The Root

[WizardOfAtlantis]

Sure, but most people in power are not in power for the right reason.

Who knows how many are and how many aren't. I would say, though, that most of them can be swayed one way or another by enough motivated, concentrated public opinion, especially if it comes from their home constituents.

 

Of course, we need to remove the lobbying power that corporations have in the US, like it's already been mentioned. Was that you, Marharth? I think allowing equal time slots to all candidates would be a hammer blow to the corporate powers-that-be, immediately chopping off a great many hands-in-the-pockets of politicians. Once the playing field is leveled, people can act more like people, and be influenced by other people (their voters) more easily.

 

Once again it comes down to streamlining.

 

 

[grannywils]

Csgators, just want to tell you again, ya done good with this thread. We're up to I don't know how many pages now, and still have not been shut down. And we have some excellent posters, some really good debate, and some fascinating dialogue. It think it is one of the best threads I've seen in a long while. :thumbsup:

 

As far as the power issue goes, I agree to some extent that a lot of people in power may not be in power for the "right" reasons; but they got there somehow. So if those of us who don't think they should be there have a real gripe, we need to come up with a way to band together and try and develop our own power. Be it organizing into some sort of cohesive unit for voting, communicating, speaking our minds to the power brokers, refusing to purchase products from "unseemly corporations", etc., etc. It will cost us something. They have the power, and they have the money. What we have is our minds and hopefully our ability to communicate. Usually we don't have much power or much money. That gives them a major advantage, only if we let it. In my opinion many people in power are somewhat overly confident. They just assume that they are deserving of everything they have, and that the "little guy" doesn't know any better. Think back to the days of Haldeman and Ehrlichman. These two guys, for me, epitomize this kind of thinking. And look where it led them. We can work for a better America if we want to, but we cannot expect it to be handed to us. We need to take advantage of our foes' weaknesses. And I don't really mean to refer to them as our foes. They are just misguided power hungry, greedy and heartless corporate machines gone amuck. :whistling: . Hope I was clear enough about how I feel....

 

 

[marharth]

Csgators, just want to tell you again, ya done good with this thread. We're up to I don't know how many pages now, and still have not been shut down. And we have some excellent posters, some really good debate, and some fascinating dialogue. It think it is one of the best threads I've seen in a long while. :thumbsup:

 

As far as the power issue goes, I agree to some extent that a lot of people in power may not be in power for the "right" reasons; but they got there somehow. So if those of us who don't think they should be there have a real gripe, we need to come up with a way to band together and try and develop our own power. Be it organizing into some sort of cohesive unit for voting, communicating, speaking our minds to the power brokers, refusing to purchase products from "unseemly corporations", etc., etc. It will cost us something. They have the power, and they have the money. What we have is our minds and hopefully our ability to communicate. Usually we don't have much power or much money. That gives them a major advantage, only if we let it. In my opinion many people in power are somewhat overly confident. They just assume that they are deserving of everything they have, and that the "little guy" doesn't know any better. Think back to the days of Haldeman and Ehrlichman. These two guys, for me, epitomize this kind of thinking. And look where it led them. We can work for a better America if we want to, but we cannot expect it to be handed to us. We need to take advantage of our foes' weaknesses. And I don't really mean to refer to them as our foes. They are just misguided power hungry, greedy and heartless corporate machines gone amuck. :whistling: . Hope I was clear enough about how I feel....

You can't hurt a person in power anymore unless you hurt their money.

 

Just getting your word out won't help anymore.

[Dicecaster]

Before I forget (don't have a lot of time at the moment): watch this video. I thought it had to do with the whole topic of "what's wrong with the government" in general.

[Harbringe]

Before I forget (don't have a lot of time at the moment): watch this video. I thought it had to do with the whole topic of "what's wrong with the government" in general.

 

Just something to compliment DC's link above ,so watch his link first it's less than 10 min out of your life

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPqpV9olIlw

[evilneko]

Here is the point I am trying to make: No matter how well the public school system is doing, even if there are no educational alternatives, it is not necessary to protect our freedom, and therefore should not be continued by the government, rendering everything else moot.

 

I'm surprised no one commented on this.

 

Then again I am not sure it really needs comment.

[RZ1029]

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.

-Thomas Jefferson

 

Just sayin'.

[grannywils]

Csgators, just want to tell you again, ya done good with this thread. We're up to I don't know how many pages now, and still have not been shut down. And we have some excellent posters, some really good debate, and some fascinating dialogue. I think it is one of the best threads I've seen in a long while. :thumbsup:

 

As far as the power issue goes, I agree to some extent that a lot of people in power may not be in power for the "right" reasons; but they got there somehow. So if those of us who don't think they should be there have a real gripe, we need to come up with a way to band together and try and develop our own power. Be it organizing into some sort of cohesive unit for voting, communicating, speaking our minds to the power brokers, refusing to purchase products from "unseemly corporations", etc., etc. It will cost us something. They have the power, and they have the money. What we have is our minds and hopefully our ability to communicate. Usually we don't have much power or much money. That gives them a major advantage, only if we let it. In my opinion many people in power are somewhat overly confident. They just assume that they are deserving of everything they have, and that the "little guy" doesn't know any better. Think back to the days of Haldeman and Ehrlichman. These two guys, for me, epitomize this kind of thinking. And look where it led them. We can work for a better America if we want to, but we cannot expect it to be handed to us. We need to take advantage of our foes' weaknesses. And I don't really mean to refer to them as our foes. They are just misguided power hungry, greedy and heartless corporate machines gone amuck. :whistling: . Hope I was clear enough about how I feel....

You can't hurt a person in power anymore unless you hurt their money.

 

Just getting your word out won't help anymore.

 

Sorry, did not mean to post this again. Just correcting a misspelling

Edited April 11, 2011 by grannywils