Failed tests

[Marcus Wolfe]

I remember binary consists of 4 lights, which can be turned on or off. They go up to nine, and I remember that one is on off off off. I think two is off on off off.

 

Games aren't made in Binary? I'm not surprised. Isn't Binary used to control robots and exclusively for that purpose?

[Abramul]

Yeah man, if you can't learn decent english grammar, how the hell are you going to learn Binary? Recite binary, now!!! If not, I will never believe you are skilled.....

And why would he care if you think he's skilled? Also, spelling and grammar have nothing to do with a bunch of ones and zeros. The spelling and grammar come in with the quest and dialog writing. No one would want to play a game, go up to a person and have them say, " Helo! im glad 2 meat u!" The game would flop instantly.

Note that I did specify English spelling and grammar. An error made while writing code will likely cause said code to fail to compile, or, even worse, to compile, but function incorrectly.

One more thing, if you plan to go into gaming, you still need an education. You can't possibly make a game all by yourself. You'll need to join a current game company like Bethesda, EA, Capcom, etc. They'd much rather hire someone with a collage education that someone who dropped out of high school.

Incorrect.

And just so you know, games aren't made in binary.

Games aren't made in Binary? I'm not surprised.

Generally, a program will be written in a high-level language, and may then be optimized using a lower-level language. However, the end product will ultimately be machine code.

Isn't Binary used to control robots and exclusively for that purpose?

From Wikipedia, bold added:

The binary numeral system, or base-2 number system, is a numeral system that represents numeric values using two symbols, usually 0 and 1. More specifically, the usual base-2 system is a positional notation with a radix of 2. Owing to its straightforward implementation in electronic circuitry, the binary system is used internally by virtually all modern computers.

 

I remember binary consists of 4 lights, which can be turned on or off. They go up to nine, and I remember that one is on off off off. I think two is off on off off.

You're thinking of Binary-coded decimal, which is merely a convenience for humans used to base-10. Also, see "Bit endianness"

[Peregrine]

Peregrin, unless u have been living under a rock 4 the past 20 years I could get ALOT more salary from games design/programming than I ever could with chemicals, I mean look at Bill Gates he was probably one of those fat nerds that spent there entire life in the games workshop!... now he's one of the richest people alive!!!! :ohmy: and look at John Romero he co-founded Doom for crying out loud!!!! He was practicaly responsable for the birth of modern gaming!!!!! So I think i'll ditch the periodic table and pick up the binary code... :happy:

 

1) People like Bill Gates are a very rare exception to the rule, and they're found in any industry. We're talking about "winning the lottery" levels of rarity. Even if you have some amazing new innovation to offer (and I doubt you do), it is very unlikely that you will ever see that kind of money. More likely, you will get a job in an office somewhere doing low-level coding. It probably won't even be in the game industry, there are a lot more people trying to get those jobs than anyone will hire, so your odds are extremely poor. Why do you think I'm not trying to get into the game industry? I know a lot about games (including the math and logic behind their rule systems, which I doubt you understand), I'm a decent 3d artist, and with some more experience, I could easily do the job. But what am I going to school for? Aerospace engineering, and a comfortable paycheck right out of college. Because unlike you, I'm not dumb enough to throw away a consistent and profitable career path for one where I'll be lucky to even pay my bills. Sure, do game design on the side, but you're an absolute ****ing idiot if you give up everything else to do it.

 

2) Your contempt for proper writing is just as relevant in the game industry as anywhere else. How do you think you're going to get people to invest in your new company? How do you think you're going to impress anyone enough to hire you? Expect to do massive amounts of writing, and if it doesn't look good, you're screwed. Even in my area, with its focus on math and science, writing skill is mandatory. Literature might be ignored, but you are expected to be able to write at a professional level. Expect this to be true anywhere in the real world, if you start using "u" and "4", your credibility is instantly gone. If I saw something with your kind of writing, I'd throw it in the trash unread and fire the person responsible. Expect your future boss to do the same.

[Vagrant0]

Indeed. Even jobs that are primarily manual labor are getting to the point where some college is required to even have you considdered for the position unless you have a long term work record in a related operation (which you would need to get hired in the first place). College education isn't really so much saying that you're smart, or capable at the job, in most fields, all it really says is that you can be committed to completing something which isn't forced onto you (like highschool). Without proof that you can actually stick to something long enough, nobody of consequence will hire you. If you're interested in anything videogame related, you will need college courses in things related to the field, like art, marketing, design because those things are a major part in even playtesting. As far as coding goes, you would need to take courses in logic, computer science, several math courses, maybe even some logistics. Even if you decide to work for yourself, you better have a business degree and have a well structured business plan unless you like living on the street. All this comes way before anything such as your own personal creativity comes into play. Without credentials, even gifted people end up a bum or working in some factory, letting their talents go to waste.

 

As far as ability goes, being able to mod a game isn't all that difficult. The fact that Bethsoft's construction set is rather easy to use makes it even more so. The story becomes very different when you're building everything from scratch. In modding, most of the code and hard work is already done, you just need to piece stuff together, compare the skill needed to arrange building blocks from what is needed to make those blocks from a tree... Here's a hint, a toddler can only do one. You better believe that everyone Bethsoft hires has atleast a 4 year degree. Coders would also have to have significant background in the base coding language or the software, as well as some familiarity with the company's tools. Simply put, just because you can use the CS like a pro doesn't mean jack. Without the proper credentials and a good presentation of your abilities, you wouldn't even be given a second thought. People who are more skiled are more useful than those who have few, and specific skills.

[Vagrant0]

damnit!!! I dunno any binary but I can learn (possibly) also I CAN speak english its just quicker 2 use abbreviation's and online slang.

