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Hi everybody

 

iv basically started using requiem but im not sure whats causing this CTD im having outside winterhold crossing the bridge to winterholds big bridge (down left from stables if facing winterhold) iv removed some texture packs and removed a mod that added some villages called TES arena skyrim frontier fortress but iv had no look at all my fps is fine and memory blocks log shows that it doesnt hit the maximum mark at all

 

here is my load order

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Falskaar.esm
7 7 EFFCore.esm
8 8 WM Flora Fixes.esp
9 9 Campfire.esm
10 a notice board.esp
11 b RaceCompatibility.esm
12 c ApachiiHair.esm
13 d hdtHighHeel.esm
14 e HighResTexturePack01.esp
15 f HighResTexturePack02.esp
16 10 HighResTexturePack03.esp
You Hunger.esp
17 11 Requiem.esp
18 12 Requiem - Legendary Bugsmasher Edition.esp
19 13 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
20 14 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
21 15 3DNPC.esp
22 16 SkyUI.esp
23 17 Extended UI.esp
24 18 UIExtensions.esp
25 19 SkyTweak.esp
26 1a iHUD.esp
27 1b AHZmoreHUD.esp
28 1c ArrowRecoverySystemOverhaul.esp
29 1d Better Archery (Dawnguard) 1.0.esp
30 1e Better Archery (Dragonborn) 1.0.esp
31 1f Better Archery 1.0.esp
32 20 JaxonzNamedSave.esp
33 21 JaxonzNameGen.esp
34 22 AnonymousPeople.esp
35 23 SimplyKnock.esp
36 24 Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
37 25 NoMoreGlowArmor.esp
38 26 ImperialSoldiersEscortFix.esp
39 27 TakeNotes.esp
40 28 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
41 29 Worlds Dawn.esp
42 2a Crime Overhaul.esp
43 2b CrimeDecay.esp
44 2c AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp
45 2d BlackHorseCourier.esp
46 2e The Eloquent Reader.esp
47 2f RaceMenu.esp
48 30 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
49 31 DHuntress.esp
50 32 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
51 33 KKSDrBWeightFix.esp
52 34 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
53 35 TKDodge.esp
54 36 attack commitment movement speed fluid 3.esp
55 37 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
56 38 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
57 39 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
58 3a Supreme Fog.esp
59 3b Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
60 3c FlameAtronachArmor.esp
61 3d CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
62 3e Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
63 3f Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
64 40 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
65 41 FullBootForKKSA.esp
66 42 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
67 43 KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp
68 44 WetandCold.esp
69 45 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
70 46 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
71 47 Helgen Reborn.esp
72 48 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
73 49 ApachiiHairStyles.esp
74 4a ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp
75 4b OBIS.esp
76 4c Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
77 4d Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
78 4e TradeRoutes.esp
79 4f FloraRespawnFix.esp
80 50 HarvestOverhaul.esp
81 51 WM Flora Fixes HO Patch.esp
82 52 OBISDB.esp
83 53 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
84 54 Scarcity - Less Loot Mod.esp
85 55 Scarcity - 10x Loot Rarity.esp
86 56 Scarcity - 10x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
87 57 Scarcity - 2x Loot Rarity.esp
88 58 Scarcity - 2x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
89 59 Scarcity - 4x Loot Rarity.esp
90 5a Scarcity - 4x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
91 5b Scarcity - 6x Loot Rarity.esp
92 5c Scarcity - 6x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
93 5d Scarcity - 8x Loot Rarity.esp
94 5e Scarcity - 8x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
95 5f RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
96 60 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
97 61 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
98 62 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
99 63 Immersive Weapons.esp
100 64 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
101 65 Hunting in Skyrim.esp
102 66 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
103 67 Inconsequential NPCs.esp
104 68 EFFDialogue.esp
105 69 TGBC.esp
106 6a KKFur.esp
107 6b The Honored Dead.esp
108 6c Cloaks.esp
