marharth Posted November 6, 2011 Posted November 6, 2011 I have seen quite a few people make the claim that taxation at its core is theft, and therefore morally incorrect and should not be done. This is about the morals of it. Thought I would go ahead and make a topic to see how it goes.
Balagor Posted November 6, 2011 Posted November 6, 2011 Try to think of the utterly consequensis of NO taxation at all.Everyone build the road outside their own house. Won´t it be a hell of a bumpy road, and a lot more expensive? :sick:
McclaudEagle Posted November 6, 2011 Posted November 6, 2011 Sometimes, morals have to be thrown out the window in order to achieve things. If we weren't taxed, you wouldn't be sitting in a nice house, or using a PC, or having cars, etc. Besides, it's not really theft because when you're paying taxes, you've agreed to it.
Aurielius Posted November 6, 2011 Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) Try to think of the utterly consequensis of NO taxation at all.Everyone build the road outside their own house. Won´t it be a hell of a bumpy road, and a lot more expensive? :sick:I'll add the old saw.."There is no such thing as a free lunch", if you want civic infrastructure, Police ,Firemen, Courts, Disaster Teams and Military protection from foreign foes then you have to pay for that...and thats called taxation. Edited November 6, 2011 by Aurielius
JimboUK Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 The problem isn't taxation, as stated you need that for roads, defence, ect. The problem is when the governments use the money to buy votes, waste it on dogma driven projects or like the last Labour government here help themselves to it.
marharth Posted November 7, 2011 Author Posted November 7, 2011 This is more about the morals of taxation, was aimed more at the libertarians that post here.
greywaste Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 Well it's important that we differentiate based upon the type of tax, sales tax vs income tax for instance. I'm talking about income tax here and morally while I can't bring myself to use the term 'theft' I believe that it's lying more in blackmail/coercion territory - since it's more a case of "Don't want to pay? well good luck putting food on your table" It goes unquestioned by most due to either approval or conditioning, a conditioning that has instilled in us the belief that we have a collective right to the fruits of another persons labour.Without going into the various other scams governments come up with to take your earnings (Here in Denmark, the "media licence" is a beautiful example - Want broadband? Then you'd better fork out for a licence, all payments made to the state run broadcasting corporation. You can of course opt out by either forgoing internet access or purchase a sub 128k connection and good luck with that) I think that income tax levying has gone to the politicians heads. I prefer sales taxes, there's an element of choice which I think is a hallmark of a supposedly free society and they are less invasive upon peoples liberty and lifestyle choices.
marharth Posted November 7, 2011 Author Posted November 7, 2011 Why is sales tax any worse? Income tax requires you to work, but so does a sales tax. You can't buy things without making a income.
lukertin Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 If you don't like paying taxes move to China. I say that to everyone who whines about having to pay income and sales tax.
mythicdawnmaster Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 it is simple you have to pay no length of moaning and whining will change that, it is simply the law im not being mean but it is true.
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