Completely Bizarre Gamebreaking Bug of Unknown Origin

[fulgate]

Okay. My game was working fine, but then I decided I would change my player's appearance, so I typed showracemenu into the console. Race menu comes up, just like it's supposed to, but then I realise I had forgotten to take off my grand ring of light, and I'm glowing so badly that I can't see my face. So I load my last save in order to take the ring off and try again.

 

CTD.

 

I restart and load the game. But now, my character will not respond to my controls. He is transparent and kind of blue, like a ghost. He just moves backwards. I can bring up his inventory, and unequip his armor/weapons, but they stay on his body in his picture, and his body is invisible.

 

Loading the most recent and previous two saves produces this result. Loading any other save immediately crashes the game.

 

I have tried resetting my hair using the showracemenu fix mod, it was not helpful. I tried restoring my face from an earlier save using Wrye Bash, I just got an infinite loading screen when I tried to load the save. I'm at a loss.

 

Here is my mod list:

 

 

 

00 Oblivion.esm
01 SettlementsOfCyrodiil.esm [Version 1.3]
02 SpokCommon.esm
03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.8b1]
05 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 6.0.7]
06 BathingMod_Base.esm
07 CLS-Craftybits.esm
08 TantrivayliaChimer.esm
09 Lamps of Oblivion Master.esm
0A CM Partners.esm
0B mergort.esp
0C DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0D Better Cities .esp [Version 6.0.5]
0E Natural Selection.esp [Version 1.0]
0F 00OldePaintings.esp
10 1em_GiveAGift.esp [Version 1.2]
11 AliveWaters.esp
12 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
13 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
14 Torch Hotkey.esp
15 Ducks and Swans.esp
16 SwampGrass.esp
17 Lamps of Oblivion.esp
18 More_Vegetables.esp
19 MYR_AyleidExtensions.esp [Version 1.0]
1A Maigrets House Cats.esp
1B Maigrets Pet Fox.esp
1C PTFallingStars.esp
1D Ravens and Seagulls.esp
1E YourMotherWasAHamster.esp
1F Streamline 3.1.esp
20 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3]
21 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3]
22 DLCHorseArmor.esp
23 DLCOrrery.esp
24 DLCVileLair.esp
25 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
26 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
27 Ayleid Artifacts.esp
28 Animated Staves.esp
29 ACCCGR SI.esp
2A BlueAndWhitePorcelain - Full.esp
2B Defensive_staves_Immersive.esp
2C Defensive_staves_Chest_Optional.esp
2D Immersive Weapons.esp
2E Instruments of Cyrodiil.esp
2F KDDwemerSpectacles.esp
30 MC_Staff_Pack.esp
31 RinzeiCrystalStaff_Unenchanted.esp
32 RZWPortableCandles.esp
33 Unenchanted Staves.esp
34 HRMHorseArmor.esp
35 Horse Management.esp [Version 1.31-SI]
36 DLCThievesDen.esp
37 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
38 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
++ CB-Cobl_Glue.esp
39 Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.8b1]
3A Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp [Version 3.8b1]
3B Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b7]
3C Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b7]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp [Version 3.8b1]
3D Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.8b1]
3E Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.8b1]
3F Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.8b1]
40 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.8b1]
41 Creature Diversity.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Ghostly Appariation.esp [Version 3.8b1]
42 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creatures Expansion.esp [Version 3.8b1]
43 Mart's Monster Mod - Mummies.esp
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
44 SOC-RegionalFarms.esp
45 Trade and Commerce.esp
46 Adventurers Guild.esp
47 AleswellHomeQuest.esp
48 AleswellCOBLaddon.esp
49 Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp
4A Amaterasu no Yume.esp
4B AnorielsCrossroadsManor1.2.esp
4C AranMathi.esp
4D Azure_Palace.esp
++ compat2.esp
4E Red Diamond Jewerly.esp
4F Better Benirus Manor.esp [Version 5.01-Cobl-SI]
50 BettysAnimalPlanet.esp
51 Colovian Barrow Mounds.esp
52 Castle Arpenia - Gold Coast.esp
53 Castle_Highrock.esp
54 (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp
55 Divine EleganceEnglishV.esp
56 Dwemer Ruins.esp
57 EM_Cheydinhalhouse1.esp
