Guards are attacking me without reason!

[Kjer]

Guards attacking me without reason!

 

Hello all skilled modders out there!... I have lots of mods installed, and they all are installed correct, and in the right loading order. My game runs just fine, except 1 little issue.

For an example, when doing the quest "Paranoia" (helping Glathir spying on the people which he thinks are spying on him)... In the end of this quest, if I decide to tell Glathir that no one is spying on him, he will attack me because he thinks I have become one of those which he thinks are spying on him. When he attacks me, guards are showing running towards me, and are attacking me like "I started some trouble" !! ... Worst thing is, if I decide to help him, and then turn him in to the guards, the guards will run to his location, and then quickly look at him, and then turn around and attack me! o.0

Though I havent tried the third option, "helping Glathir with killing an innocent person". But in my game, I dont want to do this, and even if I did so it doesnt mean that the problem has been fixed, the problem might return in another quest further in the game.

So anyhow, I would appriciate some help to fix this, I will be grateful for ANY help!

 

My mod list:

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm [CRC: 2FF840C5]
01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI] [CRC: 2D78AA91]
02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI] [CRC: DFD4FB97]
03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72] [CRC: 8284D0E6]
04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34] [CRC: C09734F4]
05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 5D909483]
06  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c] [CRC: F97DC0F4]
07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3] [CRC: 8899BA8D]
08  Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm  [Version 3.0b] [CRC: 4C85EDF0]
09  CM Partners.esm [CRC: FE525BB3]
0A  HorseCombatMaster.esm [CRC: AC684E53]
0B  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0] [CRC: FBE175F0]
0C  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0] [CRC: A2DBC5A4]
0D  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp [CRC: 01B694D9]
0E  DLCShiveringIsles.esp [CRC: 2BB84977]
0F  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0] [CRC: 0B86E389]
10  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [CRC: 45BD7EF9]
11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [CRC: 4F003DB0]
12  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [CRC: BEA456A9]
13  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [CRC: 36DF7A6E]
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: A27190A9]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 4547AA1F]
14  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 60FF114D]
15  Fran Armor Add-on.esp [CRC: 08F76946]
16  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp [CRC: A6BC52B6]
17  Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp [CRC: 5546A9E3]
18  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp [CRC: 48A6FB2A]
19  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp [CRC: F3DEA9CC]
1A  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1] [CRC: 5A11E6F3]
1B  IWR-Lights.esp [CRC: 10089D58]
1C  IWR-Windows.esp [CRC: B3E8A521]
1D  IWR-Shutters.esp [CRC: 2AB56EFC]
1E  AliveWaters.esp [CRC: 0717BF5A]
1F  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp [CRC: 47A85077]
20  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp [CRC: FA521F62]
21  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp [CRC: 391183EF]
22  Living Economy.esp [CRC: 486C64F8]
23  Living Economy - Items.esp [CRC: 1F0A2AB8]
24  Cutthroat Merchants.esp [CRC: 5DCDC3A3]
25  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4] [CRC: 20E88EC2]
26  DLCHorseArmor.esp [CRC: BAD48E5D]
