MarkC9 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Hello,I launched Oblivion today and it suddenly started asking me for the disc. This is after I used OMM to properly install Qatars Texture Pack III. What can I do to get rid of this diagnostic? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Put the disc in the drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Unless you use a download version it will always ask for the disk. The only download version that works properly is the steam version. D2D and the other legal downloadable versions will give problems with any mod that needs OBSE as they do not support OBSE (Not either OBSE team or Bethesda fault - D2D and the others just use extra 'protection'. If you use steam and it is asking for a disk, that is a steam problem. For pirated versions - please take your problem back where you got it as we do not support thieves here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC9 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) Unless you use a download version it will always ask for the disk. The only download version that works properly is the steam version. D2D and the other legal downloadable versions will give problems with any mod that needs OBSE as they do not support OBSE (Not either OBSE team or Bethesda fault - D2D and the others just use extra 'protection'. If you use steam and it is asking for a disk, that is a steam problem. For pirated versions - please take your problem back where you got it as we do not support thieves here.Thank you for the help! Problem solved. I did not say I pirated the game. None the less I will present a completely random scenario to you. A person purchases a game for, say, PS3. They realize the game is infinitely unplayable on this console and decide they prefer to play on PC. PC, where people, including yourself I would assume, have more or less admitted to the game's faults by using modifications that correct THOUSANDS of pieces of code within the game. Should this person have to pay full price for access to data that is 99% similar to what they have already purchased? Are they offering a discounted rate for people switching platforms? Edited September 14, 2011 by MarkC9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MShoap13 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 A person purchases a game for, say, PS3. They realize the game is infinitely unplayable on this console and decide they prefer to play on PC. PC, where people, including yourself I would assume, have more or less admitted to the game's faults by using modifications that correct THOUSANDS of pieces of code within the game. Should this person have to pay full price for access to data that is 99% similar to what they have already purchased? Are they offering a discounted rate for people switching platforms? Yes, you should pay the full asking price (I believe the 5 year anniversary edition with all of the DLC is $40). You should also learn to never ever buy another Bethesda game for a console as they're horribly notorious for their lack of debugging. They release an Alpha as their final product, put out 2 or 3 patches that get it up to around Beta quality and then quit supporting their games. They've been doing this since Morrowind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC9 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) A person purchases a game for, say, PS3. They realize the game is infinitely unplayable on this console and decide they prefer to play on PC. PC, where people, including yourself I would assume, have more or less admitted to the game's faults by using modifications that correct THOUSANDS of pieces of code within the game. Should this person have to pay full price for access to data that is 99% similar to what they have already purchased? Are they offering a discounted rate for people switching platforms? Yes, you should pay the full asking price (I believe the 5 year anniversary edition with all of the DLC is $40). You should also learn to never ever buy another Bethesda game for a console as they're horribly notorious for their lack of debugging. They release an Alpha as their final product, put out 2 or 3 patches that get it up to around Beta quality and then quit supporting their games. They've been doing this since Morrowind.If they do all this, how would a person in this scenario not be justified in "pirating" the PC version? It is immoral to pirate software. It is immoral to release incomplete, alpha versions your product for the same price as the full, working version. Two wrong don't make a right? or Revenge is a dish best served cold? More specifically: One could easily pose the argument that you are actually purchasing the same thing twice. Porting a product costs a fraction of the actual development of the core game. It barely constitutes a new product, let alone at full price. Why does a person need to pay full price for the few percent difference in code? Why don't they allow a person to purchase this extra code for a discounted rate? DATA and OWNERSHIP as well as COPYRIGHTS are a very complicated issue. Edited September 14, 2011 by MarkC9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MShoap13 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 A person purchases a game for, say, PS3. They realize the game is infinitely unplayable on this console and decide they prefer to play on PC. PC, where people, including yourself I would assume, have more or less admitted to the game's faults by using modifications that correct THOUSANDS of pieces of code within the game. Should this person have to pay full price for access to data that is 99% similar to what they have already purchased? Are they offering a discounted rate for people switching platforms? Yes, you should pay the full asking price (I believe the 5 year anniversary edition with all of the DLC is $40). You should also learn to never ever buy another Bethesda game for a console as they're horribly notorious for their lack of debugging. They release an Alpha as their final product, put out 2 or 3 patches that get it up to around Beta quality and then quit supporting their games. They've been doing this since Morrowind.If they do all this, how would a person in this scenario not be justified in "pirating" the PC version? It is immoral to pirate software. It is immoral to release incomplete, alpha versions your product for the same price as the full, working version. Two wrong don't make a right? or Revenge is a dish best served cold? More specifically: One could easily pose the argument that you are actually purchasing the same thing twice. Porting a product costs a fraction of the actual development of the core game. It barely constitutes a new product, let alone at full price. Why does a person need to pay full price for the few percent difference in code? Why don't they