58 COBL_EMCheydinhalSwanCottage.esp
59 EM_FarmAnimals1.esp
5A Fighters Guild Quests.esp
++ Highrock-FGQ Patch.esp
5B Flying Island House.esp
5C Highwood.esp
5D Highwood-Cobl-Support.esp
5E ICEXPAND.esp [Version 6.0.0]
5F Kragenir's Death Quest.esp
60 KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp
61 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 3.0]
++ Kvatch Rebuilt Fixes.esp
++ Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp
62 KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp
63 Li-TheresasLaden-EV.esp
64 Mafreseli.esp
65 Mage'sSkyHouse.esp
66 MSHaddon-cobl.esp
67 MSHaddon-SI.esp
68 MTCExpandedVillages.esp
69 Museum.esp
6A mythsandlegends.esp
6B Nightmist Manor.esp [Version 1.22]
6C Players with Jobs.esp
6D Shivering Isles Root System.esp
6E Snow Dragon Temple v1.0.esp [Version 1.1]
6F Star's Rest.esp [Version 3.03-Cobl]
70 Tantrivaylia.esp
71 Theryon.esp
72 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.6.6]
73 TheVaultofOrder.esp
74 TolawaylAyleidCity_Quest.esp
75 akavirikojima.esp
76 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp [Version 6.0.0]
77 Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp
78 WellDiver.esp
79 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
7A DLCBattlehornCastleCOBL.esp
7B DLCFrostcrag.esp
7C AFK_Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.2.COBL]
7D BrumaMGRestored.esp
7E BrumaMGRestored-Frostcrag.esp
7F Frostcrag Addon.esp
80 Knights.esp
81 FishermansCottage.esp [Version 3]
82 The Lost Spires.esp
83 Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp
84 Shadowcrest_Vineyard_GuardCOBL.esp
85 LegionOutposts.esp
86 Daedric Shrine Ruins.esp
87 ElsweyrAnequina.esp
88 ElsweyrCityExtension.esp
89 Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp
++ ElsweyrAnequinaNoSpidersPatch.esp
8A Elsweyr plantations & co..esp
8B Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp
8C BettysButterflies.esp
8D Boqwater_Settlement_V103.esp
8E ClearwaterFarms.esp
8F Oranstad.esp
90 MTC-Oranstad Patch.esp
91 ShezriesTownsMaster.esp
92 MTC-LostSpires-Shezries Patch.esp
93 SilverfishFalls.esp
94 CloudTopManor.esp
95 WhiteRoseFarm.esp
96 WickmereFarm.esp
97 BrinaCrossVillage.esp [Version 1.0.3]
98 BrinaCrossVillage -- COBL.esp
99 bartholm.esp
9A Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp
9B Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
9C Elys Invest More.esp
++ New_Magical_Staves.esp
9D ORM-TamriellicGlassCORE.esp
9E P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]
9F P1DKeyChainSI Merged.esp
A0 CLS-Craftybits.esp
A1 BathingMod_Soap.esp
A2 BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp
A3 BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp
A4 PTArcheryRange.esp
A5 Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp
A6 CM Partners.esp
A7 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
A8 CM Partners NPC.esp
A9 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
AA LakesideHome.esp [Version 2.]
AB LakesideHomeCOBLaddon.esp
AC Valtierro_B1.esp
AD Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]
AE Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0]
AF Better Cities Full.esp [Version 6.0.7]
B0 Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 6.0.7]
++ Better Cities IC Arboretum - Kragenir's Death Quest.esp [Version 6.0.7]
++ FGQ-BC6 Patch.esp
B1 Kragenirs-LegionOutposts-BC6 Patch.esp
B2 Better Cities - Lost Spires - Adventurers Guild.esp
++ Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 6.0.4]
B3 RegionalFarms-BC6 Patch.esp
B4 Universitum Arcanorum.esp
++ CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp
B5 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]
++ No More Gatestorm on Oblivion gates-9654.esp
++ IC BattleMage Remark Removed-6373.esp
B6 FiokEBV.esp
B7 East_Island_Nirai-Kanai.esp
++ Star's Rest - Brighter Interior.esp [Version 3.03]
B8 Black Marsh Hall.esp [Version 1.4]
B9 Black Marsh Hall - Cobl Patch.esp [Version 1.4]
BA AlchemyShop_v1.0.esp
BB Benirus Manor Rebuilt.esp [Version 1.1-BBM]
BC Benirus Manor Rebuilt - Cobl Patch.esp [Version 1.1]
BD Ellesynd_Estate.esp
BE Skooma in the Shivering Isles.esp
BF OWAnvilChapelRestored.esp
++ compat1.esp
C0 cassie_completehairandeyes.esp
C1 BrumasNorthernLights.esp
C2 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 6.0.7]
C3 Bashed Patch3.esp
C4 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
C5 mergenziepatchenzie.esp
C6 catch.esp
C7 catch22.esp

