Mages Quild Quests

[StanIsTheLaw]

I am playing using OOO, Weye, bartholm and a few other minor quests.

 

However, early in the game before I completed all Mages Guild recommendations I somehow picked up a mages staff. At the time I did not take notice of the fact that I got the mages staff complete quest notice. I ended up accidentally selling the staff.

 

Many days down the track, I have completed all mages guild recommendations and went to Raminus and he welcomed me to the guild, promoted me then keeps saying arn't you supposed to be getting a mages staff without referring me to wellspring cave. I have tried everything, using console to initiate the quest, then stages etc but everytime I go back he says the same thing. I added the incomplete staff by console and no joy. I added the staff by console no joy. Have been through wellspring that many times it's not funny. I find the mage on the island after console opening the door and nothing happens, no incomplete staff, nothin, just Raminus saying arn't you supposed to be looking for that staff. I did not enter Wellspring before I went to Raminus. I tried quest stages before entering the cave and during and nothing. It carries on like the quest is not initiated or finished.

 

But it means that I con no longer do any more mages quests.

 

Any help welocmed with many thanks.

[HeyYou]

Try typing this in the console:

 

getstage MG08MagesStaff

 

See what it says. If you have the unfinished staff, go see Delmar, and see what he has to say. (provided stage is 40)

 

You could always do:

 

setstage MG08MagesStaff 100 to hopefully complete the quest, and be able to move on.

[StanIsTheLaw]

Thanks for the information.

 

I tried what you suggested and a couple of other things. Unfortunately according to UespWiki and my previous experience, seems like once a quest is shown as complete, it is very unlikely to undo. The problem is that Raminus won't give me new quests for some reason, probably because a trigger was missed, killing the necromacers on the island (UESP Wiki). The quest value is 100, I tried resetting to 0, 10, 20, 22, 30 and 100 and it does not work.

 

Pretty sure I picked up the mages staff accidentally from a companion I recruited. The person who made that mod should not have given the NPC a mages staff, rather another type of staff. The moment I put it in my inventory the qest completed, even though I had not completed the mages guild recommendations.

 

Another game down the drain because of quest problems (sigh).

 

Thanks again for your advice

[David Brasher]

Quest stages only go up and never down. If you are at quest stage 100, it is impossible to reset to stage 20 or any other stage.

 

I am a bit fuzzy on how this works:

StopQuest MG08MagesStaff

 

This was executed as a result script of:

 

SetStage MG08MagesStaff 100

 

When StopQuest executes, I believe it prevents new dialog from a quest from being used, but old dialog that has already been used seems to still be available.

 

This dialog info:

 

You should be out acquiring a Mage's Staff for yourself. What do you need?

 

only has two conditions:

GetIsID RaminusPolus == 1 &&
GetStage MG08MageStaff >= 10

It appears to frozen there. The conditions are always true for your present character. This seems to me like shoddy quest-coding. Like they should have put one more condition on it to make it be false sometimes.

 

So I recommend that you construct a corrupt savegame fix mod that consists of one edit. Make the conditions like this:

 

GetIsID RaminusPolus == 1 &&
GetStage MG08MageStaff < 10 

 

and with your corrupt savegame, the computer should start drawing from MG09 GREETINGS instead of the outdated MG08 GREETINGS.

[StanIsTheLaw]

Firstly, thanks ever so much for helping me.

 

However, I have done no scripting except for changing a few values. So I read the tutorial at Wiki and made this script. However, I get an error on line 3, "expected end of line, script not saved."

 

ScriptName FixMageQuestScript

Begin OnActivate

GetIsID RaminusPolus == 1 &&

GetStage MG08MageStaff < 10

End

 

The problems with this quest highlights the major weakness in Oblivion IMHO. So many questlines are dependant on finishing the previous quest, but so many quests can be interrupted without you knowing it. This is the 3rd major game for me where a quest line has ended and really takes the enjoyment out of the game. This game i started checking UESP Wiki before entering any new location just to check and see if it is quest related, if so I do not enter. Even so I now find another major quest line aborted. So annoying :-(

 

Thanks in advance if you can point out my error above.

[David Brasher]

In this case, you won't actually write a script using the little pencil icon. What you will be doing is changing one comparator in a dialog info from ">=" to "<."

 

So to get to the dialog info follow this path:

 

CS Main Window > Quest Icon (Looks like a black letter "Q") > EditorID in the left hand column > MG08MagesStaff> Editor ID in second column from the left > GREETING > Info > Fifth line down "You should be out acquiring a Mage's Staff for yourself. What do you need?" > Conditions at the bottom of the screen > On the condition on the second line, change the ">=" to "<."

[StanIsTheLaw]

David Brasher, I knight thee in honour of your great service :wink:

 

It worked. I at least got past that stage. I had to do an additional step of setstage MG09Motives 10, but now I have the instructions to go to Skingrad. :thumbsup:

 

Thanks ever so much for your help.