The Lore of Fallout

[TziporaHalevi]

I think you may be on to something. The museum could possibly be one of the rock Rebabs that explains things.

 

Just because the govt/society opposed it doesn't mean people wouldn't continue to create new music, after all artists thrive on freedom and actually tend to come up with some of their best pieces when they feel oppressed.

 

A good way to make these radios exist would be to add a quest. Maybe like you said the music was rare, so that eliminates commercial success of it, and some of the worst musicians out today.

 

Hip hop started as an underground thing on the streets and some old school stuff with more simplistic beats can easily be heard in a smaller town. Throw in the fact that the civil rights act was probably never signed in a society that didn't accept cultural change and you get fuel for some of the militant rap songs performed by Public enemy or Tupac Shakur.

 

Guess Nirvana would stick to being a Garage band only found in Fallout Seattle :<

 

Now all ya need is a quest to obtain some of this music, as if it existed it wasn't commercialized like it is in today's world.

 

Black Marketers would likely somehow find a way to sneak in internatonal music, giving the Beatles a chance to exist but would require you to do some digging around for a radio host that likes to collect British Rock.

 

An NCR station that plays Surf music? Lol Beach Boys ftw

Edited May 18, 2011 by TziporaHalevi

[AveTruetoCaesar]

Just because the govt/society opposed it doesn't mean people wouldn't continue to create new music, after all artists thrive on freedom and actually tend to come up with some of their best pieces when they feel oppressed.

The way I think, the government would have been incredibly hostile towards the genres. Banning record distribution, keeping them from touring and exiling them to other countries.

A good way to make these radios exist would be to add a quest. Maybe like you said the music was rare, so that eliminates commercial success of it, and some of the worst musicians out today.

Well, a backstory I came up with is that a lot of this music was back in sale in the late 2070's, being sold to supporters of the Protest movement by a big company.

 

Hip hop started as an underground thing on the streets and some old school stuff with more simplistic beats can easily be heard in a smaller town. Throw in the fact that the civil rights act was probably never signed in a society that didn't accept cultural change and you get fuel for some of the militant rap songs performed by Public enemy or Tupac Shakur.

Civil rights where probably signed in Fallout. In Anchorage, you see a fully integrated army of men and woman of all colors.

 

Black Marketers would likely somehow find a way to sneak in internatonal music, giving the Beatles a chance to exist but would require you to do some digging around for a radio host that likes to collect British Rock.

I had the idea for a British Invasion station run out of a Vault where everybody thought they where living under Britain, but I scrapped it. I can find ways of incorporating British artists into the other ones.

 

An NCR station that plays Surf music? Lol Beach Boys ftw

I figure it would targeted at Younger Soldiers, being a lot of them would probably find Frank Sinatra and others boring.

 

Anyways, I wouldn't be able to host the mod here, but maybe if I trust a person enough, I'll send it to them.

[TziporaHalevi]

Well if you find you can trust me :) Or maybe make it customization friendly so we can use our own music. It'll just make it easier for us to categorize it to specific stations. I definitely like your ideas though and that civil rights bit makes sense.

 

"China has invaded us, it is time for all of us as Americans to band together regardless of color and crush our enemy.

 

The protest station makes me want to add some hippie music and militant hip hop.

Edited May 18, 2011 by TziporaHalevi

[kelticpete]

the new dlc seems to deal with the survival of mormonism in utah. not done with it yet, so I don't know all the data from burned man or daniel.

 

I think they decided to avoid religion in fallout the way most horror and sci fi movies avoided religion. the 50s was the height of the "to be an american is to be christian, but if you talk about your particular brand, I won't ever have you over for dinner again."

 

 

theologically, I think if jews survived it would have been the few that were not in israel or NYC...i am thinking those two places were toast. and judaism already had a personal holocaust so i don't think it would change that much.

 

christianity would probably have survived, but maybe not institutional churches. just a few thought.

[TziporaHalevi]

From what I read in the wiki Israel and the rest of the middle east went boom, but apparently so did Europe. I don't remember the exact details but this timeline was taken from the fallout bible.

 

Still Moriarty's Father is from Ireland I believe so he probably got there from destroyed europe somehow as did Tenpenny I believe. So much possibilities to work with..

 

A fallout China would also be interesting too to see what the other side was like.

[AveTruetoCaesar]

The protest station makes me want to add some hippie music and militant hip hop.

I think Hip Hop goes a little too far from Fallout Lore.

[TziporaHalevi]

The protest station makes me want to add some hippie music and militant hip hop.

I think Hip Hop goes a little too far from Fallout Lore.

 

depends on how far forward you go. Rapper's delight? Maybe lol.

 

Either way I wouldn't incorporate any of that really into the game, it's a nice thought but yeah I think 1970s is about as far as I'll go. though if there's anything that has a jazzy 50ish feel to it I will probably incorporate that as part of new artists of a musical culture that never really changed.

Edited May 19, 2011 by TziporaHalevi

[djmystro]

I'd been giving a similar project some thought but I am unlikely to make it coz I'll never get the copyright clearances to host the files I would have used on the Nexus.

Personally I'd have scattered the records about but have them tied back to one place, maybe a Vault belonging to a collector who imported records produced in other countries with a less strict regime in place. Possibly even a highly illegal collection with many traps in place to guard it. The idea of going around collecting records and then having them added to a radio station via a quest NPC (or similar) is one I would very much like to see.

[minngarm]

Well correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the lore basiclly show that the main twist in fallout era compared to RL era is that nicola tesla survived to finish his works, such as his tesla coil defence system? Then by doing so forever altered the timeframe, as the soviets would not be able to compete with a truly active anti missile defence system, coupled with the byproducts of his inventions such as man portable energy weapons, long lasting fission batterys and all that jazz. Then with these inventions being implimented during the space race era it would have further fortified the nationalist mentality of the era for Americans, and would have stopped the 60s as we know it, as they were a result of a nation basicly losing its faith in its gov't and traditional beliefs.

[TziporaHalevi]

This is very true! However, there are still things that I can see from the 60s that would have happened.

 

African Americans for one were oppressed in various states up until the Civil Rights Act was signed. If America did not want to culturally change that act likely wouldn't have been signed until a later date. Pain inspires music, and thus some African American musicians may have still been around voicing their pain through their music.

 

If the ghetto stayed the ghetto than Hip hop would still be born, though likely would not have strayed beyond it's roots. Likely would have a few African Americans hanging out rapping on the streets about the living conditions. It'd just be poetry with rhythm, lacking in anything beyond someone making a beat with their mouth.

 

Descendants may have held onto the tradition and kept it going. Perhaps a few people in west side for ambiance shouting rhymes. Nothing more.

 

The Black Panther party also formed After The Civil rights Act was signed. However with a less tolerant government it is safe to say much of them were exterminated, especially with their belief system. Seems they embraced Communism and Socialism which is a no no. Interesting twist.

 

You'd probably still have your hippies in smaller amounts, likely persecuted but their way of life may still be recorded somewhere. While yes national pride would be strong we are still an incredibly diverse nation with people of varying opinions.

 

In the end though there are a lot of what-ifs, after all people will be people and many are willing to die for their beliefs.

Edited May 19, 2011 by TziporaHalevi