RIP 4th Amendment..

[HeyYou]

but kindly explain why you describe our hugely respected Head of State, Queen Elizabeth, as murderous?

Oh, i forgott that is patriotic for englishman to chearleading a inbreeding royal family that has their roots in two german bloodlines.

Queen Elizabeth II is the biggest Landowner on the Planet. The Royal Family is still in controll over the military. The Queen suspendet the canadian parlament three times, because they would not follow their agenda. They ban protests in London during this clownish wedding circus and arrest people in precrime, every english police man still has a crown on his helmet and on and on and on. This Family pushes the population reduction, the carbone taxes, the false green revolution that would bring us back to the technological standarts of the medieval, but these people would be still in controll. Did you know these sick nazi jokes that her husband, also a german noble, made? And that he would like to be reincarnated as a virus, to kill humans? But he has a large inbreeding family ofcourse, double standart for the royals. Hey by the way, this guy is the "formal"(again just formal, nothing to see here) head of the WWF, even when he goes on hunting trips for tigers. Yeah, let the stupid eco facists do the work for you, let them protect your royal safari areas.

Arrest people in precrime for their inbreeding circus show, and english taxpayer must pay for that boloney . Sounds like an dystopic scifi story but this stuff is for real.

 

Respected head of state... Is this realy the 21th century or somewhere in the feudal ages?

 

America fought a war against this tyrannical bunch of thiefs, thats the reason for the 4th amendment and all the others, because kings and queens are tyrannical.

 

I'm sure we'll manage without you.

No' date=' because UK is dependent on tourism, because the manufacturing is gone and there are families where the children are redundant in the third generation. You can't manage anything anymore. This country is gone like the rest of europe. :biggrin:

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Are you sure your name isn't Oliver Cromwell, or perhaps Maximilian Robespierre?

 

The Queen never prorogues any Parliament without being requested to by the Goverment. For example, the Governor General of Canada, being the Queen's representative, suspended the Canadian Parliament in 2008 at the request of the elected Prime Minister, due to a rebellion within the coalition making it impossible to govern. It is a convention for the British Prime Minister, when he decides to go to the country and call a General Election, to request the Queen to dissolve Parliament.

 

You really have absolutely no idea of the concept of a constitutional monarchy and the Queen in Parliament, that is obvious. The Queen rigorously keeps out of politics and NEVER acts except on the advice of the Goverment. The declaration of "La reine le veult" (yes we do pass bills into law in Norman French still) means it is actually the will of the majority party in Parliament.

 

When you compare the Queen with other heads of state, she has been around a lot longer and has unrivalled experience. And if you are looking for a blood soaked tyrant for head of state, I suggest you take a look at Robert Mugabe or Mad Mo Ghadaffi.

 

As for the troublemakers who got rounded up before the wedding, they were a lot safer in custody than they would have been if they had been free to try anything. It would have been a toss up as to whether the crowd got them before the sharpshooters did.

 

DO try getting your facts right rather than merely ranting. It's you who is living back in the feudal era in your own mind. It looks awfully silly. And there are some extremely vocal Brits on here who are not going to take your anti-Britishness lying down. Unfortunately for you, they are also well informed.

 

Yee Haa! there Ginnyfizz. An absolutely excellent rebuttal.

 

One question I have though is: (no, I am not real informed on events surrounding the royal wedding..... I purposely ignored it.) Did they actually arrest, and detain people, that they thought "might" cause trouble at/around the wedding? What criterion did they use to decide whom they rounded up? And how long did they hold them? Were they actually CHARGED with anything????

[ginnyfizz]

Yes, they did arrest people that they thought might cause trouble, but not without good reason. One guy for example was just setting out from his house with a mock guillotine and was going to behead an effigy of one of the royals. Others had declared their intentions of disrupting the procession, smashing and trashing things, general unpleasant party pooping. The police were able to apprehend them on the grounds that they might cause a breach of the peace, which is quite likely to have occurred. They would probably have got mauled by an irate crowd, trampled by the horses or even shot by the police and military marksmen had they got close, so they were safer locked up. Also they could have caused serious injury to others by leaping in front of the horses or otherwise interfering - I hear a trooper's horse bolted as the happy couple left the Abbey, even with a good naturedly loud crowd, so anyone who was there with malice aforethought could have really done some damage.

