Crashing when I approach Springvale School

[Davran]

Whenever I approach Springvale school, my game crashes and my computer tells me that fallout 3 has stopped responding

This is my load order

GameMode=Fallout3

Fallout3.esm=1

Anchorage.esm=1

ThePitt.esm=1

StreetLights.esm=1

BrokenSteel.esm=1

PointLookout.esm=1

Zeta.esm=1

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm=1

CRAFT.esm=1

CALIBR.esm=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm=1

EVE.esm=1

SeducingWomen.esm=1

EWE Energy Weapons Enhanced.esm=1

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm=1

Fellout-Full.esp=1

megalight.esp=1

YearlingsGlasses.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp=1

SeducedDLC03.esp=1

CoD Health Regeneration.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp=1

HeirApparent.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1

Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1

EWE Load Order Fix.esp=1

EWE Supermutant Energy Weapons.esp=1

EWE Stormfront Studios Load Order Fix.esp=0

FasterMorePowerfulMines.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1

UndergroundHideout.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp=1

PLweightadjust.esp=1

NotSoFast.esp=1

RH_FWE_Bridge.esp=1

WeaponModKits.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp=1

EWE DLC Addon.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp=1

RH_EVE_Bridge.esp=1

RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp=1

PLFewerItems.esp=0

RH_WMK_Bridge.esp=1

RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp=1

CASM.esp=1

HZSmoothLight - FO3.esp=1

[M48A5]

Your load order is a mess and it looks like one that was sorted by LOOT. Go to the FWE mod page and look at the sample load order provided by the FWE authors and correct yours.

 

Compatibility patches must always load after the last mod that is being patched.

[tripl07]

I'm having the same issue when I approach Springvale School. I'm new to modding, so no need to tell me what a mess my load order is in. Trust me, I've spent quite a bit of time trying to get it right, using several different "suggested" load orders, and I'm sure it's still not right, just because of my lack of knowledge. I've watched Gopher's videos, I've tried LOOT and fo3edit, and am still having some trouble. This is what I currently am using. This order is based mainly on the FWE suggested order, not LOOT:

 

GameMode=Fallout3

Fallout3.esm=1
Anchorage.esm=1
ThePitt.esm=1
StreetLights.esm=1
BrokenSteel.esm=1
PointLookout.esm=1
Zeta.esm=1
CRAFT.esm=1
CALIBR.esm=1
Project Beauty.esm=1
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1
EVE.esm=1
aHUD.esm=1
iHUD.esm=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp=0
Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp=1
Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp=1
WeaponModKits.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp=1
Flora Overhaul.esp=1
DC Moods.esp=1
lessviewdistance.esp=1
IMPACT.esp=1
Tripl07 Merged Patch.esp=0
Tripl07 Merged Patch2.esp=0
Rivet City Merchants.esp=1
RagdollOverhaulFo3.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
MegatonLighting.esp=1
Yevic'sSpaceStation.esp=1
FO3_WRP.esp=1
Tripl07 Merged Patch 3.esp=0
Tripl07 Merged Patch 4.esp=1

[Matt714]

Are you sure you used LOOT correctly? Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm should be after Zeta.

 

Moreover, delete all your merged patches. You're supposed to have one and one only; and it's supposed to be at the end.

 

There's a merged version of MMM there: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/16787/? only download 6.1 for the meshes/textures/sound folders

[M48A5]

Do not use LOOT for Fallout 3. It will not sort the files correctly.

 

Remove all of the disabled files. If the mod is in the "Data" folder, it will be loaded in the game.

 

Look over you load list and explain why you are trying to restore all tracers and restore tracers only to automatic weapons. This doesn't work. It is one or the other.

 

You need a compatibility patch for Mart's Mutant Mod to work with FO3 Wanderer's Edition. Blackened is the best one http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/18173/?

 

You have to read and understand the requirements in order to use Blackened and Mart's properly.

 

Did you ever run the game without mods? Did you add the mods one at a time as noted here: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/652876-fallout-3-modding-and-you/

[tripl07]

Thanks for the help guys, I really appreciate your input. I did adjust my load order by your suggestions, deleted unused files, installed patches, etc. My game is still crashing when loading. I'll go through and see if any mod in particular is causing a crash, I'm just vey fuzzy on which files work well with each other. For instance, I'm using the Chromatic Melancholy ENB, and used his list of mods as a suggestion. But some of that doesn't even make sense when I read about which mods are compatible with each other. Here is my current load order.

 

GameMode=Fallout3

Fallout3.esm=1
Anchorage.esm=1
ThePitt.esm=1
StreetLights.esm=1
BrokenSteel.esm=1
PointLookout.esm=1
Zeta.esm=1
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1
CRAFT.esm=1
CALIBR.esm=1
Project Beauty.esm=1
EVE.esm=1
aHUD.esm=1
iHUD.esm=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm=1
Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp=1
Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1
WeaponModKits.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp=1
Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp=1
Flora Overhaul.esp=1
DC Moods.esp=1
lessviewdistance.esp=1
IMPACT.esp=1
Rivet City Merchants.esp=1
RagdollOverhaulFo3.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
MegatonLighting.esp=1
Yevic'sSpaceStation.esp=1
Merged Patch.esp=1

[M48A5]

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp=1

 

Disable and uninstall, these are part of FO3 Wanderer's Edition.

 

A crash during loading is usually caused by a missing master. Open your mod manager, left click on each mod and the required masters will be displayed. Depending on which mod manager your are using, the display will usually be on the right.

[tripl07]

Ok I deleted those. No problems with the masters. If I load certan saves, it works for a while, then crashes. I guess I just need to start deactivating mods and see if I can narrow it down.

[tripl07]

The problem was that I didn't have my Archive Invalidation Activated. Every time I tried, my game crashed. I was able to fix it by deleting this file:

hud_main_menu.xml

 

From This Directory:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Data\menus\main

 

I'm not sure what negative effects this might have, but for now it seems to have fixed all my issues.

[Purr4me]

Ihud, any hud's forthat matter require use of this:

http://fose.silverlock.org/

 

with out that being installed ? no, the huds won't work. Scanned the thread and seen no mention of FOSE being installed.

It will crash the game after a time.