Help! I don't know whats wrong!

[Lost2270]

I re-bought Oblivion, and after around three weeks of trying to get it modded, have given up and turn to you for help. So I've been trying to get my oblivion game stable for awhile now, I've run it threw boss, I've redirected the BSA archives, I've bashed patched the s#*! out of it, LoDGen, the works, and I still crash every 10 to 15 minutes of gameplay. I'm not sure what I've done wrong, and maybe I just need less mods, but If its avoidable I'd rather keep the ones I have.

My Load Order is as follows:

Active Mod Files:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.35Beta]
02  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]
03  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
04  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
05  Artifacts.esm
06  cssBase.esm
07  HorseCombatMaster.esm
08  Oblivion Achievements CORE Version.esm
09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A  LoadingScreens.esp
0B  Natural_Weather_HDR_2.1.3_coloroverride.esp.esp
0C  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tae_CO_RD.esp
0D  Symphony of Violence.esp
0E  PCSoundMinsc_with_Boo.esp  [Version 1.9]
0F  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
10  00 Realistic Player Speech.esp
11  FOV Modifier.esp
12  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
13  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.9]
14  TreasureChest.esp
++  TreasureChest - FCOM.esp
15  Wyverex's - Runes.esp
16  Crowded Cities 15.esp
17  Crowded Cities 30.esp
18  Crowded Roads Advanced less crowded.esp  [Version 1.3]
19  PTRoamingNPCs.esp
1A  BookTrackerOBSE.esp
1B  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]
1C  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]
1D  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
1E  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
1F  DLCHorseArmor.esp
20  DLCOrrery.esp
21  DLCVileLair.esp
22  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
23  DLCSpellTomes.esp
24  Scarves!.esp
25  tda_Armoury.esp
26  Call Steed 2.5+Saddlebags 0.91.esp
27  DLCThievesDen.esp
28  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.35Beta]
**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
29  OOOEquipmentAddon.esp
++  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]
++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]
2A  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]
2B  Mart's Monster Mod.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
2C  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
2D  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Increased.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
2E  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
2F  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
30  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
31  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]
32  Oblivifall - Something Is Definately Not Right.esp
33  KnightlyArmory.esp
34  Artifacts.esp
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]
35  Clintmichs Beautiful Imperial City Arboretum v1.1.esp
36  Clintmichs Beautiful Arcane University.esp
37  Clintmichs Beautiful Elven Gardens District v1.1.esp
38  Clintmichs Beautiful Talos Plaza District.esp
39  EM_Packdonkeys.esp  [Version 2.1]
3A  Night Shops of Cyrodiil.esp
++  Oblivion Achievements CORE.esp
3B  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
3C  DLCFrostcrag.esp
3D  Knights.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
++  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp
3E  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
3F  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
40  xulTheHeath.esp
41  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
42  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
43  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
44  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
45  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
46  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
47  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
48  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
49  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
4A  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
4B  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
4C  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
4D  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
4E  xulPantherRiver.esp
4F  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
50  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
51  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
52  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
53  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
54  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
55  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
56  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
57  OOO-Snowdale patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
58  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
59  OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
5A  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
5B  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
5C  OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
5D  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.2]
5E  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
5F  Better Dungeons.esp
++  TreasureChest - Better Dungeons.esp
60  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]
61  Jhaerik's Dungeon Fog Remover.esp
62  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp
63  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]
64  Side's Backpacks.esp  [Version 1.0]
65  ATakesAll.esp
**  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
66  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.3]
67  Basic Physical Activities.esp  [Version 1.3]
68  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
69  Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
6A  Oblivion XP.esp
++  Dark Dungeons.esp  [Version 1.0]
6B  cssRhett.esp  [Version 1.0]
6C  cssCernd.esp  [Version 1.0]
6D  cssEdwin.esp  [Version 1.0]
6E  cssJaheira.esp  [Version 1.0]
6F  cssKeldorn.esp  [Version 1.0]
70  cssSarevok.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
71  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
72  MiniMap.esp
73  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
++  Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp
74  Clintmichs Market District Merchants v1.1.esp
75  Clintmichs Beautiful Market District MakeOver v1.4.esp
76  P1DseparatesPauldrons.esp
77  CCICPalaceGardens_Natural_Vegitation.esp
78  CCICPalaceGardens.esp
79  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Any help would be appreciated, if I need to just run less mods tell me, My system is decent but not badass, but I feel like it should be able to run this no problem, and the 10 to 15 minutes of gameplay I do have I'm running around 20 or so FPS average, spiking around 30, so I feel like its not my computer.

Could be wrong tho.

Please, any help is appreciated, I'm sick and tired of trying to get this to work all on my own, so I turn to you, people with vastly more modding experince and time than I have.

[Lost2270]

Additional Information.

 

My crashs are most aparent on the road from Chorrol to Bruma, or when trapsing around the wilderness. I thought maybe it was UL, but I've downloaded all the compatiablity patchs that I think I need, So I'm unsure if its that.

 

I have heap management turned on in OSR, Which I do belive should help, and quiet feet turned on in the tweak section. Seriously, I'm not sure what other additional information I can give to help anyone solve this problem, as I have only a limited and beginners knowladge of modding :sad:

 

Any response or help at all will be appreciated, compatiblities I missed or Mods that dont work correctly, anything.

[lubronbrons]

me too, happen to have hard times making oblivion... now many problem answered after constant googling

now I am tried to help a little

in your load order

16 Crowded Cities 15.esp

17 Crowded Cities 30.esp

you must choose one of this I think don't stack it,

other than that. about your crashing issue. maybe this is about bad missing texture ctd?

because I had this issue, now its all good after hard work and install from scratch then carefully arrange it one by one. manager used OBMM + Wrye bash + Mod Organizer

Edited November 15, 2015 by lubronbrons

[Dragon32]

Pretty sure you shouldn't be running both of these:

2B Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2C Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]

 

But Oblivion's really hard when it comes to troublshooting crashes.

 

Looks like you're using BOSS, so that's cool.

 

A lot of your mods I don't know or recognise. I'd suggest (re-)reading readmes to ensure things like the two MMM ESPs aren't happening. If you're no closer to identifying the culprit then a binary search (information for Morrowind but applies to Oblivion just as well) is your best bet.

 

And lastly, WTF dude? How many threads do you need?

Edited November 15, 2015 by Dragon32

[Lost2270]

Aha, yeah, wasnt sure where to put this, So i just posted in all relevent sections.

 

I had thought I'd disabled MMM.esp, but it apears i missed that, so I will indeed disable that and see if that fixes the problem. Regardless, I appreciate the help that you've given.

 

I have crowded cities 15 turned off, but not removed from my load order, should I follow up and do that? I'm not sure if it'll matter.

 

And holy crap, I'd been hoping to avoid checking my mods one at a time, but a binary search is a great answer to that problem. If the problem presists, I'll try that.

 

In the meantime, anyone with any additional information, any help would be appreciated.

 

I'm only about three weeks deep in the modding scene, and learning by trail and error is frustrating, so let me know if anyone out their has more information.

 

As a last restort, I'll try uninstalling everything and reinstalling my mods in the proper order, but I'd rather avoid that as it takes a few hours.

[lubronbrons]

if you using Wrye bash with 'auto ghost' turned on, it will not matter.

Oblivion tend to load inactive esp that will cause problems sometimes,

so with help of auto-ghost from wrye bash the .esp extension become .ghost

the mod will remain inactive in mod list till you turn in on again

IMHO, after much hassle re-install everything... experience and insight will go up drastically

because become mod detective is stress and time consuming

finally, when its all good and done... the paid off is great escape fantasy with hard earned work