Bush and Operation 9-11

[Incanus]

Well, since Peregrine took the liberty of closing the "Afghanistan, Iraq..." thread, I thought I'd just start a new one.

 

Regarding Peregrine's ugly snap about "facts" versus "conspiracy theory", I would, before posting some facts, like to hear Peregrine's thesis on the difference between the efforts made by so-called "conspiracy theorists", and those made by professional investigators.

 

Now for a couple of the facts:

 

The Project for the New American Century is the roadmap that the Bush Administration follows. It is a project that started in 1997 with Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, and a handful of other Jews and pro-Zionist Christian fanatics, like Gary Bauer. I will quote one of the PNAC documents entitled "Rebuilding Americas Defenses", which can be found at http://www.newamericancentury.org.

 

the (greatly desired) process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.

 

The Israeli lobby has many "thinktanks" that provide future advisors to the various administrations, both Republican and Democrat. During the Clinton Administration, the Israeli lobby provided officials from the Washington Institute for Near East Policy like Martin Indyk. During the Bush Jr Administration, many of the officials the Israeli lobby provided are from their Republican "thinktanks," like the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA).

 

Jews in the Bush Administration

 

Norman Podhoretz himself admits(in his book ‘The Prophets’) to being a Jew who does not observe Jewish Law

 

Paul Wolfowitz : Jew, Close connections with Israeli military, and an Israeli citizen. see “An Open Letter to Paul Wolfowitz”, member of the Frank Pollard Israeli spy-ring,

 

Elliott Abrams : Jew, Iran-Contra Convicted felon pardoned by G.H.W Bush

 

Gary Bauer created a Jewish/Evangelical-Christian alliance group (see “Gary Bauer Alliance of Jews and Christians”, and Ten Commandments for Making Money by Rabbi Lapin), signatory of the Zionist Organization of America’s letter to Bush calling on him to NOT support the creation of a Palestinian state in the Palestinian homeland.

 

William J. Bennett : fraud convict, family-values hypocrite, signatory of the Zionist Organization of America’s letter to Bush calling on him to NOT support the creation of a Palestinian state in the Palestinian homeland.

 

%&$! Cheney : his chief of staff is I. Lewis Libby(Jewish Zionist) See Photos of Cheney bowing in front of Ariel Sharon during his 2002 visit to Israel.

 

Eliot A. Cohen : Jew, frequently demonizes Islam in writings,

 

Richard Perle : Israeli Agent expelled from a Senator’s office in the 1970’s for espionage and treasonous acts, member of the Frank Pollard Israeli spy-ring,

 

I. Lewis Libby, longtime associate of Wolfowitz and defense attorney for a convicted Israeli spy Mark Rich, who was pardoned by Clinton in his last days in office.

 

Ari Fleischer : Israeli citizen, co-president of an extremist organization’s lobby group in Washington that has hateful views of non-Jews(Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics)

 

Midge Decter : Jew, proponent of long-term presence in Middle East to “democratize” it.

 

Frank Gaffney : Jew, Reagan era Defense Department leftover, member of the Frank Pollard Israeli spy-ring, a Kissinger favorite

 

Fred Ikle : Washington’s “go-to” man in the Israeli/Washington drug trafficking trade

 

Donald Kagan : Jew and fellow Yale pundit

 

Zalmay Khalilzad : Brzezinski protégé’, Bush 41 henchman on Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan. Formerly in love with the Taliban, he turn-coated on his own Afghani people who had fought the Soviets for 10 years. A failure as an advisor during Reagan/Bush 41 years, likes playing games for oil and destruction.

 

1). Douglas Feith----Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon. He is a close associate of Perle and served as his Special Counsel. Like Perle and the others, Feith is a pro-Israel extremist, who has advocated anti-Arab policies in the past. He is closely associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America, which even attacks Jews that don't agree with its extremist views. Feith frequently speaks at ZOA conferences. Feith runs a small law firm, Feith and Zell, which only has one International office, in Israel. The majority of their legal work is representing Israeli interests. His firm's own website stated, prior to his appointment, that Feith "represents Israeli Armaments Manufacturer." Feith basically represents the Israeli War Machine. Feith also came from the Jewish thinktank JINSA. Feith, like Perle and Wolfowitz, are campaigning hard for this Israeli proxy war against Iraq.