 

 

 

mergort.esp is a merge of:

 

 

Fundament.esm
Skillbookssave.esp
Underwater.esp
KB - House of Wonders.esp
FGPorter_nofollow.esp
MoveQuestItems - OBSE.esp
Respawning Clams1.esp
Redecoration.esp
Populated Prisons.esp
Custom Autosave.esp
NoHelmet.esp
qazSteerHorsesWithMouse.esp
Ivellon.esp
Bandit Hideouts.esp
Big Business.esp
Chorrol_Dungeon.esp
Cathedral Improver.esp
Ruins of Aeris Zul.esp
The Retreat.esp
VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
HanstHolm village.esp
Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp
New_Magical_Staves.esp
Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp
Speedy Disrobe OBSE.esp
Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp
VisiblyUnlimited.esp
quickstart.esp
NudeSpell.esp
SINAZ_Soulcraft.esp
Enchantment Enhanced.esp
IThieveryRaiseVeryHard.esp
Bundlement.esp
Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp
Legendary Abilities-Shield MOJ.esp
SaveSkillTrainingForLater.esp
All Spells Avalible for Enchanting and Spell Making.esp
Birthsigns Revamped.esp
No More Annoying Merchant Comments - Combined.esp
LightSpellWhiteDimmer.esp
Quantity at 10.esp
Bandit_Creepy_Castle.esp
NightBanditsOnRoads.esp
GreaterSouls.esp
Fall Damage Fixer - Level 100.esp
AyleidRuinsDegreenified.esp
Blessings of the Divines.esp
BottomlessBandits.esp

 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

[Oblivionaddicted]

Disable a group of mods, start your game, check if the problem persists until you find the culprit.

[fulgate]

Disable a group of mods, start your game, check if the problem persists until you find the culprit.

 

Thanks for responding!

 

I just disabled all my mods and loaded my save. It didn't fix the glitch, but instead of moving backwards I'm floating in the air and spinning. I can kind of move around with the directional keys a little, but I am being spun around in a slow circle that I can't control, so my movement is severely limited. I can't attack or cast. I can open my inventory, load and save the game, and use the console.

 

I guess it must not be a mod. I was sure it must be because I have so many. Unless there's something I'm not thinking of.

[MunchusUniversalis]

A save game does not contain 100% of the data the game uses while running. Loading a new game while in showracemenu mode almost certainly carried over some dynamic data from the racemenu state into the loaded game, thus messing up the game. In general, in a case like that it would have been better to quit, then restart the game and load. If you are playing normally, get killed, then reload a state very much like the last one, reloading in-game is a viable option. But the only really safe way to reload is from a fresh game start to ensure nothing is carried over.

 

Quitting, restarting and loading an old save should fix the problem. If it doesn't, then it must have messed up an ini file, most likely the one in the same folder as the saves. If you have a backup of that, you may be able to fix the problem easily. If not, your only real hope is to pick through it and hope you find something that seems wrong. Some mods make ini tweaks, so if you just replace it with a default, you may find some of your mods not working right. Then you'd have to reinstall them all, unless you know what is the source of the problem.

[fulgate]

A save game does not contain 100% of the data the game uses while running. Loading a new game while in showracemenu mode almost certainly carried over some dynamic data from the racemenu state into the loaded game, thus messing up the game. In general, in a case like that it would have been better to quit, then restart the game and load. If you are playing normally, get killed, then reload a state very much like the last one, reloading in-game is a viable option. But the only really safe way to reload is from a fresh game start to ensure nothing is carried over.

 

Quitting, restarting and loading an old save should fix the problem. If it doesn't, then it must have messed up an ini file, most likely the one in the same folder as the saves. If you have a backup of that, you may be able to fix the problem easily. If not, your only real hope is to pick through it and hope you find something that seems wrong. Some mods make ini tweaks, so if you just replace it with a default, you may find some of your mods not working right. Then you'd have to reinstall them all, unless you know what is the source of the problem.

 

You saved the day again, Munch. I went back and found an older save that is working! I lost a few hours of gameplay, but it's a lot better than having to start from scratch. You really saved my skin, thank you.