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Deleting the ini will cause oblivion to simply create a new one. I don't know if OO has any effect there, but, if it does, having the game create a new one (which will require resetting your video options.....) should fix it.

 

 

 

No did not help,... :confused:

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HeyYou Grand Master

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Ok, here is a list of files added by OO.

 

 

Volume in drive E has no label.  Volume Serial Number is 58C7-757F   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}  04/19/2011  10:28 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:28 AM              .. 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Data 04/19/2011  10:28 AM     			0 files.txt 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Operation Optimization                1 File(s)              0 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Meshes                0 File(s)              0 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Architecture 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Clutter 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Dungeons 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Obelisk                0 File(s)              0 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Architecture  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              City 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              DaedricStatues 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              GodStatues 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              ImperialCity 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Leyawiin 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Palace 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Statue                0 File(s)              0 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Architecture\City  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Mania                0 File(s)              0 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Architecture\City\Mania  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/28/2007  11:51 AM 		1,028,086 ManiSmity01Int.NIF                1 File(s)      1,028,086 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Architecture\DaedricStatues  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		343,351 DaedricShrineAzura01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		314,001 DaedricShrineBoethia01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		157,426 DaedricShrineClavicusVile01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		382,484 DaedricShrineHircine01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		396,127 DaedricShrineHMora01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		324,691 DaedricShrineMalacath01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		356,824 DaedricShrineMephala01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		338,730 DaedricShrineMeridia01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		257,503 DaedricShrineMolagBal01.nif 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		423,701 DaedricShrineNamira01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		367,591 DaedricShrineNocturnal01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		314,258 DaedricShrinePeryite01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		337,497 DaedricShrineSanguine01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		375,256 DaedricShrineSheogorath01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		353,150 DaedricShrineVaermina01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		226,883 DaedricStatueBoethia01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		118,759 DaedricStatueClavicusVile01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		464,901 DaedricStatueDagon01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		240,371 DaedricStatueMeridia01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		220,700 DaedricStatueMolaBal01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		309,776 DaedricStatueNamira01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		270,060 DaedricStatueSheogorath01.NIF   			22 File(s)      6,894,040 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Architecture\GodStatues  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		239,411 StatueGodAkatosh01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		281,831 StatueGodArkay01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		252,083 StatueGodDibella01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		172,872 StatueGodJulianos01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		257,146 StatueGodKynareth01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		290,778 StatueGodMara01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		189,660 StatueGodSeptim01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		195,497 StatueGodStendarr01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		214,920 StatueGodsZenithar01.NIF                9 File(s)      2,094,198 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Architecture\ImperialCity  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/28/2007  11:51 AM 		2,439,228 ICPalaceTower01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM 		2,089,147 ICPalaceTowerBase01.NIF                2 File(s)      4,528,375 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Architecture\Leyawiin  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/28/2007  11:51 AM 		2,662,298 LeyawiinMGInterior.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		611,690 LeyawiinMGInteriorDinning.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		581,845 LeyawiinMGInteriorShops.NIF                3 File(s)      3,855,833 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Architecture\Palace  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Interior                0 File(s)              0 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Architecture\Palace\Interior  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		116,494 PalaceCourtAlcove01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		144,931 PalaceCourtConnector01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		525,511 PalaceCourtEnd01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		455,890 PalaceCourtEnd02.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		451,835 PalaceCourtEnd03.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		494,886 PalaceCourtEnd04.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		514,484 PalaceCourtEnd05.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		143,347 PalaceCourtSteps01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		727,203 PalaceMadnessTree01.NIF                9 File(s)      3,574,581 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Architecture\Statue  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		764,687 GarridanFrozen.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		464,689 ICDragonStatue01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		237,046 StatueAnvil01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		244,744 StatueImperial02.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		294,728 StatueImperial03.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		261,795 StatueImperial04.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		226,489 StatueImperial05.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		276,989 StatueLeyawiin01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		429,423 StatueMartyn.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		365,212 StatueTownBruma01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		205,081 StatueTownCheydinhal01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		641,366 StatueTownSkindgrad01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		287,367 TheSentinel.NIF   			13 File(s)      4,699,616 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Clutter  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              SEFurniture                0 File(s)              0 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Clutter\SEFurniture  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		613,175 MadnessArmorDisplay01.NIF 04/28/2007  11:51 AM   		455,259 SEArmorDummyAmber.NIF                2 File(s)      1,068,434 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Dungeons  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              AyleidRuins                0 File(s)              0 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Dungeons\AyleidRuins  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              Exterior                0 File(s)              0 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Dungeons\AyleidRuins\Exterior  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/28/2007  11:51 AM 		1,151,180 ARStatue01.NIF                1 File(s)      1,151,180 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Data\Meshes\Obelisk  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/28/2007  11:51 AM 		1,562,408 Obelisk01.NIF                1 File(s)      1,562,408 bytes   Directory of E:\games\OblivionMods\Performance\OOextracted\{app}\Operation Optimization  04/19/2011  10:20 AM              . 04/19/2011  10:20 AM              .. 04/28/2007  11:51 AM 			5,709 Readme.html                1 File(s)          5,709 bytes   	Total Files Listed:   			65 File(s) 	30,462,460 bytes   			59 Dir(s)  27,713,163,264 bytes free

