Thephedora Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 There is obviously power abuse in the world. From political figures, company CEOs, the rural town sheriff, and dozens of other examples. So according to the nexus population, what is considered abusing power to you, how do you recognize it, and what do you do about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flintlockecole Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Abusing power to me is using it against the better of the people, and when it comes down it either the abuser step's down or said people drag them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 IMO abusing power is when you use your power to hurt others while knowing it will hurt others in the long run. I don't think its fair to say someone is abusing power if they don't really know they are hurting people. For example, I don't think Hitler abused power, I think he was batshit crazy and thought everything he did was for the greater good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grannywils Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Marharth, may I be the first of many to disagree with you on the Hitler thing. He may have been crazy as a loon, but I am fairly certain that he knew exactly what he was doing to hurt people, and that he knew he was abusing his power (whether or not he felt it was for the greater good, he sure knew it was for his own good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisnpuppy Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Marharth, may I be the first of many to disagree with you on the Hitler thing. He may have been crazy as a loon, but I am fairly certain that he knew exactly what he was doing to hurt people, and that he knew he was abusing his power (whether or not he felt it was for the greater good, he sure knew it was for his own good). /agrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Marharth, may I be the first of many to disagree with you on the Hitler thing. He may have been crazy as a loon, but I am fairly certain that he knew exactly what he was doing to hurt people, and that he knew he was abusing his power (whether or not he felt it was for the greater good, he sure knew it was for his own good).Well if he knew for sure he was abusing his power, then I would agree with you. My point is that it depends on the reasons your doing stuff, not that your just doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grannywils Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Marharth, may I be the first of many to disagree with you on the Hitler thing. He may have been crazy as a loon, but I am fairly certain that he knew exactly what he was doing to hurt people, and that he knew he was abusing his power (whether or not he felt it was for the greater good, he sure knew it was for his own good).Well if he knew for sure he was abusing his power, then I would agree with you. My point is that it depends on the reasons your doing stuff, not that your just doing it. Marharth, I will not argue this point with you. However, just for your own personal edification, please follow this link. It speaks of what can happen to a person who is treated badly as a young person (in this case Adolf Hitler) and what extraordinary damage he can do to a Nation and a World as a result. If he was badly treated, his idea was to get back at anyone and anything that he could.http://www.naturalchild.org/alice_miller/adolf_hitler.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Marharth, may I be the first of many to disagree with you on the Hitler thing. He may have been crazy as a loon, but I am fairly certain that he knew exactly what he was doing to hurt people, and that he knew he was abusing his power (whether or not he felt it was for the greater good, he sure knew it was for his own good).Well if he knew for sure he was abusing his power, then I would agree with you. My point is that it depends on the reasons your doing stuff, not that your just doing it. Marharth, I will not argue this point with you. However, just for your own personal edification, please follow this link. It speaks of what can happen to a person who is treated badly as a young person (in this case Adolf Hitler) and what extraordinary damage he can do to a Nation and a World as a result. If he was badly treated, his idea was to get back at anyone and anything that he could.http://www.naturalchild.org/alice_miller/adolf_hitler.htmlHitler was just a bad example in this case, I was in no way trying to justify Hitler or something of that sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grannywils Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Good to know, Marharth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeTomaso Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) Hitler’s journey through life hasn’t been caused by his childhood. It isn’t always that simple. Nevertheless Hitler’s journey is a good example to get an impression of at least one of those kinds of experience one probably has to make to end up in an abuse of power.Compare Hitler’s journey with the journey of one of his contemporaries who has shared precisely the same experience on site – J.R.R. Tolkien. The story begins in Flanders, on the battlefields of WW-I, stinking moon landscapes filled with bloated bodies in all colors on the ground and poison gas in the air, and above all, the dreaded drumm-drumm, the drums of the artillery - the dance of the Death in poisonous yellow mist. Trench warfare. Visions. These two men got dark visions, mad visions, visions of fantastic powers battling beyond the horizon, mental backdoors to flee the seemingly endless horror of powerlessness and subjection to the slaughter in Flanders. It's the survival of the third kind, the gas sickness.You remember the Hobbit village Bree in Lord of the Rings? That is where I was born, in Bree on the east side, the Belgian side of the Brandywine River (read: Channel), in Flanders. It’s very difficult to find another two that haven’t seen each other and that are that different and though that similar, connected by just one shared experience, a crucial experience though. The way they have actually handled the gas sickness they had to share with a gazillion of young men in Flanders should set the tone for their future approach to power, the own power, the own visions one can't get rid of, and thus with a coming to terms with the dreadful war experience as well. After the war their journey through life got parted as light and shadow, cos for a considerable time the one went freely in a psychiatric clinic in Britain and the other just as freely in the Munich beer garden. The mental fellowship of shared experience in Flanders thus had to break up and their individual fate as "Beren the Elven friend" and "Sauron the 2nd Dark Lord" should take its course. Drumm - drumm. Orc drums in the depth. Edited May 20, 2011 by DeTomaso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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