Lisnpuppy Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 If the reason you want permission is for a major bug fix or something, you can try asking the staff directly if you can have an 'exemption' of sorts, where you provide credit and agree to remove the mod if the author ever returns and asks you to, no questions asked. There is precedent for this in a number of spots where mod authors have been banned or moved on but people were allowed you host fixed for their files etc under these conditions if the cause is major (Look at Sharlikans patches) There has been discussion about the permissions by mod authors to change where the permissions must be more explicit and a option of if you can not reach me then you can or can not use the work so that it is a clear answer of permission. However until that time comes it is what it is. One of the reasons this site has survived so long is the trust it has established with mod authors that their work will remain, intact and only used in a way they specifically and explicitly specify. The Nexus in effect become caretakers of the work. They are not owners. They do not claim ownership, make changes or give permissions not granted by the author already. Though it is frustrating to some when a really great piece of work can not be further shared and used, the binding trust with the makers of such works is what allows the continued sharing and openness that does exist. Should it be otherwise I have no doubt that many authors would no longer feel able to share works in any capacity. Sometimes you can look on the file site under member page to see if they have been on the file side of the site (whose date of last visit is not always the same as the forum.) If you see they have been active try asking permission in the mod comments or if they have uploaded a recent image, apologizing for asking in such a manner. However if you do not receive an answer after a reasonable time and attempt then again, assume the default of no permission given. Unfortunately bug fixes are not an exception to the rule. People that have hosted "fixed" files for banned members would either have that person's permission (which you do not have) or they would create a mod dependent on the original work, much like you have to do when using assets from official DLCs where you can not upload the original content without making it all dependent on having ownership of a DLC. Of course you can ask the moderators about situations but largely LadyMilla has covered the rule and answered the question. Unfortunate for you and perhaps for those who wish to use a mod they can not fix themselves but that is part of the give and take and trust in the modding community here at the Nexus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
536861646f57 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 If the reason you want permission is for a major bug fix or something, you can try asking the staff directly if you can have an 'exemption' of sorts, where you provide credit and agree to remove the mod if the author ever returns and asks you to, no questions asked. There is precedent for this in a number of spots where mod authors have been banned or moved on but people were allowed you host fixed for their files etc under these conditions if the cause is major (Look at Sharlikans patches) There has been discussion about the permissions by mod authors to change where the permissions must be more explicit and a option of if you can not reach me then you can or can not use the work so that it is a clear answer of permission. However until that time comes it is what it is. One of the reasons this site has survived so long is the trust it has established with mod authors that their work will remain, intact and only used in a way they specifically and explicitly specify. The Nexus in effect become caretakers of the work. They are not owners. They do not claim ownership, make changes or give permissions not granted by the author already. Though it is frustrating to some when a really great piece of work can not be further shared and used, the binding trust with the makers of such works is what allows the continued sharing and openness that does exist. Should it be otherwise I have no doubt that many authors would no longer feel able to share works in any capacity. Sometimes you can look on the file site under member page to see if they have been on the file side of the site (whose date of last visit is not always the same as the forum.) If you see they have been active try asking permission in the mod comments or if they have uploaded a recent image, apologizing for asking in such a manner. However if you do not receive an answer after a reasonable time and attempt then again, assume the default of no permission given. Unfortunately bug fixes are not an exception to the rule. People that have hosted "fixed" files for banned members would either have that person's permission (which you do not have) or they would create a mod dependent on the original work, much like you have to do when using assets from official DLCs where you can not upload the original content without making it all dependent on having ownership of a DLC. Of course you can ask the moderators about situations but largely LadyMilla has covered the rule and answered the question. Unfortunate for you and perhaps for those who wish to use a mod they can not fix themselves but that is part of the give and take and trust in the modding community here at the Nexus. The reason I almost necroposted was because Oblivion had greaves, and Skyrim didn't. Someone made a mod that added greaves. I want to use the meshes in my Artifacts of Cyrodiil mod, so I messaged them. They haven't been online since January. I hardly think they're coming online anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thandal Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 The reason I almost necroposted was because Oblivion had greaves, and Skyrim didn't. Someone made a mod that added greaves. I want to use the meshes in my Artifacts of Cyrodiil mod, so I messaged them. They haven't been online since January. I hardly think they're coming online anytime soon. If so, it simply means one can't use those materials in a mod unless and until able to make contact some other way and receive permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
536861646f57 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 The reason I almost necroposted was because Oblivion had greaves, and Skyrim didn't. Someone made a mod that added greaves. I want to use the meshes in my Artifacts of Cyrodiil mod, so I messaged them. They haven't been online since January. I hardly think they're coming online anytime soon. If so, it simply means one can't use those materials in a mod unless and until able to make contact some other way and receive permission. Grrrrrrr. Ugh, guess I have to deal with mofuggin Blender and screw with 3DSBull again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calzien Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Grrrrrrr. Ugh, guess I have to deal with mofuggin Blender and screw with 3DSBull again.I can relate to that frustration. However at the same time I'm glad to see the Nexus is taking this stance with a user's work. All a mod author can do is make a notice that after x many days, months, years, centuries, whatever, without an update that their work becomes free domain for anyone to work on or use as they see fit. I've seen a couple mod authors already doing this with their permissions. The most I can suggest would be in most cases if it's like a mod you like but has bugs, see if you can't learn how it works. If you're able to figure out and make a copy from scratch (I'd still run it by the Nexus staff before you do so.) without using the original assets at all it might work. In this case, study the original greaves and how the mod author made them. Don't try to use it as a template but if there's aspects you like about the greaves you can probably incorporate those into your own design. But if you got inspiration from that mod author's greaves I'd highly recommend mentioning so in your comments to prevent accusations that you ripped off someone else's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazenn Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Unfortunately bug fixes are not an exception to the rule. People that have hosted "fixed" files for banned members would either have that person's permission (which you do not have) or they would create a mod dependent on the original work, much like you have to do when using assets from official DLCs where you can not upload the original content without making it all dependent on having ownership of a DLC. Except that no one knows if the permissions about modifications apply to this as well. Half the mod authors believe if you create a patch that's dependent on another mod without that mod authors permissions then its ban worthy, the other half believe, as you seem to have suggested here, that its fine because you need the original mod anyway and its just an esp patch.No one has a cohesive understanding of exactly when permissions apply, what the exceptions are, and where esp's sit as far as 'asset' usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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