 

These categories of people would have been arrested the night before or early on the morning of the wedding and released later that evening having been bound over to keep the peace. Any seriously nasty terrorist suspects would have been detained longer or deported where possible, but we might never get to know the details, if indeed there were any in that category arrested.

[HeyYou]

Thanks for the enlightenment. I do, however, see that folks might have some issues with such behavior. But, being an american..... I don't assign quite as much importance to Royals as the British authorities might.... I haven't ever heard of folks being arrested here in the states, for something they 'might' do, declared intentions or not..... I suspect there would be a major hue and cry by the ACLU, and various other institutions of that nature if it were to occur..... I am sure the news media here would have a field day with it, if such were to happen here.....

 

Chalk it up to a different cultural mindset?

[Aurielius]

No, if an intruder has a knife, you're allowed to use your knife. Reasonable force, they say. Of course, slicing his head off isn't.

Problem is... What is reasonable force? And you can bet your butt that the crim will make some attempt to sue me for hitting him if I kick his backside.

 

It's difficult for corpses to sue, just saying.

There is an old american saying that I would rather be judged by tewlve (jurorors) than be carried by six ( pallbearers).

[Namesaretaken]

your anti-Britishness lying down

I'am anti-british because i'am against a german royal family, that took another name during world war one, before the peasents perceive that they were sacrificed in a war stagend by the nobility on both sides?

Thats anti-british? Is the obedient to a inbreeding bunch of parasitic gangsters that, was a british define as british? Chearleading them when they spend british taxmoney for partys with saudi princes and other tyrannical, blood sucking human garbage?

I tought it was scared when i was in london a few years ago and there were surveillance cameras even on the public toilet, but to see this town during the wedding, that was scary. It looked like north-korea, with pictures and flaggs everywhere.

What a stupide reasoning.

 

For example, the Governor General of Canada, being the Queen's representative(meaning puppet), suspended the Canadian Parliament in 2008(also 2009 and 2011) at the request of the elected Prime Minister, due to a rebellion within the coalition making it impossible to govern(meaning to rule over the peasants). It is a convention for the British Prime Minister, when he decides to go to the country and call a General Election, to request the Queen to dissolve Parliament.

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They would probably have got mauled by an irate crowd, trampled by the horses or even shot by the police and military marksmen had they got close, so they were safer locked up.

You mean something like this could happen? Peasant riots?

 

Look at their friends they invite.

Royal wedding guest list causes controversy

"This guest list reads like a 'Who's Who' of tyrants and their cronies," said Republic chief Graham Smith.

 

Man this is so crazy.

 

Hey, if will live in tyranny, finde, pay for these inbreeders, fine. But i want freedom,. And don't think i'am "anti-british" because there are many british who also wan't a real republic and bring the royals down. How can i be anti-british for attacking a german family that use british people as bloodbags and canon fodder?.. that makes no sense. Looks like people that have nothing left to be proud on, they see a attack against that was is left as a attack against themself. And ofcourse tribal thinking is everywhere still very similar.

 

 

I want a first, a secound and all of the other Amendments. And the people that wrote them fight a war against these royal f***s. because they are tyrannical. Thats the nature of a king, they want always more, more power. And they become paranoid, and then they arrest people. They send their townguard to arrest everyone that wouldn't pay for their parasitic, decadent, livestyle.

 

What choice would you make? 1776 the tree of liberty or Kate and Williams clownish taxpayer founded circus?

[ginnyfizz]

 

And don't think i'am "anti-british" because there are many british who also wan't a real republic and bring the royals down. How can i be anti-british for attacking a german family that use british people as bloodbags and canon fodder?.. that makes no sense. Looks like people that have nothing left to be proud on, they see a attack against that was is left as a attack against themself. And ofcourse tribal thinking is everywhere still very similar.

