This is what happens when you support console modding.

[threedog1421]

Exactly, console peasants (sorry won't shy away either) are just ruining a good thing. The entitlement is strong in the peasant community. If a mod author doesn't want to bring a mod to console it's there right. They don't owe console players jack s#*!.

[TeamBacon]

I support console modding.

 

-Nevermind... I just deleted everything else I had to say in order to avoid controversy-

Edited May 29, 2016 by TeamBacon

[dazzerfong]

Funny how for someone who hasn't released anything, you talk smack about console users not contributing anything. And people wonder why us PC users are full of s***. The only way you're better than them is that you have a shinier and more expensive toy. The fact that you're proclaiming superiority shuts down that 'entry fee' mindset, which is BS.

 

For the record, I don't mind console modding. If anything, I'm glad they have it: it allows my friends to use some of the stuff I've made. I've received 3 requests so far for me to put my mods to Beth, and when I stated 'eventually', all I got were all polite 'thank you's'. Have you ever thought that people respond differently when you act all high-and-mighty?

Edited May 29, 2016 by dazzerfong

[slash0mega]

vocal minority! these "console peasants" are your typical run of the mill internet idiot. the only "problem" here is accessibility, suddenly you don't have to screw with files, download mod managers, or anything like that. its BOOP BOOP modded. now people who have no idea how modding (or courtesy) works are now included. so total idiots think they can now mod. of course, there are plenty of peaple who are not flooding the nexus making demands, but nobody knows about them BECAUSE they are not yelling at peaple.

[TeamBacon]

The Nexus has always been flooded with 'I can't believe nobody has made this yet!' and 'Make me this obscure armor from this obscure anime' and 'We need a mod to fix blah blah blah'...

 

PC master race people who think that it is just two clicks to take a mod from Skyrim and make it work for Fallout 4.

 

PC master race people who think that it is not illegal for us to take assets straight out of New Vegas and put it into Fallout 4... and also not realizing how bad it would look.

 

I don't see how this is any different at all.

[tartarsauce2]

yes but you'll maybe get more of them due to XB1 numbers, on the other hand they're sufficiently new to the scene so will act differently, and the people might be more "normal" in a sense, so more polite - you know how it is there I'm sure - on the other hand the ones that will bother coming here probably won't be because... they're not the really "bro" types which follow those kinds of rules/trends
and so on
I just suspect console bros will goof up at some point, I didn't just mean the artists were delicate flowers, I also meant the fanbase are autists as well
I'm not going to exclude myself from this, I just thought it might be good to kind of, get everyone acquainted with how they're going to contribute to this being a fiasco, for posterity's sake :tongue:
and maybe some self awareness just in case maybe people tone their variant down ever so slightly~ maybe, big maybe :laugh:

Edited May 29, 2016 by tartarsauce2

[minngarm]

The level of stupid in some parts of this thread gets my dick hard.

 

It is literally a simple few clicks enter a mod name to upload it to consoles on bethesda.net, nothing more than that. Nothing has to be done special to make it happen beyond like 5 minutes of work.

 

As for this harassment and hate? I've only seen negativity in the bullshit "rating" system beth uses and in MA's not being able to clean the comment section of their page. I've had basically nothing but good or just so stupid it's silly interactions with console users, so I don't know what the f*#@ you none mod authors are complaining about.

[ItsCraft]

Seeing all this makes me happy Microsoft hasn't ported all the hundreds of thousands of mc mods to consoles,

I'm pretty sure the exact same thing would happen to the Mc community as this has happened hear.

what I'm saying is.
console users expect to get things, that's why they bought the console.
I'm not saying what they are doing is ok.
But mob mentality is to blame here.

Humans being selfish and too ambitiously excited for things and pressuring people will likely continue to happen for the next year.

[zanity]

The management of Nexus chooses to bury its head in the sand, and encourage the moderators to toe the party line. But something is coming that should make us all very unhappy.

 

The issue is NOT FO4. Just as Beth's unhappy attempts to SABOTAGE Skyrim modding crashed and burned within days, there is next-to-nothing Beth can do to spoil the (dying) Nexus mod scene for FO4. Why? Cos of the direct consequences of the ancient software engine used to power FO4. It is too open- too hackable- too 'old school'.

 

The issue is Skyrim 2 (the place holder name for the next Elder Scrolls single player open world game). This game uses the ALL NEW iDTech derived engine- that is built from the ground up for modular, easy to apply, easy to control, easy to distribute mods. And this engine WILL NOT allow mods to be hosted anywhere but Bethesda,net.

 

Mods for Skyrim2 will all need to contain SIGNATURE IP owned by Bethesda, and this trick allows Beth total control over how and when such mods are made available.

 

For earlier Beth games, most mods do not need to contain one lick of Beth IP (using Beth tools to make a mod is NOT the same thing legally as a mod that contains Beth IP). It is the world's easiest thing to create a modding system where mods all need a legally licensable block of IP SIGNATURE code embedded within them. Skyrim 2 will NOT have the 'accidental' modding world of FO3/NV/Skyrim/FO4- think Apple app store instead.

 

Can Beth be dissuaded from this course of action? NO! Will this kill Beth game modding as we currently understand it? YES!

 

In the mean time, the BEST strategy is to ignore the drama created by Beth.net, and to remake Nexus in the shape of the best open-source practices. This means reversing the 'modder is god' policy of the Nexus, and actively encouraging modders to make their resources available for the use of other modders. Modders should NOT have the ability to block read-only access to 'their' pages on the Nexus - that abilty is so open to abuse it is unreal.

 

The Nexus should actively encourage all forms of fundamental modder resources to be hosted here- not just GLORY-SEEKING, "how many endorsements did I get" finished mods.

 

The whole HOT-FILES, Files of the Month concept belongs on Beth.net, not here. Modding should NOT be a popularity contest (which brings out the very worst in people) but a happy decent collabrative effort where SHARING ideas and skills is seen as the ideal.

 

Nexus has an uphill battle to come- taking the high ground is the ONLY way to win.

[Reneer]

Do you have any sources / proof of what you are saying, zanity?