I won't d/l Visual mods without before/after screens.

[Deighvyd]

More of a personal statement/request of sorts to mod authors out there...

If you've made a visual mod without any before and after screens, I've personally never downloaded or installed it. I think seeing the difference is very important and given the shear volume of mods to view, I'd prefer to not waste my time "checking" things out. Authors should be giving us before and after screens of this sort of stuff (and many other types of mods also... not enough before/after shots in general).

Have an opinion? Want to sympathize or cry entitlement? (That's assuming you have no clue what entitlement is... /snicker). So, please share your thoughts. :smile:

 

Edit: they obviously don't ALL need to be before/after shots... just give us a few good ones please.

Edited November 20, 2015 by Deighvyd

[Uzibeatle]

I tend to ignore texture mods without before and after pics as well.

Especially in cases where I am not already well familiar with the in game default version.

 

Mod authors who assume everyone knows what default texture looks like might consider that people just don't know already

or they don't recall.

It is just good advertising to compare ones awesome work to what the developers did.

 

Another gripe I have with a number of modders that publish pics are the ones that post pics of their work in the DARK or

poorly lit environment. WTF is that. If you want to go all moody and artsy, go ahead but at least a few pics of what

that work looks like in a well lit environment.

Again, if I can't make it out in the demo pics, I don't bother downloading usually.

 

P.S. I'm pissing in the wind but I do that all the time anyway.

[jet4571]

Showing screenshots of mods with ENB up the wazoo drives me bugspit crazy. How am I supposed to know if the armor looks good when its double the saturation or foliage texture mods with half the screenshot blurred out except for one bush.

 

Before and after isn't a big gripe to me, it's not what it used to look like that matters, it is "does it look good" that matters to me.

[Dhegonus]

Just because you may or may not like something, doesn't mean it should or shouldn't be law. Just means you are picky to an extent. If there is a extremely high download and endorsement rating on the file. The file is fantastic, the proof is there in the statistics - irrelevant on your views if a mere before screenshot is present or not. Just means you are missing out due to some misguided high ground.

 

Numbers don't lie.

 

But all in all, it matters little. The many always take precedence over the few.

[Deighvyd]

Just because you may or may not like something, doesn't mean it should or shouldn't be law. Just means you are picky to an extent. If there is a extremely high download and endorsement rating on the file. The file is fantastic, the proof is there in the statistics - irrelevant on your views if a mere before screenshot is present or not. Just means you are missing out due to some misguided high ground.

 

Numbers don't lie.

 

But all in all, it matters little. The many always take precedence over the few.

We're talking about subjective views of art. In that context, all numbers can tell us is it's popular. The numbers don't "prove" that "I" will like the mod... just that's there is "something" inherently popular about it... that's all, nothing more.

 

Yeah.. sure.. if most other folks like it, I might also like it... but that's no guarantee, versus the minimal effort it takes an author to makes these types of screens, versus all the combined time/bandwidth wasted by folks who d/l it but don't end up using it.

 

As was mentioned in other posts in this thread, not all of us are familiar with the default quality. A before/after screen gives an efficient and quick way of making a choice based on our own aesthetic values. We can then see at a glance how any mod changes from default.

 

As for missing out based on high-ground? I don't get what you think is high-ground? You don't view this "preference" or "request" as entitlement do you? Nope... no expectations or demands here. Just desire. If you meant something else, I don't understand.

 

(Edit: I think I realized you said that because you think I ignore mods without before/after out of contempt. I don't. I do it because, personally, I'm OCD about my use of time and efficiency in general. Hope that helps.) :smile:

 

(Edit: to many edits... I suck. :sad: )

Edited November 21, 2015 by Deighvyd

[Emonquente]

I don't usually grab mods without a before and after -- nothing personal or ethical in it, it's just I usually look at a huge list of texture mods at once and no direct comparison can make it hard to pick.

 

On the other hand, if I'm looking for something specific, chances are that the deafult specifically bugs me, or is underwhelming enough at least that I know exactly what it looks like and want to change it -- a comparison shot is uneccessary as long as an 'after' shot is available. . .preferably a natural-play one, but I understand the artistic need to show off your work in the best possible way, so it's not much of an issue if the only screenshot is something that doesn't even look like it could have come from the game.

 

The only time I'm ever actually annoyed with a mod/modder is when it is missing screens (for something that visuals are the point), a quick YT vid with the sound-clip (for sound-replacers), or any kind of description at all (for literally any mod, yet this still happens). The first two can be gotten around, there's usually a YT clip somewhere even just hours after a mod is made -- but no description is just tacky.