 

 

I want a first, a secound and all of the other Amendments. And the people that wrote them fight a war against these royal f***s. because they are tyrannical. Thats the nature of a king, they want always more, more power. And they become paranoid, and then they arrest people. They send their townguard to arrest everyone that wouldn't pay for their parasitic, decadent, livestyle.

 

What choice would you make? 1776 the tree of liberty or Kate and Williams clownish taxpayer founded circus?

 

You really are totally delusional and you have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about. I think you might have been either playing too many video games or watching bad movies. Town guard, LMAO. The British Monarchy has moved a very long way since 1776. It is a constitutional monarchy with absolutely no prospect of becoming tyrannical since it has no actual power. And I hate to disappoint you, but the Republican movement in Britain is tiny.

 

Go learn some post 1776 history and read a few copies of constitutional law books and Hansard (that will keep you occupied for a while) and inform yourself before making absurd and unfounded assertions. Your outdated Marxist revolutionary views are really terrifically entertaining (note another British trait there, sarcasm), but you just look silly. When in hole, stop digging old chap.

 

And just to really cheer you up...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

 

And in tribute to the nation that gave us a bloody nose...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAYPN-1Yjt0&NR=1

[JimboUK]

your anti-Britishness lying down

I'am anti-british because i'am against a german royal family, that took another name during world war one, before the peasents perceive that they were sacrificed in a war stagend by the nobility on both sides?

Thats anti-british? Is the obedient to a inbreeding bunch of parasitic gangsters that, was a british define as british? Chearleading them when they spend british taxmoney for partys with saudi princes and other tyrannical, blood sucking human garbage?

I tought it was scared when i was in london a few years ago and there were surveillance cameras even on the public toilet, but to see this town during the wedding, that was scary. It looked like north-korea, with pictures and flaggs everywhere.

What a stupide reasoning.

 

For example, the Governor General of Canada, being the Queen's representative(meaning puppet), suspended the Canadian Parliament in 2008(also 2009 and 2011) at the request of the elected Prime Minister, due to a rebellion within the coalition making it impossible to govern(meaning to rule over the peasants). It is a convention for the British Prime Minister, when he decides to go to the country and call a General Election, to request the Queen to dissolve Parliament.

* added by autor

 

They would probably have got mauled by an irate crowd, trampled by the horses or even shot by the police and military marksmen had they got close, so they were safer locked up.

You mean something like this could happen? Peasant riots?

 

Look at their friends they invite.

Royal wedding guest list causes controversy

"This guest list reads like a 'Who's Who' of tyrants and their cronies," said Republic chief Graham Smith.

 

Man this is so crazy.

 

Hey, if will live in tyranny, finde, pay for these inbreeders, fine. But i want freedom,. And don't think i'am "anti-british" because there are many british who also wan't a real republic and bring the royals down. How can i be anti-british for attacking a german family that use british people as bloodbags and canon fodder?.. that makes no sense. Looks like people that have nothing left to be proud on, they see a attack against that was is left as a attack against themself. And ofcourse tribal thinking is everywhere still very similar.

 

 

I want a first, a secound and all of the other Amendments. And the people that wrote them fight a war against these royal f***s. because they are tyrannical. Thats the nature of a king, they want always more, more power. And they become paranoid, and then they arrest people. They send their townguard to arrest everyone that wouldn't pay for their parasitic, decadent, livestyle.

 

What choice would you make? 1776 the tree of liberty or Kate and Williams clownish taxpayer founded circus?

 

Lets get one thing straight, what happens with British taxpayers money is nothing to do with anyone but British taxpayers. Personally I'd rather it was spent on a wedding that people up and down the country enjoyed rather than thrown into that black hole otherwise known as the E.U. The rest of your post is so ignorant and ill-informed that it's best ignored. I will give you one bit of free advice, if you want to see a looming tyranny then stop looking at European royalty at start looking towards Brussels.

[HeyYou]

Or the United States. :D

[JimboUK]

Or the United States. :D

 

and in one deft move the thread is bought back on topic will minimal casualties and loss of life. :thumbsup:

[HeyYou]

The fact that flushing your toilet when cops are at your door, now qualifies as "probable cause" to break in and search the premises is just a tad scarey...... Edited May 25, 2011 by HeyYou