109 6d 1nivWICCloaks.esp
110 6e CFR-CloaksForRequiem.esp
111 6f Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
112 70 Run For Your Lives.esp
113 71 QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp
114 72 SMIM-Merged-All.esp
115 73 NorthernCardinal.esp
116 74 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
117 75 Hunterborn.esp
118 76 Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp
119 77 Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp
120 78 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
121 79 Better Vampires.esp
122 7a RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
123 7b Requiem - Better Vampires Patch.esp
124 7c DarkManeuvers.esp
125 7d VL No AoE Drain.esp
126 7e Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp
127 7f CACO_RND_Patch.esp
128 80 Frostfall.esp
129 81 Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp
130 82 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
131 83 RND_Requiem-Patch.esp
132 84 Dig Site.esp
133 85 RND_USKP-Patch.esp
134 86 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
135 87 DA_Skyship.esp
136 88 WorldEaterBeater.esp
137 89 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
138 8a Immersive Speechcraft.esp
139 8b EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
140 8c Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
141 8d Requiem - Imperious.esp
142 8e TimingIsEverything.esp
143 8f SL99Exchanger.esp
144 90 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
145 91 Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp
146 92 Vampirelordroyal.esp
147 93 BVandRB_Formlist.esp
148 94 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
149 95 JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
150 96 ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
151 97 easier daedra hearts.esp
152 98 MoonAndStar_Requiem_compat.esp
153 99 MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp
154 9a notice board - dragonborn patch.esp
155 9b Imaginator BETA.esp
156 9c Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
157 9d Apocalypse - Requiem Compatibility Patch.esp
158 9e Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
159 9f dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
160 a0 AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
161 a1 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
162 a2 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
163 a3 CFR-Campfire.esp
164 a4 CFR-NoKFR.esp
165 a5 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
166 a6 Dwemertech - Requiem Compatibility Patch.esp
167 a7 Thunderchild - Requiem Compatibility Patch.esp
168 a8 Unique Uniques.esp
169 a9 OBISCCOR&IA8.esp
170 aa CCF_RND_Patch.esp
171 ab Clothing & Clutter_3DNPC_Patch.esp
172 ac CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
173 ad CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures+DLC2_Patch.esp
174 ae HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
175 af HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp
176 b0 TradeBarterLite.esp
177 b1 More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp
178 b2 PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp
179 b3 CACO_Immersive Creatures Patch.esp
180 b4 CACO_UniqueBooze_Patch.esp
181 b5 CACO_USLEEP_Patch.esp
182 b6 CCO_SIC_Patch.esp
183 b7 CACO - CCOR Patch.esp
184 b8 Requiem - TimingIsEverything.esp
185 b9 Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp
186 ba Serana.esp
187 bb Additional Player Voices for Skyrim.esp
188 bc Brows.esp
189 bd KS Hairdo's.esp
190 be 12FemaleBrows.esp
191 bf Eyes of Aber.esp
192 c0 MikanEyes All in one.esp
193 c1 CharacterMakingExtender.esp
194 c2 USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp
195 c3 Cherry's Eyes.esp
196 c4 FNIS.esp
197 c5 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
198 c6 TradeRoutes-HelgenReborn-Patch.esp
199 c7 TradeRoutes-RNaD-Patch.esp
205 cd XPMSE.esp
206 ce ESO Breton Knight by NewrMind43.esp
207 cf RedMountainErupts.esp
208 d0 Raziel Vampire Armor.esp
209 d1 TERA Weapons.esp
210 d2 TERAArmors_CBBE.esp
211 d3 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
212 d4 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
213 d5 Requiem for the Indifferent.esp
all help is appreciated the bashed patch is just loaded level list nothing else
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haha iI just replied to a post you made earlier in the month about Sands of Time insta regen. And I have a good requiem build so it's cool that I may be able to help you out this time.

