If AI was created, should it have equal rights to humans?

[Werne]

No, it can be intelligent like human and it can learn like human but it will never be human. AI has no emotions, it can't feel. And another thing, humans act on instincts and impulses, machine is programmed, it acts according to the program and is unable to do something illogical or random.

[Lynxy45]

No, it can be intelligent like human and it can learn like human but it will never be human. AI has no emotions, it can't feel. And another thing, humans act on instincts and impulses, machine is programmed, it acts according to the program and is unable to do something illogical or random.

Suppose it depends on the program, after all humans are *basically* highly advanced organic machines that have become self aware due to several neural processes among other things. A machine we create COULD become the same like that, but it would never be equal, just like humans can never be truly equal with the thing that created us, because in the end, it governs our every move or is RESPONSIBLE for our every move (responsible is a key word there I wanted to highlight just for the whole topic in general, wasn't a caps typo :P), just like nature is responsible for our every move because it made us. Having responsibility for something means that you have at least some measure of power over it, and no, in these sorts of situations you cant just get rid of the responsibility because it will always exist.

[marharth]

Its completely incorrect to say AI can't have emotions. If its a programmed machine that can not learn it is not AI, it is a programmed machine. Obviously AI can have emotions, what makes you think they somehow can't?

 

Should it not be considered slavery to consider yourself a owner of something or someone with the same mental ability as you?

 

Nature made us, yes. But we have fought back against nature already. We can control nature ourselves. The governing body of nature is being defeated more and more everyday, and AI should not be compared in the same way.

Edited September 28, 2011 by marharth

[BlackRampage]

No. Why not? Because an AI simply isn't the same as a human being even if it can think and learn the same way a human does.

 

AI's are simply not our equals, no matter how well they are made. In the end they are still a different "species".

 

A species should be judged and given rights based on it's own merits, not on those of another species. Judging and giving rights to them based on a different species could even be considered as racism.

 

This is also why I think a human clone can have these equal right and an AI cannot.

[marharth]

No. Why not? Because an AI simply isn't the same as a human being even if it can think and learn the same way a human does.

 

AI's are simply not our equals, no matter how well they are made. In the end they are still a different "species".

 

A species should be judged and given rights based on it's own merits, not on those of another species. Judging and giving rights to them based on a different species could even be considered as racism.

 

This is also why I think a human clone can have these equal right and an AI cannot.

Not following your logic.

[Lynxy45]

Its completely incorrect to say AI can't have emotions. If its a programmed machine that can not learn it is not AI, it is a programmed machine. Obviously AI can have emotions, what makes you think they somehow can't?

 

Should it not be considered slavery to consider yourself a owner of something or someone with the same mental ability as you?

Im not saying it cant have emotions (unless that was directed at the post above, either way im saying this as well just in case), of course it can, but no, it should not be considered slavery to consider yourself an owner of something with the same mental intelligence as you IF you created it, which in the case of human made AI cores and processes, we have, therefore it is not considered slavery because we are responsible for it and it is our creation, we have not "stolen" it in that sense.

[FnimonSni]

No, it can be intelligent like human and it can learn like human but it will never be human. AI has no emotions, it can't feel. And another thing, humans act on instincts and impulses, machine is programmed, it acts according to the program and is unable to do something illogical or random.

 

I think Marharth made it pretty clear that this is the not the attitude were going with.

[Lynxy45]

Its completely incorrect to say AI can't have emotions. If its a programmed machine that can not learn it is not AI, it is a programmed machine. Obviously AI can have emotions, what makes you think they somehow can't?

 

Should it not be considered slavery to consider yourself a owner of something or someone with the same mental ability as you?

 

Nature made us, yes. But we have fought back against nature already. We can control nature ourselves. The governing body of nature is being defeated more and more everyday, and AI should not be compared in the same way.

Yes we have fought against nature, but nature allows us to do so and is responsible for us doing so, if it wanted, in a hypothetical sense, it could send a thousand storms or kill us off like in the 2012 film, but it does not. It still has some measure of power over us because it allows us to do these things, if it did not wish us to, it would not have made us so advanced as to be self aware.

[marharth]

Its completely incorrect to say AI can't have emotions. If its a programmed machine that can not learn it is not AI, it is a programmed machine. Obviously AI can have emotions, what makes you think they somehow can't?

 

Should it not be considered slavery to consider yourself a owner of something or someone with the same mental ability as you?

Im not saying it cant have emotions (unless that was directed at the post above, either way im saying this as well just in case), of course it can, but no, it should not be considered slavery to consider yourself an owner of something with the same mental intelligence as you IF you created it, which in the case of human made AI cores and processes, we have, therefore it is not considered slavery because we are responsible for it and it is our creation, we have not "stolen" it in that sense.

Was directed at someone else since a lot of people are posting fast here.

 

So we created AI, so that would give us the right to own it and control it? Why exactly? Still not fully understanding why that would be the rule.

 

Nature is not a aware being, nature is simply a process of mathematical probabilities. We know how to change it to benefit the human race.

 

The difference is that nature is not a aware entity, while human beings and AI would be aware entities.

 

Nature does not have logic or remorse, it does not make decisions. Nature does not allow us to do anything, we simply know how to defy it.

Edited September 28, 2011 by marharth

[Lynxy45]

Its completely incorrect to say AI can't have emotions. If its a programmed machine that can not learn it is not AI, it is a programmed machine. Obviously AI can have emotions, what makes you think they somehow can't?

 

Should it not be considered slavery to consider yourself a owner of something or someone with the same mental ability as you?

Im not saying it cant have emotions (unless that was directed at the post above, either way im saying this as well just in case), of course it can, but no, it should not be considered slavery to consider yourself an owner of something with the same mental intelligence as you IF you created it, which in the case of human made AI cores and processes, we have, therefore it is not considered slavery because we are responsible for it and it is our creation, we have not "stolen" it in that sense.

Was directed at someone else since a lot of people are posting fast here.

 

So we created AI, so that would give us the right to own it and control it? Why exactly? Still not fully understanding why that would be the rule.

Because humans do not define power entirely, power exists whether or not we choose to acknowledge it or how we perceive it. In the end, as ive said, responsibility of creating something means you are then responsible for all its actions and as ive pointed out that gives you a measure of power whether you like it or not, therefore its the logical option to try and control it.