Marcus Wolfe Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Yeah, Naruto is better all the way, in every way. Just put this out there to see if everyone agrees with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark0ne Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Where's the "they're both terrible" option? Seriously...move on to something that atleast has substance; minimally Gundam or Full Metal Alchemist! For the love of god have some respect man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Where's the "they're both terrible" option? Seriously...move on to something that atleast has substance; minimally Gundam or Full Metal Alchemist! For the love of god have some respect man!Wanting substance in one of these series vs series thingies... It just doesn't work. Different physics, different power bases. In addition, those who normally participate in these things are normally strong fans of one series, so will naturally want their guys to win and come up with any crazy reason why. That said, despite the fact that DBZ is a series which lacks any value beyond flashing lights (which lose their value quickly), the characters in the series would be able to kill anyone who exists as a physical entity (and sometimes even if they don). This isn't due to anything other than the fact that the series kept building up their powerlevels to excessive limits to try and keep the drooling public interested. This meant nearly godlike beings who could destroy planets on whim. Naruto is slowly following suit... If it wasn't for a few hundred episodes where nothing happened it would probably be there now. Or are we going by the American releases, in which case, fear the pain and agony that is Naruto fillers. Atleast DBZ had the balls to make you sit there with 3 episodes of solid dialogue and grunting whenever a major battle happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark0ne Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 3 episodes? Aren't you being a bit generous there? IIRC when I was 14 they were playing the something saga...the one with the guy who transformed like 4 times and got more powerful until he had a purple head. IIRC that fight (oh I remember, it was the one where Goku turns into a Super Saiyan or something for the first time) lasted about 25 episodes. Non stop "whos" and "hahs" with flashing lights and blurs that represented arm movement. It was about that point that I put DBZ lower than Pokemon for the sole reason the Pokemon games were actually entertaining. Now I'm 20 and still enjoy the odd childish anime; just finished Full Metal Panic! and quite enjoyed it, but I'll never touch DBZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 3 episodes? Aren't you being a bit generous there? IIRC when I was 14 they were playing the something saga...the one with the guy who transformed like 4 times and got more powerful until he had a purple head. IIRC that fight (oh I remember, it was the one where Goku turns into a Super Saiyan or something for the first time) lasted about 25 episodes. Non stop "whos" and "hahs" with flashing lights and blurs that represented arm movement. It was about that point that I put DBZ lower than Pokemon for the sole reason the Pokemon games were actually entertaining. Now I'm 20 and still enjoy the odd childish anime; just finished Full Metal Panic! and quite enjoyed it, but I'll never touch DBZ.Yeah, was being generous simply so that I could apply it to every major fight, instead of one that was unnnecessarily long... But in all fairness, almost every action anime geared toward young children eventually falls into those 2-3 episode long battles, probably why Japan has fewer instances of ADD, their kids have to remember what happened last week, our kids watch things where the whole story is told in 5-10 minutes and there isn't any longterm advancement. Seriously, compare older scooby-doo episodes to newer ones... what was an hour long cartoon (45 after commercials) with one case per show, is now 30 minutes (22 after commercials) but, you have 2 seperate cases within each show. Seriously, you can't evn get high while watching Scooby-Doo any more, by the time you figure out who did it in the first episode, they're already pulling the mask off the guy in the next and you're like "WTF is that?". And we all know what that mind blowing confusion is like... Right? Kinda lost track there... Anyhow, the reason why Naruto has a bit more character development is because it's geared toward that 12-14 year old range, while DB, DBZ, DBZGT is geared toward younger children. Therefore it's not really a fair fight. Really, most anime (except hentai) is geared toward people under 18, (in the case of hentai it's geared toward perverts of any age). Only a few series have exception to this, Ghost in The Shell being one due to its sophistication, Samurai 7 being another due to being based on a classical work. That said, just because anime is geared toward children doesn't mean that it doesn't have value under the right light. Hell, even Pokemon can get pretty deep philosophically once you take the time to step back from the simplistic plot and really think about what the hell is going on. Too much free time, too little money, not lazy enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejake1453 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 they both suck! (to me) it's rare that i'll actually find an anime that i actually like, there has only been one that i absalutely love, that felt so real to me, and that is...................... SAMURI 7. i love it! best anime ever!. but for me back on topic: the guys from DBZ would prbably kill those from naruto because there like Uber powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Wolfe Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 Hmmm..... okay, maybe I Shoulda put dow some other animes as an option...like some of my favs, Full Metal Alchemistand Inuyasha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark0ne Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Is Samurai 7 the same as Rurouni Kenshin? And did you like Ghost in the Shell? I thought both the Ghost films tried too hard to be overly deep and philosphical (abit like that terrible meeting Neo has with the creator in the Matrix Reloaded) just to make a point that some anime isn't for the teens and younger. In the end it just read like one big Aristotle/Plato scripture and I felt highly unimpressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonlissla Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Is Samurai 7 the same as Rurouni Kenshin? No, it isn't. Samurai7 is a sort of science-fiction (yes, I know that Kenshin is the same, but it is based in the real world, wich Samurai7 isn't), blending both the samurai and mecha genres. And I must agree with thejake1453, it's one of the best anime that exists, having among the best storylines and animations I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Is Samurai 7 the same as Rurouni Kenshin? And did you like Ghost in the Shell? I thought both the Ghost films tried too hard to be overly deep and philosphical (abit like that terrible meeting Neo has with the creator in the Matrix Reloaded) just to make a point that some anime isn't for the teens and younger. In the end it just read like one big Aristotle/Plato scripture and I felt highly unimpressed.Watch the series, while it still maintains alot of the philosophic elements it does branch out to other areas a bit more. Although it really does just break down to creating a definition of humanity with a good dose of scifi and crime drama. To each their own I guess, not a big fan myself (I prefer more light hearted slice-o-life stuff with the occasional parody or social commentary), but I can wrap my head around why people are. Samurai 7 is a scifi adaptation of Seven Samurai, a novel which has also been the inspiration for several other works including the Magnificent Seven and Stephen King's The Dark Tower: Wolves of the Calla. Not a personal favorite, I think they distracted from the story too much with all the mecha and techno stuffs which only ends up feeding into thw whole "cutting through a building with a sword" stuff that makes you want to dismiss any of the value that may be gained early on. Rurouni Kenshin is a story of a wandering samurai with a violent past, amidst a world of change. It's still good in that it catches some of the feeling of that era and has a bit more depth to the characters and fights than most other action anime. It is however still action anime, so falls into the usual fight, talk, talk some more, fight some more, talk even more, routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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