 

First, take a look at my Requiem load order - Requiem basically touches everything, levels everything so all Requiem esps need to be at the bottom of the order. Requiem for the indifferent is Requiem's version of a bashed patch so the Wryr bash may actually be harming your Requiem setup. Requiem load orders make many long-time modders feel a bit uncomfortable because it's a little different, and goes against some of the long established standard rules...

 

 

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OK so you see the entire load order then let me breakdown the last part of the load order as that is the most important of all.

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Requiem.esp
Requiem - Legendary Bugsmasher Edition.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

*Alternate Start is the exception, and it must come after the two main Requiem ESPs. but before ALL Requiem patches which these all are. Requiem is a mod set that doesn't play nice with other mods so for starters, look at 'Patch Central 1.9.4' and when you install it, make sure you select

all your mods - also patches from the Requiem page itself, Another name for Requiem patches may show 'Reqtified' in the name, these are also Requiem patches. *

NRM_Dragonborn_Reqtified.esp
NRM 3DNPC - Requiem Patch.esp
KFR-Kryptopyr'sFixesReqtified.esp
COR-CraftingOverhaulReqtified.esp
Requiem - Arissa.esp
Requiem - Black Mage Armor.esp
Requiem - Campfire.esp
Requiem - Cutting Room Floor.esp
Requiem - Hearthfire.esp
Requiem - Hoth.esp
Requiem - Immersive Creatures.esp
Requiem - Immersive Horses.esp
Requiem - Craftable Horse Barding.esp
Requiem - Immersive Patrols.esp
Requiem - Inconsequential NPCs.esp
Requiem - Inigo.esp
Requiem - Live Another Life.esp
Requiem - Skytest.esp
Requiem - Vilja.esp

 

*Then lastly, I see that you understood that you needed to run the 'Reqtificator'
Requiem for the Indifferent.esp

You shouldn't need a bashed patch in a Requiem build since that is what Requiem for the indifferent basically is.

 

So in summary, the order:

 

All your other mods

The two Requiem EPSs - main and bugsmasher

Any exception mods like Alternate Start LAL

All Requiem patches

Requiem for the indifferent as it is generated by Reqtificator

 

LOOT will mess this order all up so after you install/remove mods, must manually put all the Requiem mods/patches back to the way it was.

 

 

Good luck - Requiem is fun but maddening at times when starting out. You have a lot of mods loaded - just remember if you still have issues, try taking out any other mods that change gameplay since that might be conflicting with Requiem without a patch.

 

Good luck - J

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Oh ya, almost forgot - when adding Requiem patches, it's vitally important that the patch used is for that specific version of Requiem. So an older patch for Requiem might not work if you installed the latest, Requiem 1.9.4

Requiem is THAT picky, no joke. That's why you will most likely see Patch Central, and Patch Central 1.9.4 nexus pages with all the patches segregated from each version.

 

If there's a patch that was for an older Requiem - maybe like your "Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp" patch, and you're using 1,9,4 Requiem, that might cause a problem right away or later. It's the issues happening later that irk me the most because of the time invested into a playthrough. If it were me, which I actually did do, I'd keep a Requiem build to a minimal amount of mods or building around confimed patch availability for a certain version of Requiem.

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Oh thank you so much for that information im gunna get home later and arrange everything and check the patches. I was using crash fix as well which actually seemed to make the game worse i disabled it and it worked alot better got past the ctding part but it seems the rest is due to load order so i will reorder it to what you have told me :) now i so carnt wait :D
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In addition to what jeedge said keep in mind that requiem is best played on a minimal load order especially for your first time.

 

DONT use a merge or bash patch with requiem.

 

With the newer builds of requiem alternate start can safely be loaded before requiem. The multiple records have been cleaned up.

 

Crash Fixes isnt crashing your game.

 

I personally use Requiem as well. I cant go back to playing without it. Its a COMPLETELY different game and a shame its not more popular.

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Good to know ironbender, there's a lot of old articles floating around about placing LAL after the main Requiem.esp, actually it's still on the author's nexus page but I know the devs don't always update the main page content right away - I think he has moved most of his stuff to his own web site if I'm not mistaken.

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thank you so much for the help the game is much more stable and is stunning so excited to go full dive ^^

 

although i attacked the outside bandit of the mine near helgen and riverwood just after standing stones... didnt go to well... now have learnt the difficulty of requiem XD

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  On 5/31/2016 at 3:19 PM, jeedge said:

Good to know ironbender, there's a lot of old articles floating around about placing LAL after the main Requiem.esp, actually it's still on the author's nexus page but I know the devs don't always update the main page content right away - I think he has moved most of his stuff to his own web site if I'm not mistaken.

 

I only know that cause i seen a post from ogerboss telling someone else that. lol. I trust what he says.

 

1.9.3 and 1.9.4 have had a lot of records cleaned up compared to the older versions and its ok to do so now. in my own personal setup i load requiem after alternate start or skyrim unbound....whichever i decide to use.

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