 

 

2). Edward Luttwak----Member of the National Security Study Group of the Department of Defence at the Pentagon. Luttwak is reportedly an Israeli citizen and has taught in Israel. He frequently writes for Israeli and pro-Israeli newspapers and journals. Luttwak is an Israeli extremist whose main theme in many of his articles is the necessity of the U.S. waging war against Iraq.

 

 

3). Henry Kissinger-----One of many Pentagon Advisors, Kissinger sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle. For detailed information about Kissinger's evil past, read Seymour Hersch's book (Price of Power: Kissinger in the Nixon White House). Kissinger likely had a part in the Watergate crimes, Southeast Asia mass murders (Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos), Installing Chilean mass murdering dictator Pinochet, Operation Condor's mass killings in South America, and more recently served as Serbia's Ex-Dictator Slobodan Milosevic's Advisor. He consistently advocates going to war against Iraq. Kissinger is the Ariel Sharon of the U.S. Unfortunately, President Bush nominated Kissinger as chairman of the September 11 investigating commission. It's like picking a bank robber to investigate a fraud scandal.

 

4). Dov Zakheim----Under Secretary of Defense, Comptroller, and Chief Financial Officer (CFO) for the Department of Defense. He is an ordained rabbi and reportedly holds Israeli citizenship. Zakheim attended attended Jew's College in London and became an ordained Orthodox Jewish Rabbi in 1973. He was adjunct professor at New York's Jewish Yeshiva University. Zakheim is close to the Israeli lobby.

 

 

5). Kenneth Adelman-----One of many Pentagon Advisors, Adelman also sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle, and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor, who supports going to war against Iraq. Adelman frequently is a guest on Fox News, and often expresses extremist and often ridiculus anti-Arab and anti-Muslim views. Through his hatred or stupidity, he actually called Arabs "anti-Semitic" on Fox News (11/28/2001), when he could have looked it up in the dictionary to find out that Arabs by definition are Semites.

 

11). Marc Grossman-----Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. He was Director General of the Foreign Service and Director of Human Resources at the Department of State. Grossman is one of many of the pro-Israel Jewish officials from the Clinton Administration that Bush has promoted to higher posts.

 

 

12). Richard Haass-----Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at large. He is also Director of National Security Programs and Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the first Bush (Sr) Administration who sat on the National Security Council, and who consistently advocates going to war against Iraq. Haass is also a member of the Defense Department's National Security Study Group, at the Pentagon.

 

 

13). Robert Zoellick-----U.S. Trade Representative, a cabinet-level position. He is also one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq and occupying a portion of the country in order to set up setting up a Vichy-style puppet government. He consistently advocates going to war against Iraq.

 

15). James Schlesinger-----One of many Pentagon Advisors, Schlesinger also sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor, who supports going to war against Iraq. Schlesinger is also a commissioner of the Defense Department's National Security Study Group, at the Pentagon.

 

 

16). David Frum-----White House speechwriter behind the "Axis of Evil" label. He lumps together all the lies and accusations against Iraq for Bush to justify the war.

 

 

17). Joshua Bolten----White House Deputy Chief of Staff, Bolten was previously a banker, former legislative aide, and prominent in the Jewish community.

 

 

18). John Bolton----Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security. Bolton is also a Senior Advisor to President Bush. Prior to this position, Bolton was Senior Vice President of the above mentioned pro-Israel thinktank, AEI. He recently (October 2002) accused Syria of having a nuclear program, so that they can attack Syria after Iraq. He must have forgotten that Israel has 400 nuclear warheads, some of which are thermonuclear weapons (according to a recent U.S. Air Force report).

 

 

19). David Wurmser----Special Assistant to John Bolton (above), the under-secretary for arms control and international security. Wurmser also worked at the AEI with Perle and Bolton. His wife, Meyrav Wurmser, along with Colonel Yigal Carmon, formerly of Israeli military intelligence, co-founded the Middle East Media Research Institute (Memri),a Washington-based Israeli outfit which distributes articles translated from Arabic newspapers portraying Arabs in a bad light.

 

 

20). Eliot Cohen-----Member of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor. Like Adelman, he often expresses extremist and often ridiculus anti-Arab and anti-Muslim views. More recently, he wrote an opinion article in the Wall Street Journal openly admitting his rascist hatred of Islam claiming that Islam should be the enemy, not terrorism.

 

 

21). Mel Sembler-----President of the Export-Import Bank of the United States. A Prominent Jewish Republican and Former National Finance Chairman of the Republican National Committee. The Export-Import Bank facilitates trade relationships between U.S. businesses and foreign countries, specifically those with financial problems.

