Sanctuary happiness loop...

[Justy311]

I'm not sure what's going on here or if there is some kind of bug or something... But I have 15 settlers in Sanctuary right now.

 

I have 6 level 3 stores, one of each type. Located in an enclosed building to protect them from rain etc. (Not that I think that really matters but I did it just in case.)

 

I have 30 food, Mutfruit mostly but also some corn and melons.

 

I have 66 water, mostly in the form of purifiers out in the nearby water but a few water pumps near each house too.

 

I have 28 beds, a few in custom created buildings so I know the have a floor and a roof while the rest are in the original buildings (which should be fine.)

 

I have 110 defense, quite a few non-powered turrets and a few missile launching turrets.

 

I have 1 supply line running out of Sanctuary and 3 running into Sanctuary.

 

I have 50 power, though power is said to have no effect on happiness.

 

 

My happiness reaches 88, and then declines back down to 78. Over and over in a loop and I have no idea why. By everything I've seen in the game and even some things I've read here and there while experiencing this problem... I should have no problem getting to 100 happiness. Everything is in over abundance. These bastards want for nothing... so does anyone have any idea why it's stuck in this loop or anything I should do to break it?

[Puddycat]

Same here, mine bounces from 84 to 83 constantly

Although, now you've mentioned stores i think that might be my problem cause they're only level 2. So does the level 3 one give more happiness?

 

For you though....what is your charisma at? I think that contributes also to happiness doesn't it? I'm not possitive though, just seem to remember reading that somewhere

 

Edit: Oh the reason for Charisma is because it is 'apparently' easier for it to get to 100% when you have more settlers. Maximum is 21 i believe? So maybe get more peeps

Edited November 29, 2015 by Puddycat

[ElliotSternberg]

Same here, mine bounces from 84 to 83 constantly

Although, now you've mentioned stores i think that might be my problem cause they're only level 2. So does the level 3 one give more happiness?

 

For you though....what is your charisma at? I think that contributes also to happiness doesn't it? I'm not possitive though, just seem to remember reading that somewhere

 

Edit: Oh the reason for Charisma is because it is 'apparently' easier for it to get to 100% when you have more settlers. Maximum is 21 i believe? So maybe get more peeps

 

I've got 31 (or more, havn't checked in a bit.) settlers in the farm co-op. This is unmodded. I've also got 26 in sanctuary (though it says 21 very often when I look at it, but sometimes also 51 or random numbers.) 24 in abernathy farm, grey garden and more.

 

Randomly the game decides there aren't enough beds there and happyness starts dropping till I go there and open the workshop menu. Then it realizes it has enough and claims to start going up. (I'll look and it will randomly say ith as 2 when I'm out, then back to 38 when I get back.)

 

Pretty sure we're going to need to wait for a official patch to get some of these issues fixed. Seems like typical bethesda coding to me.

[Justy311]

From what I've heard having at least one level 3 store helps increase happiness. So you could try that and see if it'll help get your happiness up higher.

 

As for me...

 

I'm level 50 and my Charisma is at 10, I haven't found the bobble head yet. (which will set it to 11)

 

Maybe I need to just put the other 5 there? People have stopped coming to the beacon... but I have other settlements where I can send people there. I've also made sure to pull all my companions out of Sanctuary just to be sure.

 

Mama Murphy is still there too, not sure if she's causing issues or not.

 

 

 

 

As for Elliot,

 

It's a known issue that if you don't return to the settlement regularly that the game gets confused. Sometimes it'll say you have 0 settlers, sometimes the beds will not register, etc. Just go to your settlement regularly (Like every 2 or 3 days in game if you can) so it doesn't mess up and it should help you increase your happiness. I'm not sure how you have 31 settlers... unless your companions are there also. As they have no effect on the happiness/cap (I think), even though they can help do work. 11 the cap for 'base charisma' and of course you can increase it a bit with gear... but 31 does seem a little high. XD

[Deleted3821260User]

I have the same problem as well. Can't figure it out

[Vagrant0]

It's a known issue that if you don't return to the settlement regularly that the game gets confused. Sometimes it'll say you have 0 settlers, sometimes the beds will not register, etc. Just go to your settlement regularly (Like every 2 or 3 days in game if you can) so it doesn't mess up and it should help you increase your happiness. I'm not sure how you have 31 settlers... unless your companions are there also. As they have no effect on the happiness/cap (I think), even though they can help do work. 11 the cap for 'base charisma' and of course you can increase it a bit with gear... but 31 does seem a little high. XD

The settlement data bug is frequent and random. It seems to affect everything from settler amounts to actual happiness. Visiting will set it to the right amounts, but as soon as you go farther away it bugs out again. Once bugged, I havn't been able to figure out a way to make the settlement not bugged.

[Justy311]

 

It's a known issue that if you don't return to the settlement regularly that the game gets confused. Sometimes it'll say you have 0 settlers, sometimes the beds will not register, etc. Just go to your settlement regularly (Like every 2 or 3 days in game if you can) so it doesn't mess up and it should help you increase your happiness. I'm not sure how you have 31 settlers... unless your companions are there also. As they have no effect on the happiness/cap (I think), even though they can help do work. 11 the cap for 'base charisma' and of course you can increase it a bit with gear... but 31 does seem a little high. XD

The settlement data bug is frequent and random. It seems to affect everything from settler amounts to actual happiness. Visiting will set it to the right amounts, but as soon as you go farther away it bugs out again. Once bugged, I havn't been able to figure out a way to make the settlement not bugged.

 

 

Yeah. I read that and as such I've been sitting in Sanctuary for a while. It hits 88 and then starts to decline again even while I'm standing there in the town. I just don't get it... It's such a pain. Maybe I'll try to focus on The Castle or something to get the achievement.

[Vagrant0]

Yeah. I read that and as such I've been sitting in Sanctuary for a while. It hits 88 and then starts to decline again even while I'm standing there in the town. I just don't get it... It's such a pain. Maybe I'll try to focus on The Castle or something to get the achievement.

 

I wouldn't get too bothered by the actual value too much tbh. Happiness only relates to how much food, water, and junk gets accumulated in a settlement over time, and even then it is fairly slow unless you have most your settlements linked to share resources. I'd say that anything above 60 is perfectly fine, have not seen it play any part in how quickly a settlement grows, or how frequent attacks on a settlement might be.

[Justy311]

Yeah. I wouldn't care... but I'm trying to get the achievement. Logically I should have everything high enough that it climbs to the 100 point, but it just keeps looping. I've got plenty of other 'small' settlements that are around and stay around 80... Sanctuary is what I've built up to go for the Benevolent Leader achievement and it's driving me crazy.

[CaarosKingOfChaos]

Hy happiness in Sanctuary can't go past 80 because every other day someone gets kidnapped. Who the heck keeps letting the raiders and super mutants in and doesn't noticing them leaving with someone knocked out in a bag anyway? I am going to drag their arse into the glowing sea when I figure out who it is.