allow a person to purchase this extra code for a discounted rate? DATA and OWNERSHIP as well as COPYRIGHTS are a very complicated issue. Morality and legality are two different topics, and your point of view seems to override legality over a strawman argument based on morality. Data, Ownership, and Copyrights are quite simple actually. No end user owns any data, just the license to use said data, and the license "your friend" owns in your previous example is exclusively for PS3. Some of the higher ups in multiple companies of the gaming industry have talked about consolidating media products and licenses into one multi-platform disk. Though, this will take a number of years before we see it in stores if it ever happens. Until then, what you've described is illegal, and we don't support modding pirated copies of any game found on the Nexus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonger Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 A person purchases a game for, say, PS3. They realize the game is infinitely unplayable on this console and decide they prefer to play on PC. PC, where people, including yourself I would assume, have more or less admitted to the game's faults by using modifications that correct THOUSANDS of pieces of code within the game. Should this person have to pay full price for access to data that is 99% similar to what they have already purchased? Are they offering a discounted rate for people switching platforms? Yes, you should pay the full asking price (I believe the 5 year anniversary edition with all of the DLC is $40). You should also learn to never ever buy another Bethesda game for a console as they're horribly notorious for their lack of debugging. They release an Alpha as their final product, put out 2 or 3 patches that get it up to around Beta quality and then quit supporting their games. They've been doing this since Morrowind.If they do all this, how would a person in this scenario not be justified in "pirating" the PC version? It is immoral to pirate software. It is immoral to release incomplete, alpha versions your product for the same price as the full, working version. Two wrong don't make a right? or Revenge is a dish best served cold? More specifically: One could easily pose the argument that you are actually purchasing the same thing twice. Porting a product costs a fraction of the actual development of the core game. It barely constitutes a new product, let alone at full price. Why does a person need to pay full price for the few percent difference in code? Why don't they allow a person to purchase this extra code for a discounted rate? DATA and OWNERSHIP as well as COPYRIGHTS are a very complicated issue. Morality and legality are two different topics, and your point of view seems to override legality over a strawman argument based on morality. Data, Ownership, and Copyrights are quite simple actually. No end user owns any data, just the license to use said data, and the license "your friend" owns in your previous example is exclusively for PS3. Some of the higher ups in multiple companies of the gaming industry have talked about consolidating media products and licenses into one multi-platform disk. Though, this will take a number of years before we see it in stores if it ever happens. Until then, what you've described is illegal, and we don't support modding pirated copies of any game found on the Nexus.a drivers license is not an aviation license is not a ships master's papers predicate of argument is flawed by intent buy a legal copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC9 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) I have a legal copy. Bringing in law is kind of senseless in this argument anyhow. 1) In the country this message is being posted from, a person could admit to using pirated software and face no criminal consequences whatsoever. Similarly if you are posting from North America or most of Europe, you cannot face any criminal penalty for simply giving someone a link to an application that removes or alters a piece of code from a game (in this case the code altering a mechanism that scans my drive for a disk). 2) More importantly, bringing in the law runs counter to the basis of the forum itself which is to modify the original structure of the game. Even in the zaniest court case in history, they (Bethesda) would have a hard time justifying this: They allow you modify and redistribute modifications to EVERY little aspect of the game on a site that is ad-supported (and thus for REVENUE) and suddenly put their foot down because you haven't stipulated a rule barring random people on the forum from discussing modification to a security feature. The owner of this site cannot be held accountable in court for someone on a public forum on his site discussing something against the game ToS. But they clearly stipulate you cannot modify any part of the game and re-distribute that or any other part of the game for profit (not even a sound file) yet here TESNexus is profiting off hundreds of people modifying the game and re-distributing it to tens of thousands. No one working for this site is exactly in a position to call anyone else a thief or claim what they are doing is illegal. I'm not ignorant to the scenario here either, it's likely similar to that of other sites: Bethesda technically doesn't mind most of these modifications since it attracts dedicated fans and doesn't cause a loss in profit. Thus the owners of the site do what they can keep Bethesda happy so they can keep generating ad-revenue off the millions of unique downloads where you have to wait 40 seconds for an ad. Then they turn around and act like hypocrites so they aren't in a position where Bethesda gets angry and takes away some potential for this ad-revenue. That, and there might be a chance they get some "hardcore site goodies" as I like to call it. Come in to the studio for beta testing, early releases, consulting with the devs, that kind of stuff. Since TESNexus can't be held accountable if a random person enters there public forum, messages another and tells them how to solve an issue that may or may not be a violation of the game ToS, they have no reason to specifically ask there moderators to enforce it. That is unless they have something else to lose from it ($$$, the goodies, etc). Thus it is clear we are dealing with a morality issue here, as well as a technological issue (lack of a system in place for users to receive discounted PC game if switching platforms). There's no use hiding behind the law when it's flawed and counter to morality and in many senses reality. Edited September 14, 2011 by MarkC9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I have a legal copy. Then put the disc in the drive. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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