 

 

22). Michael Chertoff ----Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, at the Justice Department.

 

 

23). Steve Goldsmith----Senior Advisor to the President, and Bush's Jewish domestic policy advisor. He also serves as liaison in the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (White House OFBCI) within the Executive Office of the President. He was the former mayor of Indianapolis. He is also friends with Israeli Jerusalem Mayor Ehud Olmert and often visits Israel to coach mayors on privatization initiatives.

 

 

24). Adam Goldman-----White House's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community.

 

 

25). Joseph Gildenhorn-----Bush Campaign's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community. He was the DC finance chairman for the Bush campaign, as well as campaign coordinator, and former ambassador to Switzerland.

 

 

26). Christopher Gersten-----Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families at HHS. Gersten was the former Executive Director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, Husband of Labor Secretary, Linda Chavez, and reportedly very pro-Israel. Their children are being raised Jewish.

 

 

27). Mark Weinberger-----Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Tax Policy.

 

 

28). Samuel Bodman-----Deputy Secretary of Commerce. He was the Chairman and CEO of Cabot Corporation in Boston, Massachusetts.

 

 

29). Bonnie Cohen-----Under Secretary of State for Management.

 

 

30). Ruth Davis-----Director of Foreign Service Institute, who reports to the Office of Under Secretary for Management. This Office is responsible for training all Department of State staff (including ambassadors).

 

 

31). Lincoln Bloomfield-----Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs.

 

 

32). Jay Lefkowitz-----General Counsel of the Office of Budget and Management.

 

 

33). Ken Melman-----White House Political Director.

 

34). Brad Blakeman------White House Director of Scheduling.

 

As far as Peregrines snide remark about "growing up", I have serious doubts that your IQ or your literacy level are quite what mine are. I would respond with "grow up and start asking serious questions, and don't give up until you arrive at the facts."

 

 

;)

[ThetaOrionis01]

Harassing a moderator and trolling are an express ticket towards an IP ban.

 

 

Are you objecting to the religion or the politics of the people you listed? If the former, please take your anti-semitism elsewhere. If the latter, please work on your language skills and learn to express yourself better.

 

As for intelligence - I'm afraid re-posting the same thread over and over again does not say much for yours.

 

Thread locked.

[Daerk]

Incanus, your views are skewed by your sources.

 

Firstly, as someone in the administration/security industry, I take note of a comment you made concerning Kissinger. Just to let you know, the very BEST security one can purchase is the security provided by the best villian in the industry.

 

Banks regularly hire bank robbers to consult with them to further secure their organizations. It works.

 

Secondly, although a majority of the persons you have listed do participate in government issues and public issues that are closely Jewish related, none of what you have posted can be defined as a "conspiracy".

 

A conspiracy theory (which is what you are attempting to describe in your post) consists of a large array of facts with nodal points being drawn between the array of seemingly incongruous information to form a logical structure that is conductive of an intelligence having designed such a structure. I was a CTI (Crypto-Logic/Linguist Technical Interpreter) in the US Navy. It was my job to leaf through thousands of bits of seemingly irrelevant data to ascertain such structures and governmental or military plans and convey my results to a higher command. I do not see such a structure of conspiracy in the information you have listed.

 

Given unbiased facts I could possibly develop a loosely organized structure of affiliates attempting to profit the Jewish peoples and religion, however it would be loosely organized and not capable of extreme manipulations in goverments, religions, societies, or media.

 

Given your choice of wording in your post, Incanus, I can deem that you are coming from either a biased perspective, or have gathered your information from biased sources and not bothered to research an unbiased source. This bias is what is being deemed unsocial and anti-Semitic by our forum members and moderators. It is inflammatory in nature and has been worded with a degree of disrespect that strikes of Neo-Nazi Propaganda.

 

I do not see anything deserving of a Strike on your forum record concerning the content of your post, however due to your response to the locking of your initial post I do see a deserved Strike for disrespect of a Moderator, flaming a Moderator, and attempting to incite a flame war. I will negate one of the Strikes that has been placed on your forum record (at this point, you have 2 applied) and validate the initial recommended Strike.

 

Please attempt in the future to debate with unbiased perspective, and post non-inflammatory content, making sure to have correctly researched the sources.

 

If you restructure your proposed Conspiracy Theory, I will be glad to permit it posted in a new thread given you follow the above stated guidelines.

 

-- D