 

And as for the programmer bit I was just messing with ideas, my real prospects lie in psychology/metaphysical studies.

 

Btw, has anyone noticed that Peregrin is a complete P**ck I mean come on!!! talk about king of the flaming!!!! :wacko:

First, nobody uses binary any more. It's still the basis for coding, and you still kinda have to know how it works, as well as all the systems that are based around it, but most programing for end user products is word (think java, C++) based. Regardless, you still need to have alot of certifications for anyone to even bother reading your resume.

 

Second, there is no metaphysical studies... atleast not any that are taken seriously by anyone within the scientific community. And Psychology is very loosly connected, if only because humans are involved. Psychology itself isn't really saying much since there are plenty of different fields that fall under psychology, most of them requiring patience, understanding, diligence, tolerance, and a willingness to read alot of worthless research if only to somehow create meaning from it to write your own 20-30 page summaries within a given topic. Nevermind the intellectual raping you have to endure to get a doctorate. And, you have to get a doctorate to really do anything that can make money, unless you like social work.

 

Third, if you think Peregrine is bad, you have another thing coming. I've had professors who have been known to bring students to tears, shred their final reports (many pages long), fail them, then question why said student is wasting the professors time just because they forgot a coversheet or because the margins/font weren't to the professors specifications. And they aren't doing anything unusual. In the real world, if you're trying to convince someone into believing something, any mistake, however small can be the difference between getting through to them or not. One mistake can also destroy any credibility in research, and may even have your cretifications stripped if it's big enough. As big of a jerk as you, and many other people, may think Peregrine is, he usually has valid points to make. Sure, he could be nicer about it, but sometimes you have to be blunt and tell people how stupid they really are in order for them to even take notice.

[Peregrine]

Blunt... very well then, ahem, I personnaly think that Peregrin is fat F*ck that should be lined up and shot, wait scratch that, should be lined up THEN hung, drawn and quartered THEN shot... >:( >:( >:(

 

Good. I love you too. Though how you propose to "line up" a single point object, I have no idea...

 

And as for metaphysical studies, they are solely for assisting me in psychology which i'll have you know pays EXTREMELY well if you are educated in a reputable university and get jobs with private companies.

 

Again with this big "if". I have two friends who graduated with psychology degrees (undergraduate only, granted) from excellent schools. Guess where they work: one is a cashier in a furniture store, the other works for low pay at a wilderness camp. Getting those well-paying jobs takes a lot of luck and a massive amount of hard work.

 

Btw, if anyone acted like peregrin where I come from then they would be murdered in there sleep

 

Just a friendly warning....

 

Congraulations. Your "friendly warning" is a clear death threat, something the police do not consier a joke. Right now, I am seriously considering reporting this post to the police. Your IP address is on file, as is your email address. Should they decide to investigate your actions, you WILL be found, and you will have a lot of explaining to do.

[Vagrant0]

And as for metaphysical studies, they are solely for assisting me in psychology which i'll have you know pays EXTREMELY well if you are educated in a reputable university and get jobs with private companies.

Yes, that would be a Doctorate degree from one of those universities, Out of a few hundred students, only the best of those are accepted. Let me be blunt. From what I've seen of your posts, and your overall attitude and understanding of the subject, it isn't going to happen. Most people, even those with Doctorate degrees from good universities, end up either teaching psychology, doing meaningless reasearch so that they can continue eating (knowing full well how meaningless their research is) or are working in a position where they aren't even using anything they spent so much time and money to get. The only psychologists who aren't are the very few who are utterly vulking brilliant, or stumble on a case they can exploit for international recognition. And for the record, feel free to prove me wrong, "metaphysical studies" as you put it don't mean a damn thing. If you want to help yourself, might want to start reading about one of the actual fields of psychology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology) and commit the classics to memory.

 

Just for the sake of argument;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of...ysical_sciences

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics

Either know what the hell you're talking about, or don't bother talking about it. Even though it's wikipedia, it's more or less close enough to be valid for this argument.

 

Are you sure you don't mean Philosophy, and not Psychology? Philosophy by the way, as cool as it is, is very worthless on its own.

 

The only way anything metaphysical would be related to Psychology would be if you were planning on selling your soul. In which case, you would first have to find a buyer (demons afford to be picky now a days) and you'd still end up getting screwed over in the end. Ok, in reality, you can't sell your soul to get some sort of reward, that is the stuff of fiction. If you can't tell the difference, God help you.

 

Bottom line is life sucks, for most of us, either you work hard, or you don't eat. Teenagers take drugs because they want to have fun, adults do drugs because it's the only time they can sit down and not have to think about all the poo in their life. Life isn't fair, 5% of the population has 90% of the wealth, and they intend to keep it that way. Getting all pissy about a test, and how it's "so unfair" isn't going to make it any more so. Getting hostile with someone who really only feeds on that hostility only makes you look foolish, and solves nothing. My intent here is not to discourage you, but to give you a wakeup call because you've obviously been doing too much dreaming. While my figures may not always be accurate, the concepts I'm trying to present with those figures are. You're obviously welcome to do the research and prove me wrong, just make sure you cite your sources.

[Switch]

Certain people do a fantastic job of making my work here near intolerable. I really don't know why I bother sometimes. :rolleyes:

 

Heretic, you get your first strike. You've been breaking rules recently and I think you need to learn not to feed the trolls or flame.

 

Peregrine, I'll recommend you for yet another ban. Whether Dark0ne will listen or not we'll have to wait and see.

[Peregrine]

Peregrine, I'll recommend you for yet another ban. Whether Dark0ne will listen or not we'll have to wait and see.

 

Good. I'll recommend you for a ban too.

[leetgamer]

I dont see how a normal player can recommend an admin for a ban. Switch, is it possible, or is peregrine like, special or something?