PureWater-VeryClearNoRad-.esp=0

PureWater-VeryCleanLittleRad-.esp=1

PureWater-NoRad-.esp=0

PureWater-LittleRad-.esp=0

DragonskinBonusPack.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp=1

CrossRepairArmor.esp=1

Compatibility_Plugin_TalonExtraArmor_FWE_BrokenSteel.esp=1

Compatibility Plugin00 TalonCo & Marts.esp=1

Compatibility Plugin01 PunisherGear & TalonCo.esp=0

Opportunist Armor.esp=1

Metro 2033.esp=1

HZSmoothLight - FO3.esp=1

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp=1

Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp=1

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp=1

Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp=1

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp=1

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp=0

Project Sydney_AK.esp=1

Sydney Follower - Load Order Fix.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp=1

CASM.esp=1

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp=1

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp=1

KillableChildren.esp=1

FO3LODGen.esp=1

Unique Dogmeat.esp=1

CorrosionDress.esp=1

KelseyCompanion.esp=1

LeatherBackpack - rus.esp=0

LeatherBackpack - eng.esp=1

Wasteland Soldier Armor.esp=1

JHBCloverPlusOverride.esp=1

Improved Clover.esp=1

UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp=1

bittercup_comp.esp=1

[Purr4me]

Whoa ! That's a mighty large meat a balla !

 

LOL. Downloading data now. I do hope you saved this using only fallout3.exe and not fose as a startup?

 

why? well...tools I use don't use nor read fose opt codes so any scripts in a saved game that contain said code will be removed, when it removes it, breaks the chain in the code and thus disqualifies the saved games data..It Can not read it.

 

secondly, I can't run the game even if I install all of those mods and include Fose..just to match preferences..why? the same reason given for format differences between versions of the game on silverloc's site.

 

keep in mind all of this...important to maintain balance...you can't change whats on that CD or The digital download /images of this game.

I use Vanilla.

here is what i pulled so far.. From a buttery "smooth running game ! "

 

 

[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] Anchorage.esm
[X] ThePitt.esm
[X] StreetLights.esm
[X] BrokenSteel.esm
[X] PointLookout.esm
[X] Zeta.esm
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
[X] Gangs Of The Wasteland.esm
[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
[X] Project Beauty.esm
[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm
[X] Sydney Follower.esp
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[X] RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm
[X] JHBCloverPlus.esm
[X] TalonExtraArmor.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
[X] CrossRepairWeapons.esp
[X] Improved Clover.esm
[X] Sydney Follower - Recruitment Fix.esp
[X] Sydney Follower - FWE Dialog Fix.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
[X] TallerDC.esp
[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp
[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] RH_WMK_Bridge.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] CharonImproved.esp
[X] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] TiesThatBind.esp
[X] Follower Amata ULTIMATE.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] RH_FWE_Bridge.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] Dogmeat Leather Armor - no crafting.esp
[X] F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp
[X] kikaiEquipment.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp
[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp
[X] dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DC Interiors.esp
[X] KTs_Centercamera.esp
[X] GNR Enhanced.esp
[X] FerrymansHood.esp
[X] Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp
[X] BlackWolf Backpack.esp
[X] BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp
[X] BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] megalight.esp
[X] UrgeScarfFallout3.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
[X] PureWater-VeryCleanLittleRad-.esp
[X] DragonskinBonusPack.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
[X] CrossRepairArmor.esp
[X] Compatibility_Plugin_TalonExtraArmor_FWE_BrokenSteel.esp
[X] Compatibility Plugin00 TalonCo & Marts.esp
[X] Opportunist Armor.esp
[X] Metro 2033.esp
[X] HZSmoothLight - FO3.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp
[X] Project Sydney_AK.esp
[X] Sydney Follower - Load Order Fix.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp
[X] CASM.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
[X] KillableChildren.esp
[X] FO3LODGen.esp
[X] Unique Dogmeat.esp
[X] CorrosionDress.esp
[X] KelseyCompanion.esp
[X] LeatherBackpack - eng.esp
[X] Wasteland Soldier Armor.esp
[X] JHBCloverPlusOverride.esp
[X] Improved Clover.esp
[X] UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp
[X] bittercup_comp.esp

 

now, allowing of over indulgences...shear amount of the data / overloading the games engine...limit being clean game at or just under neath 225 cut off...average of 130 or less....we shall see where the code might be bottling up at.

Edited August 21, 2015 by Purr4me

[M48A5]

149 files in the load list is too many. The game becomes unstable at around 125-130 total files.

 

From the list you posted it looks like LOOT was used to make this mess. I suggest you read and follow the load orders posted on the various mod pages.

 

The mod authors know more about how their mods work than the people that put together LOOT. Follow the mod author's suggestions.

 

Also, uninstall any unused plugins. If it is in the data files, it will be loaded. Loose files are loaded before BSAs.

[DonnieBrasco453]

@M48A5 Aah okay, good point. Ill delete some useless plugins and see if that helps.

[Purr4me]

With what I have on board here I was able to sort some of it pretty quick.

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
StreetLights.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
CASM.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
GNR Enhanced.esp
BlackWolf Backpack.esp
BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp
BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main FileP.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp
HZSmoothLight - FO3.esp

 

thats just for starters.

 

you aware not even xedit TES5EDIT can not load your load order ...at all?

 

so, this being the case.. Either live with the slight stuttering and complete what you started or start over with a better setup.

IT is your choice...Buttery smooth game play verses our Ideas as to what the game needs to set up like.

 

There comes a time to decide what the user wants. not what we want.......If your happy, that's what matters.

 

if you want precise information, we can do that...the results verities...a lot of things depend on the users desires....these are the limits.

[Purr4me]

It might have been helpful if you had told me the game was German.

This is a NON English game.

http://postimg.org/gallery/rs7jh3zq/

Edited August 21, 2015 by Purr4me

[DonnieBrasco453]

@Purr4Me thanks, ill try to load my order like that as much as possible.

 

Oh and, i decided to try out the fake full screen since i heard that it improves performance. Surprisingly, all of the stuttering issues were gone...but that meant none of my mods would work since i didn't have FOSE active. Now when i ran fake full screen with FOSE, (i run it through steam) the stuttering issue is still there and the window doesn't even maximize =/ So long story short, Fake full screen fixes the stuttering issue, but it doesn't work with FOSE...

 

EDIT: It's German? Can't be, i got the game from steam and it is in english. o_O

Edited August 21, 2015 by DonnieBrasco453

[Purr4me]

On silverloc there is a version explicitly made for German users, you need to make sure any software you use to "tweak your game" uses German software....and targets the correct regions...the Engine is not as robust as we want it to be.

 

yes I can run any language game, but you can't mix and match a lot of stuff....just make sure we are all on the same page here.

I can figure it out...most can not.

The shots I just took are from your saved game loading up, there IS no mistake.