FGmodule Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) So I'm getting CTD's around Mass Gravel & Sand, specifically near the broken two storey store where there's always a random encounter (usually something like BoS vs. Synths or robots). I get CTD's elsewhere in the Commonwealth as well, but I've been able to guarantee a CTD there within a minute every single time. I manage my load order with LOOT, and I also check every mod I install with FO4edit to make sure it shouldn't have any incompatibilities. I'm fairly sure it's not a load order issue, as my load order has been fine for quite a while and the CTD's have only popped up in the last couple of days. The only mods I've between before I started getting the CTD's and after are Do It Yourshelf (to version 0.9.4, then version 1.0), Synth Overhaul (from version 2.0 to 2.1) and Homemaker (from 1.34 to 1.35). I've speculated that it could be Do It Yourshelf as the latest version adds some scripts. I've enabled the Papyrus logs to try and see what's going on, but they haven't helped. I'm not really sure what I should be looking for in there, or what's normal. But it could be some rogue script running or something, but I don't know how to tell what's causing the issue, if scripts are the issue. I've tried the old trick that would occasionally work for Skyrim of going to an interior cell and sleeping/waiting for 30 days so the cells can reset. Didn't help. I've also tried running the game with and without enb (to see if it's a vram issue, hasn't made any difference). I've speculated that it could be a mesh issue (missing mesh perhaps), but I've no idea how I would find out what mesh is causing the issue. So I'm getting some what at the end of my ropes. I'm not sure what further diagnosing I can do. Any help, advice or tips would be greatly appreciated. (UPDATE) I found the problem. It was a corrupt texture. For anyone else looking to see if textures are causing CTD's, rename your texture folder to something else, and load the game. If the CTD's go away, chances are the issue is a corrupt texture. From there you can isolate certain texture folders until you narrow it down. I wasn't aware that corrupt textures could cause CTD's, so if you're googling how to fix CTD's consider textures! Edited June 17, 2016 by FGmodule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royhr Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Man figuring out CTDs can drive you crazy. Seems like nobody gets exactly the same ones so it's like almost impossible to figure out. Is it a game issue, or a mod issue, a load order issue or what. For the longest time after the 1.5 update my game stabelized to the point that I never had any CTD issues at all even though many people still reported as to having them. Some people said that they actually had an increase of CTDs. Well recently I've started seeing CTDs again myself where I'll randomly CTD (though no specific locations). Restart the game, load my last save, and I'll CTD at the same location again. So I'll just leave and avoid that area. Sometimes if I return to that area again I will not CTD though sometimes I will. I've actually gotten to point that if I start to CTD too often then I try reverting back to an older save which sometimes works though sometimes it doesn't. I've also gotten to the point where I just say screw it and start a new game figuring maybe it was just an issue with corrupted saves. Again it just too difficult to try to figure out or at least it is for me. Since I'm never obsessed with finishing the main quest starting over is never an issue for me but I can see where it would be others.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGmodule Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 Man figuring out CTDs can drive you crazy. Seems like nobody gets exactly the same ones so it's like almost impossible to figure out. Is it a game issue, or a mod issue, a load order issue or what. For the longest time after the 1.5 update my game stabelized to the point that I never had any CTD issues at all even though many people still reported as to having them. Some people said that they actually had an increase of CTDs. Well recently I've started seeing CTDs again myself where I'll randomly CTD (though no specific locations). Restart the game, load my last save, and I'll CTD at the same location again. So I'll just leave and avoid that area. Sometimes if I return to that area again I will not CTD though sometimes I will. I've actually gotten to point that if I start to CTD too often then I try reverting back to an older save which sometimes works though sometimes it doesn't. I've also gotten to the point where I just say screw it and start a new game figuring maybe it was just an issue with corrupted saves. Again it just too difficult to try to figure out or at least it is for me. Since I'm never obsessed with finishing the main quest starting over is never an issue for me but I can see where it would be others.... That does sound similar to what's happening to me. I CTD quite a bit in the Commonwealth worldspace. There are a few areas I can always get a CTD from, and others it's a little iffy. I just got a CTD from trying to leave Diamond City (crashed at the loading screen). I've tried it with numerous saves, some will just go straight to CTD (must be in a worldspace that's crashing), but even my oldest saves (with a full day less of play time) have the same problem. So I don't think it's a corrupt save issue. I'm convinced at this point it has to be a problem at Bethesda's end. In all of my Papyrus logs, I've got the line "Cannot open store for class "Patch_1_6_Script", missing file?", but I've verified the games cache through Steam. I guess I'll just have to wait for the next patch and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royhr Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Well if it is happening with even real old saves then you are correct that it's most likely not a corrupted save issue. Now if you already mentioned this then ignore what I'm asking. Have you tried turning off your pluggins to see if you still crash in those know areas where you always crash? And even actually disabling all of your mods as well? Also you have tried verifying your game cache correct? I'm guessing you have but thought I'd ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGmodule Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 I've verified the game cache, but I haven't tried disabling my plugins entirely yet. I've got so many active that disabling them would cause more issues. And for the most part my plugin setup was stable for quite a long time. I've tried disabling and rolling back the plugins I've updated and installed from around the time the crashes started happening, but to no avail. I've also tried digging around the esp's for any mods I think could be contributing, looking for clashes or errors, but haven't found anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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