Imageshare Showcases/Story work

[JimboUK]

Limiting the number of images would certainly help but Premium members have the ability to upload ten and it's something they've paid for, maybe another way of dealing with it is to have a cooldown period between posting images, not being able to upload a second image right away would see off some of the spammers, that would give newer posters more time before the image is buried.

[Anataron]

I might be wrong; but as far as I recall the amount of uploads or the Like is not tied in with Premium as it is right now - all that is tied in is DL speed capacity; PM capacity; access to sup side; acess to prem servers and more customize options for the display of images on 1 page .. as I can't recall any upload limits being in place right now concerning numbr of images per day and can't find it with a quick scan over the "premium what you get page" (edit: for reference; this page: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/users/premium/?) so in my memory a premium member didn't pay for extended upload of images and I think that wouldn't be a good way to deal with the "open" image share .. maybe make it so that prem/sup get 2 uploads a day 1 sup side 1 normal side to keep in line with their current benefits .. :wink: All that said I might be wrong in remembering that little detail .. edit: especially considering that I rarely if ever upload more than 2 on the same day ..

 

Edit again .. gosh; gotta keep those edits in check: And regardless - even if there is a limit I never noticed; which honestly might be the case .. I'd say if the "members" are restricted to X number of images - lower than it might currently be - I think prem should be regardless of what it was previously at most X times 2 to keep in line with current regulations .. or else it would turn into un-balanced regulations so to speak - which in turn could be read as a "this change was only implemented as a way to make premium more appealing"

Edited March 4, 2016 by Anataron

[JimboUK]

I might be wrong; but as far as I recall the amount of uploads or the Like is not tied in with Premium as it is right now - all that is tied in is DL speed capacity; PM capacity; access to sup side; acess to prem servers and more customize options for the display of images on 1 page .. as I can't recall any upload limits being in place right now concerning numbr of images per day and can't find it with a quick scan over the "premium what you get page" (edit: for reference; this page: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/users/premium/?) so in my memory a premium member didn't pay for extended upload of images and I think that wouldn't be a good way to deal with the "open" image share .. maybe make it so that prem/sup get 2 uploads a day 1 sup side 1 normal side to keep in line with their current benefits .. :wink: All that said I might be wrong in remembering that little detail ..

 

The fact remains that one of the perks of Premium membership is the ability to upload ten images and any attempt to change that will understandably see people bring that up, it's mentioned here by the way http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/176453-daily-limit-on-image-share-uploads/?p=1519390

 

I'd be in favour of a limit like that, it would certainly raise the overall quality and give newer posters more exposure by slowing the whole thing down, but there will be people who bought Premium for the extra uploads. I think if more people got decent exposure then you'd see more variety in the top images, that's why I suggested a cooldown period, no one can complain that they're having a perk taken away but it would stop those people who dump a load of images at once and they're the ones causing the problem, another option would be to only have one image per user show in a 24 hour period, any other images uploaded could be embedded or linked to from the page for that one image.

[Anataron]

Thanks for that Link and the Correction of my Statement - honestly didn't know it - but now that it is brought up here - maybe another suggestion: add it to the benefits on the overview page you are taken to on the Main Site; just as a suggestion? :wink:

 

From what I can gather from the first post of Dark0ne there it seems that the benefit for Premium is simply a double of non-premium .. as in 5 images for members; 10 images for premium. So while corrected on the Information concerning the current limit I still would say Premium would have to be adjusted acordingly - keeping with the same ratio - so if members get a new limit of 1 instead of 5 the limit should be reduced for premium to 2 instead of 10; still a 1:2 ratio for premium; still the same "benefit" they had before over members but without the possibility of "members" bringing up that the change was only implemented as a means to encourage to buy Premium from the Nexus Staff side. Maybe extend premium a bit more to accomondate for the Supporter Side aswell - so 2normal/2sup instead of 10 total for Premium and 1 normal instead of 5 total for members .. (of course only example numbers). At least in my opinion; might be biased as neither way would influence me at all as I very rarely even upload more than 1 image a day anyways.

 

However I do like the concept of a cooldown aswell; might again be biased as it doesn't affect me personally in any way; as it is many that post several images per day do so within a very short amount of time; which indeed is the "most obvious/direct" increase in flow causing some images to be overlooked; especially for new users that have not a lot of people already tracking them.

 

Once again thank you for going to the length of search that Thread and linking it; very much appreciated - the more one knows and all that.

Edited March 4, 2016 by Anataron

[tetrodoxin]

Just stumbled upon this thread and wanted to add some more thoughts and ideas. I'm bad at explaining so I visualized my ideas.

Now I know that the overhaul might still take a while, and I couldn't possibly know if you guys are working on a completely new layout and design for Nexus, that's why I applied my ideas on the current system.

These ideas are far from perfect, but maybe there's something useful for you guys.

 

 

 

 

 

[wolfgrimdark]

Just stumbled upon this thread and wanted to add some more thoughts and ideas. I'm bad at explaining so I visualized my ideas.

Now I know that the overhaul might still take a while, and I couldn't possibly know if you guys are working on a completely new layout and design for Nexus, that's why I applied my ideas on the current system.