 

 

I am unable to determine what other changes the install script makes....... as I don't have an app to open .iss files. If simply deleting the list of files doesn't work, (no small endeavor that....) a reinstall may be your only other option.

 

Edit: Darn. Format fail...... PM me your email address, and I can send you the text file, that has readable formatting........

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Hi again :biggrin:

 

HeyYou : Did som thinking aboat all you did tell me, and came up with one more conclusion i should

try before reinstall Oblivion.

 

"Operation Optimization" is more or less a environment mod that messes around whith your meshes,

right..?,

So i did this : Uninstall "Operation Optimization"

 

Did reinstall all meshes and textures and menues for this

mods,and in the right order :

 

"Low-Low-Poly Grass for SI v1.5"

 

"Clearer Underwater"

 

"AliveWaters"

 

"ElsweyrAnequinaV3 Dec2010"

 

"Under the sign of the dragon - Tamriel heightmaps"

 

"Side_s_Sailing_Ships"

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AND IT WORKT....!!!!!! :thumbsup: :biggrin:

 

So "Operation Optimization" did somthing to my meshes and

textures that the game did not like..!

 

"Operation Optimization" is NEVER..! coming back to my pc.

 

Thank you for all your help "HeyYou" and reply to me.....

 

Regard`s Capten Morgan......... :pirate:

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This is probably the point where someone (Hickory?) would normally point out that if you used Wrye Bash and BAIN installers you'd never have that problem, as you'd rebuild the mesh list and it would replace the ones that OO altered. I've done it to save him the trouble. However, learning HOW to use BAIN installers is a whole different subject - and so far I've failed to get my head around it. :(

 

ANY cosmetic mod MAY overwrite a mesh - when you remove it it will probably remove those meshes leaving nothing. That's the problem.

 

So, the rule is - BACKUP your data folder BEFORE installing stuff, then you can restore more easily if it doesn't work.

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Striker879 Grand Master

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You can also run into that problem activating and deactivating OMODs (I don't use many OMODs, but switching body types using my HGEC Body with BBB v1dot11 OMOD will require some 'repair work' afterwards). Two votes for 'backing up your stuff' ... hard drive space is cheap. Edited by Striker879
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Adding a second hard drive isn't that hard ... after you get the case open it's slide it in, maybe a couple of screw depending on the case, hook up two cables and reboot. Partition the new drive and format it (sort of gets your operating system and the new drive acquainted with one another) and then use it. If you go with the external hard drive for backup option it's just as easy (and there will be an instruction sheet to walk you through the process).
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