sherameyn Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 [...] heavily controlled by opinion [...] That is one of the main problems. What does shooting babies as atom-bombs okay, but killing children is not? It has to be white & black, a grey/shadow area is, as zaty said, too heavily controlled by opinion and then we will have Unicorn Meat in the grey section, because meat is offensive to vegans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoAltar Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Many times in life we are going to find various things offensive.What we have to remember is that being offended is not, in and of itself, harmful to us in any way. Different people will find different content objectionable for myriad personal reasons, but there is no universal qualifier for "offensive material."Nexus is pretty clear on what it does and does not allow and I trust the Users to report things and the Moderators to make the appropriate response. As adults, we have the option to ignore content, block authors, and be on our merry way. As I said, we cannot go through life expecting not to be offended, and I find there is a tendency for people to over-react nowadays when they find that they are.If somebody posts a mod called "Rape that *censored* Piper," I would find it unnecessary, in poor taste, and yes, offensive. BUT, if it is in the realm of what Nexus deems appropriate content, I would do what I mentioned above: I would block the author whose point of view I am not interested in, then move on- neither creating drama nor attempting to protect others from having their sensibilities damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaty1 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 @sherameyn - Actually I was using the rainbows - but knowing my wife's friends... meat definitely is offensive too... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempwayne Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) What makes slavery being "debatable" and "not hurting anyone"?I mean, why doesn't it fall under the 2nd category? Are you the master or the slave? I never said that slavery in real life is "not hurting anyone". Please refrain from posting political/bait comments. It is clear from what I've said everywhere that I mean "some people may not be offended by the presence of slavery in mods in video games, while others will". If you did understand what I meant(slavery in mods in video games may not be offensive to some, but is offensive to the rest), then you(when contrasted with others who think that slavery in video games is just slavery in video games) just proved my point. How do you define "considerable debate" then? How long til, hypothetically, someone "takes offense" to http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2355/? and starts a crusade to have it pulled?Tongue-in-cheek here, obviously - but what about actual hard feelings between authors of various "gray area" mods? What qualifies?Why add yet another section heavily controlled by opinion that the moderaters have to dance about dealing with? Why do I have to knowingly open an "offensive" catagory to look at stuff? Can I be offended that my opinion is catagorized as offensive?Goodluck with this, I do truly hope some kind of solution can be found. Til then, I'll keep blocking authors. :smile: In your first paragraph, you appear to be arguing against taking down mods in itself. That is not what I'm arguing for/against. I hope that you know that presently, when the moderators deem a mod to be very offensive, they take the mod down. All the problems that you've suggested here are those faced by moderators when they receive reports from an "offensive" mod. Tagging a set of mods as being offensive is a positive attempt at warning people that they are going to be looking at content that MAY BE offensive to them, depending on who they are, and what they believe. As for why you want to knowingly open an "offensive" category to look at stuff, it's simply because you accept that you are ready to face content that MIGHT hurt your feelings, and want to see a greater selection of mods. Can you be offended that your opinion is categ. as offensive? Well, you chose to look in the "potentially offensive" section, which means that you were ready to face a possible realization that your opinion has been categorized as "offensive". It's like schrodinger's cat you see, as long as you don't open the box, you don't know whether your opinion is categorized as offensive or not. So, if you feel that you might feel offended that your opinion is perceived as offensive, don't open the "potentially offensive" section? Please, let's not speak of hyperboles like "what if my opinion being offensive is offensive to me"? Such things are important when you draft a nation's constitution, but here, we are trusting people to have some level of goodwill, and are attempting to make the community better for everyone but streamlining content. Edited November 28, 2015 by tempwayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherameyn Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Hah, I just know vegans that would consider this offensive, even if it makes no sense. For us. I am sure they could come up with plenty of reasons. And yes EgoAltar, being offended is entirely personal. With that though, you can justify a lot.It's why those "Social Justice Warriors" are so over-representative at this moment. I trust the Nexusmods team, and that's why I am most definitely against an "offensive" section. @tempwayne: That wasn't meant as a bait comment, but was meant to show what makes something offensive or not. I am sorry if I offended you :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempwayne Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) @sherameyn: haha, guess we're all on edge. I do not propose the "offensive" tag to push a set of mods into a corner because they might hurt someone. I want such a tag because without it, the moderators will have to chose between "forcing" everyone to see it, and removing it altogether. Such a tag will help more mods stay on the site, I guess. It's akin to the "adult" section(which is rather clearly defined), which helps users who want to access such content to get them, and others who wish to stay away from them to do so. Again, the final say on whether a mod gets the "offensive" tag rests with the moderators, just like presently whether a mod gets taken down is. Edited November 28, 2015 by tempwayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinraStrife Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 My thread lock senses are tingling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempwayne Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 Most people have stayed away from discussing politics or abusing each other. Thread locking now would be an unfortunate event, since we all seem to be having a nice, relevant discussion like educated Englishmen/women. :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinraStrife Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Most people have stayed away from discussing politics or abusing each other. Thread locking now would be an unfortunate event, since we all seem to be having a nice, relevant discussion like educated Englishmen/women. :blush: True. But you just get that feeling sometimes. Ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Everyone is offended by something. I am offended that you are offended by whatever it was that offended you but didn't offend me. :whistling: Not everyone is offended by the same things. And being offended is a personal emotion. Some people have thicker skins, some cannot stand it that some things even exist in an imaginary world where they don't have to even use whatever it was that offended them. Some other examples that you probably never thought about as offensive that some people seem to be highly offended by is the existence of My Little Pony mods in Fallout or Skyrim. Believe me there are people who are just as adamant that these ( and some others that most would consider inoffensive) should not be allowed to exist and are offended by their very existence. :rolleyes: Now where do you draw the line? :facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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