We do not want the company-developed mod makers.

[EvgeniiYashkov]

Previously, I was just a player, so I can honestly say about our attitude to the creators of the mods.

We do not like a lot of the game, we want new items. We want only the best things, and we want it for free.

In most cases, we do not wonder who made the mod. We do not know that the best work is occupied by a month or more, and it is a very difficult job. And we do not want to thank and support these people.

Now I'm working on better armor for the fallout 4. This will be the best of what I see now. This is the only thing I do. Then "die" another artist. Because I can not afford to exist as an individual developer and do for you is free.

Community Skyrim players decided to leave the creation of mods as a hobby. But it was the decision of the players and we did not ask their creators. We condemn these people to destroy as developers.

I'm for a free society, but also fair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChZ2bxBldXM

I just want to know the truth. To the topic made sense, I defined the goal.

If you want to know the truth about the community's protest against the payment to fashion, please priite participate in the topic.

Participation can take players and modders games series The Elder scrolls and Fallout

The purpose of the theme: 1) Find out who took part in protests against the payment system to fashion Skyrim via survey (players and modders). 2) Was it a fair solution. 3) Who should decide the question of the payment system for fashion: the players (who do not take part in the creation of mods) or modders.

If you are not too much trouble, then please fill in the simple or complex survey form.

A simple survey form:

1) Who are you? Player modder, or (if the modder, please provide links to their work).

2) Are you for or against the toll system on the mods, which will be considered and fair.

Extended form of the survey:

1) Who are you? Player modder, or (if the modder, please provide links to their work).

2) Are you for or against the toll system on the mods, which will be considered and fair.

3) How old are you?

4) What for you is the creation of mods: hobbies, or the opportunity to learn and become a professional in the creation of games once.

5) Would you like to learn, and then be able to deal professionally creating mods and receive support.

Edited June 9, 2016 by EvgeniiYashkov

[zanity]

Why would anyone VOLUNTEER to be a whining cry-baby. You want paying, GROW-UP and get a job in one of the tens of thousands of creative industries, computer connected or not.

 

Modders are NOT wannabe paid employees, but people who, for a myriad of different reasons, are willing to use their FREE TIME to craft new elements of a game, and offer these improvements FREELY. Sometimes a modder is a person bored stiff by their paying day job. Sometimes a person after the 'glory' of being a 'famed' modder.

 

Sometimes a student with a lot of free time. Sometimes a person who wants to discover if they can- and thinks modding is a way of taking baby-steps into something they may eventually lead to a new career. Sometimes a modder is a coder or artist with so much 'juice' it just overflows, even after a full day of paid employment.

 

But the "wah-wah, we modders give our time and must be paid else modding dies- wah, wah" were never true modders in the first place- just attention seekers. And why is it these types have the absolute CHEEK to think they speak for real modders?

[EvgeniiYashkov]

Why would anyone VOLUNTEER to be a whining cry-baby. You want paying, GROW-UP and get a job in one of the tens of thousands of creative industries, computer connected or not.

Modders are NOT wannabe paid employees, but people who, for a myriad of different reasons, are willing to use their FREE TIME to craft new elements of a game, and offer these improvements FREELY. Sometimes a modder is a person bored stiff by their paying day job. Sometimes a person after the 'glory' of being a 'famed' modder.

Sometimes a student with a lot of free time. Sometimes a person who wants to discover if they can- and thinks modding is a way of taking baby-steps into something they may eventually lead to a new career. Sometimes a modder is a coder or artist with so much 'juice' it just overflows, even after a full day of paid employment.

But the "wah-wah, we modders give our time and must be paid else modding dies- wah, wah" were never true modders in the first place- just attention seekers. And why is it these types have the absolute CHEEK to think they speak for real modders?

But why most modders then exhibited their works for an unfair price.

I will accept your opinion, if you are a modder this, which you spoke.

I do not need money. I'm for the development of art.

[tartarsauce2]

if you do good work, protect it, keep it as a form of portfolio for a resume
artwork is artwork when you're doing artistic jobs isn't it?
so even if it's for a game, it still counts I'm sure

works done prior to employment basically are a way to hone skills and butter people up for when you do ask for employment

Edited June 8, 2016 by tartarsauce2

[dazzerfong]

Considering you're an artist, there's a lot more stuff out there besides be a mod maker, so I'll say you can translate those skills to a job if you cared enough about it. As much as the idea of paid modding and how much it excites me, it's deniable that the first attempt was executed very poorly, with very little announcement and poor transition.

 

That being said, not quite sure why you made that video and give it such title, or the title of this thread TBH. Also, be careful of your topology of your armour and the flow of it: still looks a bit like a clay structure now.

[Di0nysys]

 

Previously, I was just a player, so I can honestly say about our attitude to the creators of the mods.

We do not like a lot of the game, we want new items. We want only the best things, and we want it for free.

In most cases, we do not wonder who made the mod. We do not know that the best work is occupied by a month or more, and it is a very difficult job. And we do not want to thank and support these people.

Now I'm working on better armor for the fallout 4. This will be the best of what I see now. This is the only thing I do. Then "die" another artist. Because I can not afford to exist as an individual developer and do for you is free.

Community Skyrim players decided to leave the creation of mods as a hobby. But it was the decision of the players and we did not ask their creators. We condemn these people to destroy as developers.

I'm for a free society, but also fair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChZ2bxBldXM

 

Everyone in and around the modding community is allowed to benefit from the creation of mods, except for the modders themselves.

You put hundreds up hundreds of hours learning how to do things, working on stuff, bugfixing and maintaining these pieces of content. Yet the entitled users expect it all for free. Hosting sites get to collect ad revenue, youtubers get to have ad revenue, Bethesda gets it's sales, and users get their free mods. You? You're stuck doing heaps of work, and are attacked if you ever so think of getting something out of it.

 

 

[Reneer]

It's always fun listening to people claiming to know / be the authority on what "true" and "real" modding is.

[tartarsauce2]

well if it were paid for it'd just be DLC
it's the vernacular of gamers

it's a bit preachy to say true and real modding, but mods are free, DLC is paid for

it's like saying artificial selection is GMO to call paid mods mods and not DLC, there's genes, there's modifications, but it's not the same thing at all

[EvgeniiYashkov]

it's deniable that the first attempt was executed very poorly, with very little announcement and poor transition.

 

It's true. I have the same opinion.

[RattleAndGrind]

 

I'm for a free society, but also fair.

 

I am just as much a newbie as you, and even I can see that you are in the wrong place.

 

If you want fair, move to a different cosmos. This one is decidedly unfair. Get past it.

 

If you want to get paid for you mods, remove them from NEXUS and put them on a site that has a Pay-Per-Download payment system.

 

Good luck.

 

Edited because I can neither spell or type.

Edited June 8, 2016 by RattleAndGrind