These ideas are far from perfect, but maybe there's something useful for you guys.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You put a lot of thought into this. Frankly I like it a lot - very nice overhaul :)

[RatherWindy]

My question would be,.. what is the need for/ thought behind a top images section ??

Has it proven to add any value to the viewing experience ? ,,,,

Why not get rid of it all together ??

If there is a big need to be named/rewarded as an extraodinary person why not create a category for most active endorser, or commenter.

Categories that praises the amount of appreciation you show others instead of recognition for your own work.

You can get that from comments or endorsements,..

[marmotte]

First, i give my opinion on the presentation of the sets and stories.

Actually, i don't like very much the presentation of the sets. The presentation is too much basic. Texts, music and images could have a better presentation. I propose a "musical slideshow". A sort of small video where we can include images, gifs and music. With this solution all images could fit perfectly with the music. A site with 10 000 000 members deserve a real improvement on this point. The section image is important for nexus i think. Skyrim is old but members are always very active.

 

About top and endorsements. It's difficult. A top image create competition and competition create a ranking and a ranking create of course a first, a second, a third, etc...

A ranking is not bad, but actually does the ranking system highlight the most creative, or the best technique or the best art ?

You are the judge.

 

So, i think the best solution is to remove completly the top image and endorsements. Just sharing for pleasure. Comments will be welcome. I think negative comments should be allowed. In my case i like negative comments. It help me to improve and to correct some mistakes. People don't have enough contructives comments.

Edited March 15, 2016 by marmotte

[Heaventhere]

I will be honest I had decided I would stay out of this conversation , not because I do not feel any passion for it but maybe because I feel to much passion for it but can not help reading the comments and well I have a view so will say it. I think that we all like to see our shots in the top slot , its nice to know someone else liked what you found beautiful or a special moment in your game but at the moment there are 100s of shots that pass by and no one does a thing but look at them, I have spent hours going though shots, page after page after page that had 2 endorsements.

 

Great shots, in fact better then most on the top images but they had two favs, why, they were unknown, new, shy, maybe a bit of a loner but they wanted to show off their game, their char who in their eyes is as beautiful as we think our are. They wanted someone, maybe just one person to say "omg what amazing eyes" or " Oh now that armor is perfect on her." "can really see him riding though the forest in that" words of kindness, to show them that what they saw is saw by others. Main reason I do not post often here anymore and those who know me know I used to post daily but I saw what had once been a great idea fall in the pit.

 

I never look at top images anymore, why I know who will be there, not that their shots are not worthy, some are amazing, truly lovely. I do not check because I can see as good if not better on the regular image share on any day. I have a rule if I open a shot I fav it, if I liked it enough to open it something drew me, some days I look at the site and only do my friends, life is fast and sometimes way to busy to comment on each shot, do I wish I had time yes, oh yes I wish I could take hours every day and favorite and comment on every new shot, show the new screen archers that we as a community do care , that we are so happy they came to join us. Give each one I comment on the encouragement they deserve.

 

Take the time to look and comment on what I liked , what I did not like, what pulled me that shot, as each tell a story, if not about the game then about the person who took it. About their day, about them. Do I care if they forgot to turn off hud, no , as to be honest some people have no idea how. Do care its not perfect , hell no, in fact its the ones sometimes where its a little off I smile at the most and find the good in that shot to show the author that I saw that good.

 

We have some amazing screen archers in our community but we also have even more important some amazing people do work their asses off to give praise to each and every shot they can.

 

I think marmotte is so very right , it should be ok to have constructive comments, not rude, but why not be able to say what we like and dislike!!

 

We, and no fingers pointed, no names called or no persons named, we are all guilty in some way as to what has happened to this image site, we either endorsed the ones who took over , we are one of them, we sat here and kept our mouths shut or we just walked away instead of standing up and saying we were unhappy with how our community was ending up. The image share is about sharing, its about sharing a part of each of us with each other. So its time we all came together and worked together to come up with idea's that will rock Robins socks off, ones that he will want to have on his site to make it what it should be.

 

Now I will step down from my soap box , and say I am sorry I got carried away but hey you who know me, know I sometimes just have to say what I feel :)

[JimboUK]

 

I think marmotte is so very right , it should be ok to have constructive comments, not rude, but why not be able to say what we like and dislike!!

 

 

 

Constructive criticism is allowed but few people understand what that is and I rarely see any in the imageshares, instead of helpful comments about lighting, composition and that sort of thing you get worthless opinions on the subject matter.

 

As for telling people that you dislike their image, why would you want to do that? like or dislike is purely subjective, "I like that" is a positive thing, it can encourage the author to do more, "I don't like that" is the opposite, it's negative and may well discourage some people. As someone with 2000+ images here I've been on the receiving end of just about every type of comment from the positive to the downright abusive and "I don't like this" is one of the most annoying, it tells me nothing. I don't care whether an individual likes something or not so why tell me? I'm not going to convince someone to like something that they don't like and I'm sure as hell am not going to change what I do to please one person so the comment serves no purpose.