27  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: CC2B28B9]
28  DLCOrrery.esp [CRC: 5BC59DB4]
29  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3] [CRC: 0407C427]
2A  DLCVileLair.esp [CRC: 74D2CA6F]
2B  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: AF79D6BB]
2C  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp [CRC: CB413740]
2D  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4] [CRC: 17517FA6]
2E  DLCSpellTomes.esp [CRC: 312156F8]
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 8CC91BA1]
++  Bodybuilder Body.esp [CRC: CA080F8A]
2F  Bonemold_helmet.esp [CRC: 4E105042]
30  1AzuSeraphimSet.esp [CRC: E3BB423F]
31  arme - excalibur.esp [CRC: 36AFF082]
32  Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp [CRC: 5BDBCFC2]
33  Banes Archer Paradox.esp [CRC: E30C8D3D]
34  ComfortableClothing_NoHiddenAmulets.esp [CRC: 89F0F5D8]
35  Handschuhe.esp [CRC: 8487F2B5]
36  Medieval Shields.esp [CRC: 52500491]
37  Mystic Emporium.esp [CRC: F92A9D60]
38  NexonsArmoryENG.esp [CRC: 92B06D1A]
39  Night Knight Armor.esp [CRC: F83150D1]
3A  pale_rider's Armory of The Divine Guardian.esp [CRC: 2FD11EFD]
3B  pale_rider's Paladin Equipment_enchanted_eng.esp [CRC: 2E665F07]
3C  Rindirs Staves.esp [CRC: 1B050D8B]
3D  Kit Rae Weaponry.esp [CRC: 2692EECF]
3E  Spirit Blade.esp [CRC: 3FC3AD4C]
3F  Tyrael Armor.esp [CRC: DCD652D4]
40  Dude Wheres My Horse.esp [CRC: 2B8B2341]
41  Goblin Realswords+Tribal Shields.esp [CRC: 47785DD4]
42  DLCThievesDen.esp [CRC: 05DB8CCC]
43  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: D38BA0EF]
44  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4] [CRC: 9AABAC21]
45  ExnemRuneskulls.esp [CRC: 17766E05]
++  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: DA70388F]
46  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72] [CRC: EAB6315A]
47  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63] [CRC: F7ADF908]
48  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp [CRC: DE136AF6]
49  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 5A017B08]
4A  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp [CRC: D82849FE]
++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: C7E2EFAC]
4B  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09] [CRC: 4F32343B]
4C  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3] [CRC: 3D5C75AA]
4D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34] [CRC: AD2A2935]
4E  OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: 09CB6B84]
++  OOO-BirthSigns.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: E0BB5D6C]
4F  OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: A72465BC]
50  OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: 4088F6EB]
++  OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: EBBF4F85]
51  OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: 8B51CA66]
52  OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: 5B6F42F5]
53  OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: 6A5D183A]
54  OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: BFE98741]
55  OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: DC4B4EDF]
++  OOO-Potions.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: 7AAE9B27]
56  OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: DDBB8479]
++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: 1560A30A]
57  Hemingweys Capes Improved for FCOM.esp  [Version 3.0b] [CRC: 13BC6F11]
++  Hemingweys FCOM OOO Cape Patch.esp  [Version 3.0b] [CRC: C0910C04]
++  Hemingweys FCOM Show Amulets.esp  [Version 3.0b] [CRC: EF2BD96B]
**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0] [CRC: 6F998DD2]
58  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0] [CRC: FFF6EF38]
++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: BE78E32B]
59  Hemingweys NPC Capes for OOO and FCOM.esp  [Version 1.02] [CRC: 2B7DE6B9]
5A  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3] [CRC: 711706C0]
++  FCOM_SlofsHorses.esp [CRC: 9B881F29]
++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2] [CRC: F03C2087]
5B  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: AD5EC654]
5C  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 1650A744]
++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 2B2CA06F]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 17C0D829]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 5E202813]
5D  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 54A8D198]
5E  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 6025C7D0]
5F  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: F5EE4316]
60  FarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.4] [CRC: 79F13870]
61  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c] [CRC: 2CB068DB]
++  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c] [CRC: BBCCF288]
++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: E2EB015C]
62  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: BC1A16C4]
63  TIE In.esp  [Version 1.2b] [CRC: C5D74125]
++  TIE In - ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 1.2b] [CRC: 0F3A5455]
++  TIE In - Cobl.esp  [Version 1.2b] [CRC: 38CE792B]
++  TIE In - RealSwords.esp  [Version 1.2b] [CRC: EA1B9178]
64  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34] [CRC: A13730DE]
65  Anduril Reforged.esp [CRC: 4A79F796]
66  Banes Cheydinhal Store Upgrade.esp [CRC: 5435016F]
67  Skingrad Store Upgrade.esp  [Version 2] [CRC: B4D23677]
68  Brothers Trade Goods.esp [CRC: 2195CE76]
69  Banes Bruma Merchant Upgrade.esp [CRC: B33CFDC4]
6A  Red Diamond Jewelry.esp [CRC: 10AF686B]
6B  Banes Anvil Merchant Upgrade.esp [CRC: 35E0A454]
6C  Banes Chorrol Store Upgrade.esp [CRC: FFB60B17]
6D  Banes Fallen Angel Sanctuary.esp [CRC: 74BC4623]
6E  Divine Elegance Upgrade.esp [CRC: 8CEC8686]
6F  Best Defense.esp [CRC: D2B0501B]
70  Bravil Store Upgrade.esp [CRC: F913CF5B]
71  Fighting Chance.esp [CRC: A1971587]
72  Leyawiin Castle & Guilds Upgrade.esp [CRC: 38A19BB4]
73  Leyawiin Store Upgrade.esp [CRC: 11B65882]
74  skingrad guild castle upgrade.esp [CRC: D1E850BB]
75  Slash n Smash.esp [CRC: 411BAF0B]
76  Stonewall Shields.esp [CRC: 7BD5C58C]
77  Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp [CRC: F3976680]
78  za_bankmod.esp [CRC: 26D83890]
79  DLCFrostcrag.esp [CRC: 2A7665FB]
7A  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4] [CRC: E248F43B]
7B  Knights.esp [CRC: F1F478FA]
7C  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9] [CRC: CCEDD7EE]
7D  The Lost Spires.esp [CRC: 5B6ADFB3]
7E  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp [CRC: 7D20E14F]
++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3] [CRC: A982ADDD]
7F  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: B948EAE3]
80  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp [CRC: 039926B5]
81  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2] [CRC: FEC083A9]
82  xulTheHeath.esp [CRC: 64C34F7D]
83  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: EF98D162]
84  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [CRC: 060DF603]
85  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1] [CRC: 9C5A7A05]
86  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2] [CRC: E70A54FC]
87  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4] [CRC: 64B503C9]
88  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.3] [CRC: 750D0226]
89  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3] [CRC: 98F220FA]
8A  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3] [CRC: 75E2FD36]
8B  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3] [CRC: DF776E3A]
8C  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3] [CRC: 8C1CDE06]
8D  BeldaElysium-RollingHills patch.esp [CRC: D5EAD5FC]
----> Delinquent MASTER: BeldaElysium.esp
8E  xulPantherRiver.esp [CRC: AD0A3B5E]
8F  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2] [CRC: 52A9819F]
90  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1] [CRC: 9302AD30]
91  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.7] [CRC: 17BE191B]
92  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0] [CRC: C1C3E5FA]
93  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 5FAB540B]
94  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2] [CRC: 599BB21F]
95  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: DABED778]
96  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2] [CRC: 478C8B3E]
97  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp [CRC: 5B675281]
98  RealSwordsNord-Snowdale patch.esp  [Version 1.0.0] [CRC: 0226A449]
99  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12] [CRC: 701EF543]
9A  OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp  [Version 1.1] [CRC: C07D7A0D]
9B  MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.0] [CRC: 45948F8A]
9C  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 321351F1]
9D  Salmo The Baker v2.0.esp  [Version 2.06] [CRC: 2C782FA2]
++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 1717B7C5]
9E  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp [CRC: B02B5753]
9F  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: 93873332]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: 05003A29]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: 4C040612]
A0  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: ADFEEDB5]
A1  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 4.4.2] [CRC: B56DEDF3]
A2  Ring of console.esp [CRC: C18564FE]
++  TIE In - DLCOrrery.esp  [Version 1.2b] [CRC: 955F16F0]
++  TIE In - DLCThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.2b] [CRC: 039C1BF1]
++  TIE In - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 1.2b] [CRC: F88FA132]
A3  Axebane_RealHunger25.esp [CRC: AB18075F]
A4  901--Fixed- max carrying capacity.-TESSource.esp [CRC: 4A2DB777]
A5  FastTravelAllowed.esp [CRC: B1E2D4CD]
A6  Beautiful People.esp [CRC: CBA67BB7]
A7  KT_CustomRaceFix.esp [CRC: DA0BDC57]
**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 779D0F82]
A8  Archers Arrows 1.1.esp [CRC: 06B01384]
A9  TheOrdinatorsArmor.esp [CRC: 4B8C7643]
AA  LootAllowBlades+Emperor+Extras.esp [CRC: 9B978CFB]
++  PalaceGuard+EmperorArmorLoot v1.0.1.esp [CRC: 737D8DBF]
++  DremoraArmorAllow v1.1.esp [CRC: 541E44AB]
++  ArenaLootAllow v1.2.esp [CRC: AE79B106]
++  ShiveringIslesArmorAllow v1.1.esp [CRC: B96826B4]
AB  PersianRace.esp [CRC: CE2D2B8F]
++  Remove Oblivion Sky in Tamriel.esp [CRC: 7F2B902B]
++  Claytons Bigger Streetlights v1.esp [CRC: 15A26087]
AC  NazgulSword.esp [CRC: FA92E3A9]
AD  fjDarkRegalia.esp [CRC: 150BB801]
AE  Banes Anvil Castle Guild Upgrade.esp [CRC: 13055FE5]
AF  Bravil Castle & Guilds Upgrade.esp [CRC: 443C2627]
B0  Banes Bruma Castle Guild Upgrade.esp [CRC: 641DF82B]
B1  Banes Chorrol Castle & Guild Upgrade.esp [CRC: C6934CCA]
B2  Banes Cheydinhal Castle Guild Upgrade.esp [CRC: C18840D1]
B3  Cloud Ruler Temple.esp [CRC: C4774550]
B4  fwRaceChangeRing.esp [CRC: A01F5494]
B5  Asger's Mod.esp [CRC: D16ADFF3]
B6  BeldaElysium.esp [CRC: 2AED0C2F]
B7  CM Partners.esp [CRC: ED17B93C]
B8  CM Partners NPC.esp [CRC: ACB522AC]
B9  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp [CRC: 9EBE1E58]
BA  DAGimli.esp [CRC: 8FCBD42E]
BB  CM Legolas.esp [CRC: FE0585A1]
BC  CM Boromir.esp [CRC: C9A89634]
BD  DAGandalf.esp [CRC: 755370B2]
BE  Paladin Class.esp [CRC: FBCCC5D7]
BF  Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: CB0CE48A]
C0  UVII.esp [CRC: 8EFBD75F]
C1  SP1stPLegs.esp [CRC: 04938CF0]
C2  Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp [CRC: 93072653]
C3  Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp [CRC: 52C6A80D]
C4  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp [CRC: 59A4E8C1]

