gamenode Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Hi everyone. This is my first post here. I've recently revisited Oblivion for the summer and have become fascinated with mods. In fact I probably spend more time downloading and installing mods than I do playing. Right now I've run into a wall. I was playing (successfully) with Cosmetic Compilation and Female Eye-Candy (Body Replacer). All was well until I decided to download and install HGEC and then Raven Elves. Actually I played just fine with HGEC but I only mentioned it because it was part of the process of getting to Raven Elves. After I installed Raven Elves my previous savegame would not load. I found the reason for this in the forums--Oblivion does not support multiple custom race mods. (Note: Raven Elves did work and I was able to create a new character using the mod but the Mystic Elf from Cosmetic Compilation was gone. No problem I said. I'll start a new game some day and use Raven Elves. So I used OBMM to uninstall Raven Elves and then tried to get CC back. I tried completely uninstalling it and the female body replacer but still no luck. For some reason it says files are missing. Below are a list of mods I'm using as well as notes about whether they are ticked, and whether they are functioning as expected. Oblivion.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34 Beta 5]Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9b3] HorseCombatMaster.esm---Installed, ticked, but don't really know if it works. I may not install it in future. Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]--Installed but doesn't seem to help anything. Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]ChaseCameraMod.esp [Version 1.01] wd purse of wonders.esp--Installed and works mostly. The automatic function which moves ingredients into the POW doesn't always work. Living Economy.esp [Version 3.6]DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4] sr_super_hotkeys.esp [Version 0.54]--Installed, works, but I don't understand it's full functions or how to get certain menus to come up. Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34 Beta 5]OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp [Version 1.33]OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp [Version 1.33]OOO-Birthsigns.esp [Version 1.33]OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp [Version 1.33]OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp [Version 1.33]OOO-Dangerous_traps.esp [Version 1.33]OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp [Version 1.33]OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp [Version 1.33]OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp [Version 1.33]OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp [Version 1.33]OOO-Potions.esp [Version 1.33]OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp [Version 1.33] Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9b5]Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.espMart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b1]Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3]Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3]Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b1]Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp [Version 3.7b3]Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3]Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3]Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3] Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp--installed but hunting too much causes CTD Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3]Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3]Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.espMart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3]Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3] OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34 Beta 5]--installed but not ticked Enchanting and Spell Making Altars.esp VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.4]--Installed, ticked, seems to be working but haven't reach high enough level for questline to start. Knights.espMart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp [Version 3.7b3]Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]DZ_Auto_Harvest.espQuest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1] Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]--installed but not tickedQuest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]--installed but not ticked Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]LithiansNatureOfTheBeastModBeta.espSupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b]SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90]SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.90]SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.90]SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90]SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90]SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90] Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp--installed but not ticked.Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed block and 150% damage.espDeadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp --installed but not ticked Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp--installed, ticked, but doesn't seem to work. Did a while back though. DRSplatter.esp--installed but not ticked Cosmetic Compilation.esp--installed, ticked, not functioning. Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b1] GW71_Life_Detect.esp--Installed, ticked, but doesn't work. Haven't figured this one out either. DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.espSM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.90] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 You need your bashed patch. Do a search on Wrye Bash. There are some good threads about it here, and on the official forums. There are some instructions on how to use it available for download both here, and also at TES Alliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamenode Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) I've downloaded Wrye Bash but i can't get it to start. Not sure what I'm doing wrong with it but the instructions on how to fix the non-start issue are not understandable. I will take your suggestion though and revisit Wrye Bash. Edit: I just download the Wrye Bash exe. and installed it. I still have the same problem with Wryebash launcher not working. Edit: I did a bugdump and this was the result Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]© Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\xxxxx>chdir C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy>c:\python25\python.exe bash.py -dC:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bosh.py:15124: Warning: 'with' will become a reserved keyword in Python 2.6Traceback (most recent call last): File "bash.py", line 38, in <module> import bosh File "C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bosh.py", line 15124 with open(os.path.join(root, name),"r") as text: ^SyntaxError: invalid syntax C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy> I have no idea what any of that means. I was just following the instructions in the Wrye Bash site. Edited May 20, 2011 by gamenode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamenode Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 OK. Now I'm really confused. After clicking on Wrye Bash launcher a couple times and getting nothing I then clicked on Wrye Bash Debug and a command prompt window cam up for an instant and disappeared. Just for yucks I tried to play the saved game and it worked. What happened here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoSxorpio Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 You need Python 2.6 installed. Luckily, there is a simple solution that the author of Wrye Bash thought of and mad an installer. D/l "Wrye Python 03a", install it. THEN install "Wrye Bash 291 Installer version". That will solve the Wyre thing. Be sure to untick "Lock Times" in the right-click menu of the main panel when it first starts. I like to also "Sort by...." load order. Good Luck, I will check back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamenode Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) You need Python 2.6 installed. Luckily, there is a simple solution that the author of Wrye Bash thought of and mad an installer. D/l "Wrye Python 03a", install it. THEN install "Wrye Bash 291 Installer version". That will solve the Wyre thing. Be sure to untick "Lock Times" in the right-click menu of the main panel when it first starts. I like to also "Sort by...." load order. Good Luck, I will check back. I've found that file and installing now. Should I have uninstalled the previous version first? Edit: Disregard that. It's working but now I have to figure out how to use it. bbl I got the 03a version working and now you say I should install the 231 version? And what do I do with it once I do that? What does Wrye Bash do? Edit: I've downloaded the 231 version as you said. It immediately started Wrye Bash and all it's features although I'm not sure yet what those are actually. One thing I noticed when loading a save game was that when I used a detect life spell the aura was red which is what the GW71 Detect Life mod is supposed to do. However, that lasted for only a second and then it turned into a bright pink cloud and I couldn't tell what it was. So it seems like the mod is trying to work but then failed. Also what is a wrye patch? I see that in the OBMM list and it is unticked as well in the Wrye Bash list. How do I create this fabled patch and what does it do? I've looked at the Wrye Bash site for these answers but I'm not seeing them or on other sites as well. Mostly it's technical jargon which doesn't make much sense without context. Edited May 21, 2011 by gamenode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Right click on the bashed patch 0.esp file, and in the context menu, select "Rebuild Patch". There are abunch of options...... Follow this guide here. Good Luck. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakirev Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) After I installed Raven Elves my previous savegame would not load. I found the reason for this in the forums--Oblivion does not support multiple custom race mods. So I guess I haven't been using the Chocolate Elves, Sonnet, and Tabaxi races together for the last year. ;) HeyYou is correct: the problem isn't multiple custom race mods, but getting every mod you run to work together, and Wrye Mash is the best tool for that. Don't give up. :) Edited May 21, 2011 by Balakirev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamenode Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 After I installed Raven Elves my previous savegame would not load. I found the reason for this in the forums--Oblivion does not support multiple custom race mods. So I guess I haven't been using the Chocolate Elves, Sonnet, and Tabaxi races together for the last year. ;) HeyYou is correct: the problem isn't multiple custom race mods, but getting every mod you run to work together, and Wrye Mash is the best tool for that. Don't give up. :) I'm not giving up but my frustration level is pretty high. I did that bash build thing. I haven't noticed any real change in the game. I still get instability out in the field when I'm killing lots of wilderness creatures and moving around. I just save a lot. As for the Raven Elves the OBMM shows it as red as well Roberts Body Replacer. Not sure I should mess with those lest I break the game again. Still can't get the GW71 Life Detect to work right. I can see the red underneath the bright pink cloud but for some reason the cloud won't go away. Any ideas? BTW thanks for posting your ideas. I appreciate all your help so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamenode Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) I can't help but wonder if some of my problem is that I have an 8 year old computer? Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.20GHz,3.19GHz (x2) Hard Drives(s): . . . . .120.1GB, ST3120026AMicrosoft Windows XP Home EditionCreative SB AudigyNVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 Ultra (256MB)PLEXTOR DVD+R/RW/ROM RECORDERINVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 Ultra, 5-31-2003, 4.4.6.5Creative SB Audigy, 1-3-2003, 5.12.1.324 Note: I've upgraded the video card to a Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS and I've put in 4k ram (although I think XP only uses 3200 of it). And I have a 40 inch LCD TV/Monitor. Edited May 21, 2011 by gamenode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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