DAI Mod Manager crashes during set up

[ahlewis32]

The DAI MM crashes every time I try to set up the path for the game executable file.

Steps I've taken so far:

-checked for game updates

-repaired the game (3x now)

-tried to remerge the mods with DAI MM: error message that MM has stopped functioning appeared when I tried to point the MM to the DAI executable file and it crashed

-downloaded a fresh copy of the MM and used it: still no joy and got the message and crash again.

*Please note that I always run the MM as administrator.

*I am able to start a new game and have the previous Patch/MM merge in but it isn't working. No mods are showing up in a new game.

+This started after I was forced to refresh my Windows 10 install after a blue screen error. Windows works fine now but even though DAI is installed on a side drive, it completely reinstalled itself. I've refreshed before and this never happened. Usually I just click install, it puts the right files on the drive and I'm good to go. The actual game isn't reinstalled since it already is.

+And until I was forced to refresh, I could change out mods easier than I could change my shoes.

So there you have it. I'm stuck. I've gone through every troubleshooting file I can find on the internet and nothing works. So I'm asking you all since you've helped me before. I'm willing to provide any computer stats you need. Any ideas?

[Aintiarna]

I am able to start a new game and have the previous Patch/MM merge in but it isn't working. No mods are showing up in a new game.

If I had to guess given the sequence of events, I'd say you have one of three problems:

 

1. The old Patch_ModManagerMerge is corrupt and causing MM to crash on startup. Move it somewhere else/delete it since it clearly isn't working anyway.

2. You have a damaged mod in your mod directory. MM looks their and caches them immediately after locating the DAI exe and will crash if one of them is faulty or there is a problem with the directory. (you moved it or something after the windows crash). If need be, back up and then delete the entire directory and restore one mod at a time.

3. Less likely given what you've said, but it will also crash if you picked the 32bit version to install from DAITools instead of the 64bit version of MM for windows 10.

 

All of this is assuming you've done the usual troubleshooting stuff of course.

[ahlewis32]

 

I am able to start a new game and have the previous Patch/MM merge in but it isn't working. No mods are showing up in a new game.

If I had to guess given the sequence of events, I'd say you have one of three problems:

 

1. The old Patch_ModManagerMerge is corrupt and causing MM to crash on startup. Move it somewhere else/delete it since it clearly isn't working anyway.

2. You have a damaged mod in your mod directory. MM looks their and caches them immediately after locating the DAI exe and will crash if one of them is faulty or there is a problem with the directory. (you moved it or something after the windows crash). If need be, back up and then delete the entire directory and restore one mod at a time.

3. Less likely given what you've said, but it will also crash if you picked the 32bit version to install from DAITools instead of the 64bit version of MM for windows 10.

 

All of this is assuming you've done the usual troubleshooting stuff of course.

 

Thanks so much Tirnoney! Finally something new!

 

Unfortunately I can't get past assigning the path for the game executable file so I don't think mods are an issue. The MM crashes every time I select the DAI game file and press ok.

I downloaded a new version of MM and trashed the old; it's a 64 bit version run as an admin with no joy there either.

So I'm still stuck. It's just so confusing since I played the game this morning and now I can't. I've downloaded nothing and can't find any evidence that anything changed on the system. There are no viruses or malware that I can tell and scans are clear. I can still play vanilla so I guess I'm stuck there.

 

FYI: 5 of the mods I use are yours and I've used 3 others of yours that aren't in there right now. Love your work! Thanks for the help!

[Aintiarna]

Alright then, the next thing to try since you've had to refresh windows is your .NET framework. Mod Manager can be twitchy about the version you're using. Trying downloading and installing version 4.5.x from Microsoft, then running Mod Manager again. You can go to control panel and see what version you have first and make sure you're installing a different version first. I think the standard version for windows 10 is 4.6.x.

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42643

Edited January 16, 2016 by tirnoney

[ahlewis32]

Alright then, the next thing to try since you've had to refresh windows is your .NET framework. Mod Manager can be twitchy about the version you're using. Trying downloading and installing version 4.5.x from Microsoft, then running Mod Manager again. You can go to control panel and see what version you have first and make sure you're installing a different version first. I think the standard version for windows 10 is 4.6.x.

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42643

 

I checked my version through regedit and it's up to date as is the net framework. When I tried downloading fresh installs, I got the message that I had the newest version and Windows refused to install them. I'm really stuck here. I may have to refresh windows since that's the only cure I can find that might work. Perhaps I got a bad install. I'll do some file checks and see what I can find out.

