Gilibran Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 So on a new playthrough i decided to play like a low intelligence character, a true idiot savant :-) I went straight into the commonwealth exploring this wonderfull bright new world, helping and building settlements along the way and whatever quest came up. Skipping Sanctuary, Red Rocket, Concorde making my way to Diamond city exploring. Quests kickoff when you reach diamond city and did all the quests from there that lead up to entering the institute. I only used the railroad to get the courser chip data and only then went to the minutemen to build the teleporter. Got into the institute walked around and then shot everyone inside. Fought tons of synths and made my way out back to the minutemen. Talked to Preston, got the topic about Independence but i already cleared that long ago, but no problem, meet him there and build the generator, quest completed. Now though, Ronnie Shaw does not show up, i have been waiting for days, done tons of Prestons settlements quest but no Ronnie and start of Old Guns. Yes i did give sturges the tape. So basicaly i'm stuck lol cannot even console complete the quests or advance them. Stuck in forming ranks quest and repeating radiant settlement quests now like a real idiot lol. I'm not sure where it went wrong, but obvious somewhere along the line something went terribly wrong. In another playthrough i did do the first couple of mainquests, went with the railroad to enter the institute, killed father as soon as he walked through the door, even used console to open the inaccesible doors, killed everyone inside i could find, looted the place clean, left and joined the minutemen and all was fine from there. I suspect something is triggered when doing the first quests, visit home, Talk to Codsworth, go to Concorde, help Preston, kill the deathclaw and watch them leave for sanctuary. That's the only reason i can think off where things went wrong this time. I searched but have not found a similar problem yet. Doubt at this moment it is caused by a mod. Anyone else encountered problems? I thought i share to make people aware skipping the start might cause problems along the way as far as i'm able to reconstruct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeesmies Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I had a problem once when I got the quest to find emogene. I went to find her at the beach where she is supposed to be but she wasn't there or anywhere else, the marker moved itself after that to her bedroom in the cabot house and emogene was virtually gone from the game forever. It could've been because of I didn't go ask for her in the third rail first, but I'll never know for sure. Even loading a previous save and starting the whole chain again and visiting third rail before beach didn't work. She was gone! I had to start the game from beginning to reset this malfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boombro Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'm not sure where it went wrong, but obvious somewhere along the line something went terribly wrong. Got into the institute walked around and then shot everyone inside. killed father as soon as he walked through the door, even used console to open the inaccesible doors, killed everyone inside i could find, looted the place clean, left and joined the minutemen and all was fine from there.You were not supposed to kill everyone. You did not need to meet the MM, skip to DC. You just cut the main quest in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhartman9 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I also did a playthrough without the minutemen. I followed the railroad undercover quest until they told me it was time to kill everyone. The minutemen apparently had no impact on that outcome. The Castel is no good without them though I agree. You get a dirty ugly version of the castle, you cant get into the west bastion and there is no Ronnie Shaw. Ronnie is the only minuteman to have any useful purpose. unless you use Sturgis to build the teleporter. Either you get a nice clean Castle you cant stand to visit due to the deplorable radio station. Or you get a stone hole full of mirelurk muck. Taking the Castle solo is good fun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilibran Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm not sure where it went wrong, but obvious somewhere along the line something went terribly wrong. Got into the institute walked around and then shot everyone inside. killed father as soon as he walked through the door, even used console to open the inaccesible doors, killed everyone inside i could find, looted the place clean, left and joined the minutemen and all was fine from there. You were not supposed to kill everyone. You did not need to meet the MM, skip to DC.You just cut the main quest in half. Point 1 was a different character, i cheated on that one but had no problems afterwards with Ronnie Show not showing up, i did'nt skip any parts of the MQ on that one though. On this playthrough (where i went straight to Diamond City), i talked to father, got into the institute, talked to the scientists and then decided i wanted nothing to do with them and went on a killing spree and got out. Did the MM quests but Shaw does'nt turn up and i'm stuck doing radiant quests from Preston and "Forming Ranks" even though i have at least 15 settlements set up (already build long before i went with the MM) with enough beds, food, water, defense and radio beacons. Not sure if i did kill everyone in the institute might be a couple of essentials left. Basically i was trying to see what would happen, even went to get Nick before i went to diamond city to. So somewhere along the line something broke by not following the MQ from the start. Either by building alot of settlememts long before Preston starts asking, by killing everyone non essential inside the institute, clearing the castle before Preston asks or whatever. It's a shame because you should be able to do whatever you want in any order, skipping everything but the bare minimum such as finding Nick and the railroad for the courser chip data. Just warning others to be carefull and be aware something might break throwing tons of hours down the drain. Does'nt really matter i can continu doing what i want. Institute is dead and gone as far as i'm concerned. Railroad still asks me to join them, BoS is flying around and Danse is still outside the police station. Actually it's a rather save commonwealth apart from dumbass settlers who manage to get kidnapped out of fully enclosed settlements with 300+ defense everyone inside wearing fully upgraded sturdy or heavy armor, even power armor, fatmans, missile launchers, miniguns and modded combat rifles. I mean, i am starting to really doubt now, the institute is perhaps right, people in the commonwealth, especially the settlers, are a bunch of dumbasses not worth saving over and over again and perhaps it's indeed better to replace them all with synths ;-) Started over again, see if i can reproduce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuJooGuppy Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 ....Either you get a nice clean Castle you cant stand to visit due to the deplorable radio station. Or you get a stone hole .... You do know, you can turn the ambient radio off while in the castle, right? Down by the radio guy, there is a little switch for the radio station. Flip it off, no more noise. I cant recall if it doubles as a recruitment beacon or not, if it does you could flip it on when you leave or build a separate beacon. Either way, you can turn the thing off and not listen to that endlessly, lol. Thatd drive a man insane... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boombro Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 You broke your game twice already! You can't advance the MM because they are tided to the main quest line that you broke by killing everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilibran Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 No Boombro i only broke it once,i finished the game on the other playthrough with the minutemen ( where i did not skip any main quests in the beginning) where i shot father as soon as he entered and then used the console to unlock the doors and kill everyone inside while i wqs supossed to just run back to the teleporter, where you are told you just shot your son. I did get that line both times, so someone is still alive inside the institute ;-) On the last playthrough, the now broken one, i skipped half the main quest, did not use the console once, was cleared for the institute and only then killed everyone, so i broke it somehow without cheating and now cannot advance further lol That's the weird thing, i'd sooner expect using the console breaks stuff as usual then breaking it without using the console at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boombro Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 When you killed everyone you broke the game! You should not kill everyone! Talk to father don't kill him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhartman9 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Thanks for the radio tip. My first 2 playthroughs I used the minutemen to take the castle but after spending some time there patching up the walls and what not the radio guy was driving me insane so I just quit going there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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