Who I think the Gunners REALLY are

[maybemeandyou]

The Gunners, being a new faction in the Fallout series have popped up in quite a few discussions lately as to who they are, or where they have come from. Why that kind of armor, whats up with the organization ....(and assaultrons). Well my conclusion being a diehard fan of Fallout, I feel that the Gunners are actually a group formed from the Gun Runners from New Vegas. Im not sure that the Gun Runners only existed in New Vegas but the West Coast in general. Think about it, their style armor faintly resembles that of the Gun Runners guards that watch the production plant. They always have pretty decent weaponry and some uniques. Also their occasional assaultron they have just goes to show they have both brain and brawn, both of which were prominent in New Vegas. The Gun Runners were very tight knit and followed the chain of command, which shows that this group could possibly have been a break away from the original group.

 

Gun Runners - u,R = Gunners

thoughts?

Edited January 22, 2016 by maybemeandyou

[CyrusAmell]

Doubtful.

 

Even if they were connected, the distance and difference between the two organizations would render such a relation moot. The Gunners answer only to their own authority and those of their occasional patrons (my guess the Institute on occasion). Like Talon Company, one has to wonder who these soldiers would work for in this world. The resources they command would dwarf those of most governments and settlements, with armories boasting even power armor and the odd plasma weapon. By comparison Diamond City, the wealthiest settlement in Boston (not counting the Institute), can only equip their guards with pipe weapons and re-purposed baseball gear for armor.

 

Of course we are dealing with the shortcomings of a Bethesda rpg, as the developers have little inclination to explain why one group of bandits is more special than the next unless absolutely necessary and even then only the bare minimum.

 

Still, I for one wonder if Talon Company and the Gunners are somehow connected. Who pulls their strings? Where are they headquartered? Why are they mercenaries that seem hostile to every native around them? Questions to be explained in DLC, if ever.

Edited January 22, 2016 by CyrusAmell

[maybemeandyou]

I only imagined the Gun Runners because of their distinct connection to good weaponry and outfits. I would imagine it stemmed from a group of guards were tired of how the Gun Runners worked and went to form their own style of work.

[thunderlord2200]

i was thinking of the Enclave i forgot where i seen it. a video or pic but a building in the back ground looked VERY Enclave'ish

[TheOriginalEvilD]

I sort of just assumed they were a faction that took after pre war military. I compare them to the Sudden-Death Overtime gang in FO3, and even to Moe Cronin in Diamond city. There are a lot of cases in the wasteland where people take what they know of pre war times/groups and fill in the pieces that they don't have and make it their own, just like Ledoux and Moe Cronin take what they know about hockey and baseball and fill in the blanks to make those sports out to be about killing each other.

 

I think the Gunners are taking what little they know of military structure and apply it to their way of life, and the end result are a more organized and better ran group of Raiders. What they interpret from pre war military is a bunch of organized guys who controlled things by killed people...which can be argued is the most basic aspects of any military, but they don't have the reasoning to support why that killing was done in the first place. They know the military killed, they know the military had ranks, they've raided military bases and got a bunch of military gear, and they do what they think the military would be doing.

[zanity]

I thought it was implied they came from that vault that ran an 'Ender's game' experiment on its young inmates? Admittedly it's hard to pay proper attention to the very sad and under-written plot of FO4.

 

 

[Deleted3507349User]

They're just called that so you won't get bored as quickly seeing 'Raider' pop up all the time :D

[Warmaker01]

I would have to disagree about the FO4's Gunner merc group being from FO1 and FONV's Gun Runners. The Gunners are basically a military themed merc group that are way better equipped and organized than anything out in The Commonwealth except for The Institute and the Brotherhood of Steel. The Gunners do their own thing and have their own agendas but they do jobs for whoever pays, regardless of what it entails. It's speculated that they've done jobs for The Institute. They also have done Guard Duty for Cabbot at the Asylum. But they're also quite ruthless out there being basically "Raiders" with better guns and armor. They also wiped out the Minutemen hold of Quincy.

 

The Gun Runners from FO1 and FONV? They're not a mercenary nor raider group. They're basically weapons manufacturers and businessmen that will sell to anyone and they're very good at their job. I still remember buying good stuff and supplies from them in FO1 and FONV. The wiki also says they've had big business with the NCR. They're lavishly armed. Only the Brotherhood is better armed. But going around taking on merc jobs or causing hell isn't the way of the Gun Runners.

Edited January 25, 2016 by Warmaker01

[JackTrenton]

Maybe they are just Talon Company in disguise? The Lone Wanderer handed them their balls on a silver plate in Fallout 3, so they fled the Capital Wasteland in panic, changed their name and appearance, and set up in the Commonwealth to escape his wrath.

[x2ash]

just like everything on fo4 the gunners are just a pointless faction for us to shoot, no story, no depth, no chance of joining, no mystery they are just npcs to shoot... thats it and thats all..