zanity Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I might be way off base but all I can find under mods is tweaks or improvements to existing content. There isn't a single new mission line mod or new area to explore? I loved fallout 3 because the mods completely changed the game and gave you a second replay new an unexpected twists and turns. All I see are cosmetic mods, tweak mods etc nothing new? I want to replay the game but I'd like something new before I go about it.The vanilla game, from a story POV, is so very, very, very very LAME, enthusiasm for this kind of mod seems to be killed of by its pointlessness. This combines with a VERY broken engine- a consequence of a lot of cheap-n-dirt hard-coded 'tricks' (which leads to nasty issues like the 'cell reset bug' and the 'dragons fly thru buildings bug'). Whoops, did I say 'dragons'? Am I implying Beth just took the dragon code from Skyrim and slapped it into FO4 for the vertibirds? Yeah, the game code is THAT bad. Then there's the dreadful Havoc animation issue. Then there's the cynical updates Beth keeps releasing, changing the rules. Then there's the draw of paid mods on bethg.net, if modders focus on TRIVIAL popular 'horse armor' style mods that the console crown adore. Beth has really pulled out all the stops this time to make the latest Fallout game a mod 'winner'- not! And Skyrim story mods are so wonderful and well established, and Skyrim is being re-released so many story modders, despite what they claim, will be going back to where their efforts are much more fruitful. There was a LOT of hope for the new Fallout game BEFORE it was released- but the cold light of reality has killed most of that. It gets worse- the DEATH of 'resurrection' shows that Nexus promotion of anti-open-source dev policies KILLS most derived ambitious meta mods that could transform the world. IMPLICIT co-operation is discouraged around here (it's EXPLICIT or nothing- unlike in the grown-up world of the free open source community), and that policy makes the fixing of FO4 far far more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royhr Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Man Zanity.... Post after post of complaining about everything. Now don't get me wrong. You have every right to do so. It's a free country but after a while it does start to get pretty old. If you dislike the game so much like you have proven already then why not just go play something else (maybe go back to Skyrim or something)? Why do you even bother to continually rant on and on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamBacon Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Man Zanity.... Post after post of complaining about everything. Now don't get me wrong. You have every right to do so. It's a free country but after a while it does start to get pretty old. If you dislike the game so much like you have proven already then why not just go play something else (maybe go back to Skyrim or something)? Why do you even bother to continually rant on and on? Zanity's goal is to demoralize and chase away as many mod creators from this website as possible. Problem is that none of them take him seriously enough to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royhr Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Man Zanity.... Post after post of complaining about everything. Now don't get me wrong. You have every right to do so. It's a free country but after a while it does start to get pretty old. If you dislike the game so much like you have proven already then why not just go play something else (maybe go back to Skyrim or something)? Why do you even bother to continually rant on and on? Zanity's goal is to demoralize and chase away as many mod creators from this website as possible. Problem is that none of them take him seriously enough to care. :facepalm: Actually I know that. I've been seeing him post his anti everything crap everywhere on these forums. I just had the need, though foolishly as it probably was, to just say something once. Though it won't matter because he's proven that he could care less what people think about what he's ranting about. But again I just had the urge to say what I did.... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaffTheSweetling Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 It's a free country but after a while it does start to get pretty old... I keep seeing that comment - "It's a free country", here on the Nexus, and it always makes me think about living back in China, where I had no Facebook, or Youtube, or Twitter, and Google was heavily moderated and would completely stop working after a couple of searches. :) The world is globalised, you know. The country you are in may be "free", but this interweb thingy crosses lots of borders. Every time I see "It's a free country", I kind of want to :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NexusFiles Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Multiple people, me included, are working on one. There's a lot of issues, updates, new content etc. that keeps delaying it. And that's without even mentioning how the CK is utter s***. Your second line is dead on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lelcat Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Multiple people, me included, are working on one. There's a lot of issues, updates, new content etc. that keeps delaying it. And that's without even mentioning how the CK is utter s***. Your second line is dead on. I disagree, the creation kit is reasonably user-friendly in Fallout 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NexusFiles Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Multiple people, me included, are working on one. There's a lot of issues, updates, new content etc. that keeps delaying it. And that's without even mentioning how the CK is utter s***. Your second line is dead on. I disagree, the creation kit is reasonably user-friendly in Fallout 4. It is a crash o holic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartarsauce2 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) just the nature of creating a damn story is difficult, think about it, a convincing story, now think of how many people make a living writing, oh I don't know...BOOKS. how many people can do standup comedy well? a good standup joke is basically a really short funny storyhow many are good, how many are trash? pulp fiction isn't just a movie, it's a descriptive term to things that were basically to books what call of duty is to games, wham bam thank you ma'am /toss in dumpsterat 2nd hand stores you see a LOT of romance novels by a certain author or two, or at least I did in places when looking for interesting books, it's hard to make a good storymy profile has a thread on a setup, but it's easier to make the base structure more feasible to producing a real story if you have a world to work within it, and that's really lacking in FO4 I think, overall it might end up better for the quest mods stuff, who knows, we might populate it so completely ourselves with our own visions that as a whole it's better somehow, but for now at least, making an interesting quest, or even a spinoff variation to an existing quest, is difficult.I mean, look at what you're trying to dohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storyboardeven existing stories ripped STRAIGHT from another medium's work, would need to be retooled for the medium (video games in this case) and for plays there's a special word for that workhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dramaturgystories are hard. I don't even know about cells etc, I think if I knew how to do a cell from a technical standpoint I could probably imagine and whip up like 5 of them in a day or something stupid because I have a special knack for going from snowball to avalanche in the imagination department for certain things and getting into a work frenzy, but even then I'd lack all the nice touches and details to make it *good* and at best it'd take me a week to finish it off or ask someone else to do it and whine and beg and plead lol Edited June 23, 2016 by tartarsauce2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamBacon Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 It is a crash o holic. It's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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