Re-endorse

[Deleted3619564User]

You should add the way to endorse again for new releases of a mod and create a link under the written "ENDORSEMENTS" (something like "details") or replace the actual link with a sub-section with the endorses for each release. Eventually a user could endorse only a "max value" of releases.

Edited November 24, 2015 by Guest

[Deleted1205226User]

Then we'll have people creating series of "new releases" with very small changes just to collect endorsements.

[PrimalSavage]

1. The possibility to re-endorse a Mod after a year if a new version has been uploaded could be a good thing. Would reward continuous development/support. You could also have said information in the endorsement details (written as "number of +2 endorsers", +3, +4, etc.).

 

2. A second proposition would be to automatically endorse a Mod when a user has downloaded many different versions of said Mod (Say, after the fifth iteration/download). At some point, if someone keeps downloading the same Mod (new version(s)), then endorsement should be presumed/inferred (still removable by the user). Could have an opt-out checkbox (to automatic endorsement after 5th version download) in user options.

[Deleted1205226User]

I would suggest to change the "Endorse" label into a "Thanks" label.

Because it is nothing else than a button for the user to express him/herself positively if they don't want to comment or in addition to their comments.

 

Who would race, compete, beg for a thanks as Modder?

Who would bargain a thanks as user?

Edited November 25, 2015 by Guest

[MotoSxorpio]

Then we'll have people creating series of "new releases" with very small changes just to collect endorsements.

This.

[DrakeTheDragon]

I would suggest to change the "Endorse" label into a "Thanks" label.

Because it is nothing else than a button for the user to express him/herself positively if they don't want to comment or in addition to their comments.

 

Who would race, compete, beg for a thanks as Modder?

Who would bargain a thanks as user?

This is a rhetorical question, right? :ermm: I mean, they never actually cared about the label, they always only gamed the system for the numbers.

[Deleted1205226User]

 

I would suggest to change the "Endorse" label into a "Thanks" label.

Because it is nothing else than a button for the user to express him/herself positively if they don't want to comment or in addition to their comments.

 

Who would race, compete, beg for a thanks as Modder?

Who would bargain a thanks as user?

This is a rhetorical question, right? :ermm: I mean, they never actually cared about the label, they always only gamed the system for the numbers.

 

I'm not sure that the label doesn't matter. At least it did for me, coming from modding Sim2 on ModTheSims (the largest site for that game) where the button is labeled "Thanks", it took me a little time to understand what was meant by endorsing. (English is not first language).

 

During the 5 years I was active there and 1492 comment on my threads, I've never encounter any bargain or menace about Thanks. Nor did I saw one on another thread.

 

But, of course, comparison is no reason.

[JimboUK]

1. The possibility to re-endorse a Mod after a year if a new version has been uploaded could be a good thing. Would reward continuous development/support. You could also have said information in the endorsement details (written as "number of +2 endorsers", +3, +4, etc.).

 

2. A second proposition would be to automatically endorse a Mod when a user has downloaded many different versions of said Mod (Say, after the fifth iteration/download). At some point, if someone keeps downloading the same Mod (new version(s)), then endorsement should be presumed/inferred (still removable by the user). Could have an opt-out checkbox (to automatic endorsement after 5th version download) in user options.

 

What if that 5th version is broken? it's not unknown for modders to keep tinkering until they break everything. I can think of several once good mods that are now broken because the modder didn't know when to stop.

[PrimalSavage]

 

1. The possibility to re-endorse a Mod after a year if a new version has been uploaded could be a good thing. Would reward continuous development/support. You could also have said information in the endorsement details (written as "number of +2 endorsers", +3, +4, etc.).

 

2. A second proposition would be to automatically endorse a Mod when a user has downloaded many different versions of said Mod (Say, after the fifth iteration/download). At some point, if someone keeps downloading the same Mod (new version(s)), then endorsement should be presumed/inferred (still removable by the user). Could have an opt-out checkbox (to automatic endorsement after 5th version download) in user options.

 

What if that 5th version is broken? it's not unknown for modders to keep tinkering until they break everything. I can think of several once good mods that are now broken because the modder didn't know when to stop.

 

 

You make a valid point, but I believe this isn't any different than having endorsed the first iteration only to see the second, third, etc. iteration break the mod. Most users won't come back and remove their endorsements for various reasons. Most users will also not remove an endorsement when a Mod hasn't been updated for a long time and no longer works with the new/patched game version. As to the fifth downloaded iteration (not the fifth iteration per se though in some cases that may be) by one user (or any reasonable number decided by management really), it would only be the turning point where endorsement is added automatically (but can be removed by said user).

 

I think whether modders (and users) like it or not, there is probably a correlation between endorsements and downloads. As with everything, the early adopters (or in this case, the early modders) generally have quite an advantage and there is a snowball effect where users download top ranked mods, endorse top rank mods, and generally end up reproducing some sort of pareto principle where the top 20% Mods end up with 80% of the endorsements. This generally stays true even if some Mods haven't been updated for months (years). The proposition 1. and 2. would help both newcomers and those who've kept working on their mod overcome such situation.

 

As to the label used (endorse) and as a modder, I agree w/ DrakeTheDragon that it probably doesn't matter. However, as a user of Mods, I think pixelhate may be on to something. +1/Like/Thanks are probably easier to give than endorsements, the latter being more intense, for lack of a better word.

[Oubliette]

Yes. Let's give people an added edge in gaming a system that's sooo tempting we've lost several prominent modders over the years because they just couldn't resist the urge to create multiple dummy accounts to endorse their own mods repeatedly. Sounds like an awesome idea. Let's do that :no: