What Causes These Graphical Glitches?

[NexusKnight]

I've been having strange graphic occurances with Oblivion sporadically for six - eight months. These graphical glitches range from armour and hair disappearing under certain lights, NPC's going about their business in town without a complete body (incl. horses), black skies, X-ray looking effects on player character in inventory screen, stretched and distorted clothing in Anvil Fighters Guild (often resulting in flying objects), furniture disappearing, and fading (transparent ) armour, and even player leveled spells suddenly and inexplicably requiring a skill level of 1000 (yes 1K!) to name just a few - and for all of these I have screenshot proof. I know Oblivion isn't perfect, and as a recourse I just go about playing as usual, and the strangeness goes away with a previous save. Or does it?

 

Lately, I've been plagued by a persisting, re-occurance of familiar problems that make my game very unstable now. I can't play more than 5 - 10 mins before a CTD. Check-out this pic of my characters X-ray effect which just started happening not long ago, went away and is back to stay @ <http://www.tesnexus.com/imageshare/image.php?id=104205>. Something similar happened to my companion Vilja when her armour diasappeared only under indoor ceiling light to reapear again when she stepped from under it! This occured first in Battlehorn Castle/ Cobl version, spring of this year and is back now... wierd or what?

 

Normally, I can play uninterrupted by CTD's for, ata guess... couple hours, and then maybe my save menu window goes transparent and I know it's gonna crash on next load screen. Now that I have these two more serious problems re-occuring, I can't play more than ten minutes without a CTD occuring anywhere. It's become bad enough that I'm resorting to expert help as I've never really understood why these strange effects occured in the first place. Something's not loading right... textures, meshes, menus or all?

Can anyone help me with these problems please? They've gotten so serious that I can't continue playing and I really don't know what to do about them. Thanks in advance.

 

Just in case, here's comp specs and my load order...

 

HARDWARE

Intel 8500 Core2 Duo (3.1Ghz), 6 Gbs RAM, Radeon HD 4870 - 1GB GDDR5 with Windows 7, 64-bit

 

LOAD ORDER

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.2]
02  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
04  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.5.5b4]
05  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.8b5]
06  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]
07  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
08  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.5]
09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.2]
0B  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.2]
0C  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.2]
0D  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp
0E  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.2]
0F  AliveWaters.esp
10  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
11  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
12  Fish! - v1.1.esp
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]
13  My Voice Extender.esp
14  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.9]
15  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]
16  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.9]
17  Reznod_Mannequin.esp
18  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.2.2]
19  FF_Real_Thirst.esp
1A  Streamline 3.1.esp
1B  DLCHorseArmor.esp
1C  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1D  DLCOrrery.esp
1E  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
1F  DLCVileLair.esp
20  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
21  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
22  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
23  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
24  Alir'sArmor.esp
25  BlackLuster.esp
26  Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp
27  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
28  VA_UniqueKatana1.esp
++  VA_UniqueKatana1Replace.esp
29  R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp
2A  R18PN - Lingeries.esp
2B  AncientTowers.esp
2C  DLCThievesDen.esp
2D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
2F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
30  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
31  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
32  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]
33  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]
34  Mart's Monster Mod.esp  [Version 3.7b1]
35  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.8b5]
36  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 0.18]
37  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
38  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.5.5b3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
39  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
3A  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Increased.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Moderate Increased.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
3D  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
3E  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
40  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b1]
41  Mart's Monster Mod - Durzog Addon.esp  [Version 0.10]
++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]
42  TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]
43  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]
44  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]
45  Plate Armor Plus - Woman's Move Edition.esp
46  EM_CompInnsleeping.esp  [Version 0.9]
47  AleswellHomeQuest.esp
48  Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp
49  Imperial Furniture Renovated - Patch.esp
4A  EM_RedRoseManor.esp  [Version 1.1]
4B  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
4C  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
4D  GlenvarCastle.esp
4E  Naughty_Joana_01.esp
4F  Nascosto Isles 3.esp
50  All Natural - Nascosto Isles Weather Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]
51  SenTineL's Legendary Weapons And Armors.esp
52  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.6]
53  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
54  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
55  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
56  DLCFrostcrag.esp
57  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
58  Knights.esp
59  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp  [Version 3.7b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp  [Version 3.7b1]
5A  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
5B  HoarfrostCastle.esp
5C  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
5D  SLWA_Anequina_Patch.esp
5E  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
5F  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
60  xulTheHeath.esp
61  XulEntiusGorge.esp
62  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
63  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
64  HoarfrostCastle-ChorrolHinterland patch.esp
65  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
66  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
67  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
68  HoarfrostCastle-LushWoodlands patch.esp
69  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
6A  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
6B  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
6C  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
6D  xulPantherRiver.esp
6E  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
6F  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]
70  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]
71  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
72  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
73  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
74  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
75  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
76  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
77  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
78  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
79  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
7A  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
7B  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 4.2.1]
7C  gardening.esp
7D  RealHungerv1.4.esp
7E  RealisticFatigue.esp
7F  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]
80  Multiple Enchantments.esp
81  zzEstrus.esp
**  Woman's Move.esp
++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]
82  babehair_EV.esp
83  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 3.02]
84  ViljainAleswell.esp  [Version 1.1]
85  BetterShack.esp  [Version 1.14]
86  candlelight.esp
87  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]
88  Companion Compatibility.esp
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.2]
89  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
8A  1em_Vilja_corean9.esp
8B  Colourwheels Sexy Skyrim Outpost HGEC.esp
8C  ArashikagesGear.esp
8D  Stoneblocks.esp
8E  1em_Vilja_Bruse_as_Slofs_horse_by_Xtudo.esp
8F  EMRedRoseAddonCOBL.esp
90  ViljainRedRoseManor.esp
91  MountainShackR13.esp

 

[AnimalRiot]

That sounds really weird. It doesn't seem to be exclusively GPU related and your gaming rig specs are quite capable. Have you considered it to be a corrupted saved game? Try starting a new character just to test it.

[NexusKnight]

That sounds really weird. It doesn't seem to be exclusively GPU related and your gaming rig specs are quite capable. Have you considered it to be a corrupted saved game? Try starting a new character just to test it.

 

Okay, I have been playing another game (switching between two different save files) and everything was working just fine until today. Just finished playing for a few hours and got my first graphical glitch - when entering the basement of my IC home none of the walls' texturing was there, just blackness, yet there was a floor and ceiling. And now, this other game (level 19) is beginning to crash more often than usual!

 

I don't know anything about corrupt saves... like is it possible to still be able to play one and just keep compounding errors and saving them? Because my older game (level 47) has been going from bad to worse as if this was happening. And if this is the case, is there anything I can do about it?

 

BTW thanks for the quick response AnimalRiot, I really appreciate it.

[HeyYou]

What game version do you have?

[NexusKnight]

What game version do you have?

 

 

I'm playing the GOTY version.

[AnimalRiot]

Among your listed mods, a possible culprit i could think of would probably be wrong Streamline settings. Try disabling the streamsmooth feature and test if you're not having any problems. You may need to re-initialize streamline in-game. Also probably defragment your hard drive to minimize disk thrashing. Edited September 27, 2011 by AnimalRiot

[NexusKnight]

Among your listed mods, a possible culprit i could think of would probably be wrong Streamline settings. Try disabling the streamsmooth feature and test if you're not having any problems. You may need to re-initialize streamline in-game. Also probably defragment your hard drive to minimize disk thrashing.

 

Sure I'll give it a try and let you know what happens in a few days.

[HeyYou]

If you installed everything (both disks) you should have the latest version then. It does sound suspiciously like the form ID bug though.....

[NexusKnight]

If you installed everything (both disks) you should have the latest version then. It does sound suspiciously like the form ID bug though.....

 

HeyYou, what is the FormID bug? I do have FormID installed but couldn't get it to work on new OB install. I got yellow missing meshes notification, but Alt inquirey didn't work on them. Program is still installed tho... too lazy to remove it. But I've never heard of the FormID bug. Could you plz explain?

[HeyYou]

FormID bug was introduce with an early patch of oblivion, in that it would have duplicate form ID's for multiple items. Needless to say, that didn't work out so well, and only ONE item with the duplicated form ID would ever show up. FormID finder, on the other hand, is an entirely different kettle of fish. If you have the latest version, it should have the missing mesh icon, with collision, so that you can actually select it. Might want to check log files, and make sure it is actually loading.