 

Here's my current computer report. Perhaps you can see if there's anything wrong.

 

Computer report

[Aintiarna]

Well, if you're _absolutely_ sure you have 4.5.x version of .NET installed and not just 4.6.x (you need both) then I'm all out of ideas.

 

You can't do it via windows though, you'll have to do a manual install as it will assume you want the latest version and not 4.5.x

 

It's been a while since I had to install 4.5.x though so I'm not sure the exact procedure for circumventing windows update, but it's doable. The important thing is making sure Mod Manager can call 4.5.x .NET system calls instead of 4.6.x The error messages are not all that helpful unfortunately. They're basically saying "really low level bad stuff is happening" ;)

[Aintiarna]

Oh, one other thing. Is your dragon age .exe in a standard place or somewhere weird, because that can cause problems sometime. The error being thrown can sometimes relate to I/O problems, but I didn't think of it since you say it was all working before.

 

But seriously, getting .NET 4.5.x on your system is your best bet for fixing this however you achieve that goal! ;)

Edited January 16, 2016 by tirnoney

[Thandal]

Hmmmm...

 

I'm running the DAI MM under Win10 with only the following .NET versions installed: 4.0.40804.0 and 1.1.4322.

 

Here's how you can check what's on your own rig from the command prompt ("Run as administrator", of course):

C:\WINDOWS\system32>wmic /namespace:\\root\cimv2 path win32_product where "name like '%%.NET%%'" get version

When I checked, this is what I got:

C:\WINDOWS\system32>wmic /namespace:\\root\cimv2 path win32_product where "name like '%%.NET%%'" get version

Version
4.0.40804.0
1.1.4322

 

 

So... Not sure .NET 4.5.x is required. :huh:

 

But here's the link to full "Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5"

 

[EDIT: Noticed I also have the "Microsoft ASP.NET MVC 4 Runtime" application installed. Don't know if that's relevant. :cool: )

Edited January 16, 2016 by Thandal
Additional information.

[ahlewis32]

Oh, one other thing. Is your dragon age .exe in a standard place or somewhere weird, because that can cause problems sometime. The error being thrown can sometimes relate to I/O problems, but I didn't think of it since you say it was all working before.

 

But seriously, getting .NET 4.5.x on your system is your best bet for fixing this however you achieve that goal! :wink:

 

I have DAI installed on a separate drive and have since I first downloaded it in Nov of 2014. I've played it with no problems until now.

 

I ran the SFC /checknow to check Windows integrity and errors appeared. Running the Dism protocol with restore health fixed some errors. Running another SFC scan pulled up errors again so either they didn't fix or there are new ones. MM still crashes when I select the executable file so whatever it fixed wasn't the problem.

 

Hmmmm...

 

I'm running the DAI MM under Win10 with only the following .NET versions installed: 4.0.40804.0 and 1.1.4322.

 

Here's how you can check what's on your own rig from the command prompt ("Run as administrator", of course):

C:\WINDOWS\system32>wmic /namespace:\\root\cimv2 path win32_product where "name like '%%.NET%%'" get version

When I checked, this is what I got:

C:\WINDOWS\system32>wmic /namespace:\\root\cimv2 path win32_product where "name like '%%.NET%%'" get version

Version

4.0.40804.0

1.1.4322

 

 

So... Not sure .NET 4.5.x is required. :huh:

 

But here's the link to full "Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5"

 

[EDIT: Noticed I also have the "Microsoft ASP.NET MVC 4 Runtime" application installed. Don't know if that's relevant. :cool: )

 

 

Thandal: I ran that system 32 scan and the results said "No Instances Available." I suppose that means I don't have NET 4.5 installed but checking the registry says I do. I have officially entered the Twilight Zone now. UGH! It all points to a damaged Windows install so I'll reinstall. Again.

 

Thanks for all your help. I was hoping I'd catch Thandal trolling since you've helped me before both here and at EA. Tirnoney, you are super and I love your mods when I can use them.

 

Stay tuned for more. I'll be back with an update....

[Aintiarna]

Just to clarify to both of you. .NET 4.5 is not required. A version of .NET older than 4.6 is required. Is that clearer? It's just that getting anything older than 4.5 on windows 10 is rather difficult now.