 

[Hickory]

I have lots of mods installed, and they all are installed correct, and in the right loading order.

 

I love it when people do this (not). Your load order is not correct. For example, your Bashed Patch is before UV and DR. Not only that, you have clearly missed:

 

8D BeldaElysium-RollingHills patch.esp

----> Delinquent MASTER: BeldaElysium.esp

 

Suggest you update your BOSS masterlist and rebuild your Bashed Patch.

[Kjer]

I have lots of mods installed, and they all are installed correct, and in the right loading order.

 

I love it when people do this (not). Your load order is not correct. For example, your Bashed Patch is before UV and DR. Not only that, you have clearly missed:

 

8D BeldaElysium-RollingHills patch.esp

----> Delinquent MASTER: BeldaElysium.esp

 

Suggest you update your BOSS masterlist and rebuild your Bashed Patch.

 

Thats funny, because I've been told by many modders that DR should ALWAYS be loaded at last.

And Xtudo (another skilled modder) Says my load order is "just fine".

 

I will do what you say if more people are going to sugest the same thing. But for now, perhaps you could look into what mod that is actually is causing this?

[Hickory]

I have lots of mods installed, and they all are installed correct, and in the right loading order.

 

I love it when people do this (not). Your load order is not correct. For example, your Bashed Patch is before UV and DR. Not only that, you have clearly missed:

 

8D BeldaElysium-RollingHills patch.esp

----> Delinquent MASTER: BeldaElysium.esp

 

Suggest you update your BOSS masterlist and rebuild your Bashed Patch.

 

Thats funny, because I've been told by many modders that DR should ALWAYS be loaded at last.

That is the cry of those who don't know any better; those who's only logic is 'last one wins'.

 

 

And Xtudo (another skilled modder) Says my load order is "just fine".

Then keep it that way.

 

 

I will do what you say if more people are going to sugest the same thing. But for now, perhaps you could look into what mod that is actually is causing this?

But I thought you already had the blessing of many skilled modders? Why change now?

[Kjer]

I have been in contact with many skilled modders over the years I have been playing Oblivion, though Xtudo is my only friend I have direct contact with,

 

I said I will be grateful for any help I can get. But you seem more like the kind of loser that likes to pick on people which has less knowlege in certain things than yourself, and I find that directly rude. You attitude is not very nice, and rather than helping me, you choose to look down at me and methaphorically call me and my friend/friends for cry babies. I guess, this is what gives you the "boost" in your life to make you feel "big" once in a while. But please, take your issues somewhere else.

Or if you really are that good as you say you are (which I dont doubt, but that doesnt maks you any less an A-hole) then please be usefull and actually help me here.

 

And I'm sorry if I have offended you by writing this, but I just got pissed... Now we both have been rude to each other, so lets call it "fair", and perhaps move on to the real issue here? :)

[Hickory]

I have been in contact with many skilled modders over the years I have been playing Oblivion, though Xtudo is my only friend I have direct contact with,

 

I said I will be grateful for any help I can get. But you seem more like the kind of loser that likes to pick on people which has less knowlege in certain things than yourself, and I find that directly rude. You attitude is not very nice, and rather than helping me, you choose to look down at me and methaphorically call me and my friend/friends for cry babies. I guess, this is what gives you the "boost" in your life to make you feel "big" once in a while. But please, take your issues somewhere else.

Or if you really are that good as you say you are (which I dont doubt, but that doesnt maks you any less an A-hole) then please be usefull and actually help me here.

 

And I'm sorry if I have offended you by writing this, but I just got pissed... Now we both have been rude to each other, so lets call it "fair", and perhaps move on to the real issue here? :)

 

Not once was I rude to you. Not once. And yet you:

 

a) label me -- you are a bigot

b) call me a loser -- that is abuse, right there

c) wrongly accuse me of calling you and your friends cry babies -- I never did any such thing.

d) accuse me of being some sort of bully -- you clearly don't know anything about my history on these forums.

e) wrongly assume that I have 'issues' over this -- I do not.

f) call me an A-hole

 

If I were anywhere near anything you seem to think I am, I would make more of this. I will not. I will move on. Good day.

[Kjer]

a) label me -- you are a bigot - There is always at least two points of view.

b) call me a loser -- that is abuse, right there - Not more abuse than you abusing this forums to treat your "very clearly" personal issues.

c) wrongly accuse me of calling you and your friends cry babies -- I never did any such thing. - I didnt indirect said you called me a cry baby, if you can read, you will notice that I wrote "methaphorically".

d) accuse me of being some sort of bully -- you clearly don't know anything about my history on these forums. - I thank god that I dont know anything of your history on these forums, from what I see.

e) wrongly assume that I have 'issues' over this -- I do not. - Maybe you dont have issues, but at least you could try to make it look like that you "don't have any issues" over this.

f) call me an A-hole - I appolgize for that one, that was me crossing the line.

[buddah]

Seems nothing good has come of this. Time for a lock before I have to do something I don't want to.

 

>locked<