nemo3590 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 SHORT VERSIONWhen I try to load a saved game, any of them, even brand-new ones, I get a CTD within seconds of loading. Well, not all the time, it'll load maybe 1 out of 5 times. I've tried fiddling with the save files and the .ini, but nothing seems to make much of a difference. I've googled my problem, but I can't find anything quite like this. I don't get any error messages or anything, just a CTD. LONG VERSIONI have a heavily-modded GOTY disc version of Oblivion with hundreds of hours on it. I saw that Steam was offering the game for $5 and thought it would be a good idea to have a digital as well as a disc version, so I bought and downloaded it. I wasn't expecting it to hijack my .ini file and my saves. My original version was all messed up (dunno how to describe it--my mods were deactivated and left the game funky-looking) so I uninstalled and re-installed it. That seemed to fix the graphical problems and reloaded my mods just fine, but now I almost always get a CTD when I try to load any save, even new ones. I can start new games just fine, and everything looks alright, but I can almost never load it or any other. Any help on how to fix this? I'll be happy to give more information if you think you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakirev Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Are you by any chance loading auto- and/or quicksaves? There are known bugs involving these. They should be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo3590 Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 It happens with any save, auto or named. I don't use quicksaves. I tried first changing the auto's filenames, then deleting them completely. I still got crashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo3590 Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 New Information: I disabled almost all my mods, and the saves seemed to work. I reactivated them, and they didn't. So it seems one of my mods is to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakirev Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Before you try the 50% rule--disabling 50% of your mods, seeing if that works, disabling 50% of what's left if it doesn't, enabling 50% of what you previously disabled if it does, etc--post your modlist in loading order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo3590 Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 I have about 150 mods. I can't seem to copy>paste the load order, and it would take too long to write down, so I'm going to see if I can just post screenshots of my OBMM. http://lakiver.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=scraps#/d4gbzr6http://lakiver.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=scraps#/d4gbztvhttp://lakiver.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=scraps#/d4gbzw4http://lakiver.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=scraps#/d4gbzxc I've disabled a few, and now it works more often than it doesn't. Maybe over time I'll wheedle it down until the problem goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakirev Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I'm afraid that doesn't help. Many mods are displayed abbreviated in OBMM, and loading order is hard to determine. Do you have Wrye Bash? That lists everything in loading order, as well as pointing out mods lacking parents, mod versions, and some conflicts. It also offers tools to repair saved games, and has plenty of other functions (that aren't important right now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker879 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 An easy way to post your load order using OBMM is hit the 'Import/Export' button (bottom button on right side) and select 'View load order' from the presented menu. Left click, hold and drag down the entire list to highlight it and then Ctrl + C to copy it. In your forum post here where you want the list to start put in ["spoiler"] without the quote marks need for it to show in this post and then do a Ctrl + V to paste in your load order. At the bottom of the load order put in ["/spoiler"] (again without the quote marks). Wrye Bash offers a more complete and useful active mod list report (to those who know how to interpret it) but this will get your list posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo3590 Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 I have Wrye Bash, but I haven't learned how to use it yet in any meaningful way. Reveal hidden contents Oblivion.esmMorrowind_ob.esmHemingweys Capes Improved.esmCM Partners.esmGoblin Race.esmRace Repository.esmNo Lights Flicker.esmEnhanced Daedric Invasion.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmKvatch Rebuilt.esmArmamentarium.esmCastleWestWeald.esmMorrowind_ob - Morroblivion Maps.espMorrowOblivion_World Transport.espUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOPS Additional Changes.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espSounds of Cyrodiil.espC&C - The Blackwood Company.espAdonnays Elven Weaponry.espEY_Vampirehunter.espJedi LightSabers with Sound.espKDCirclets.espKDClothCirclets.espKohdiAnduril.espSauron_Armor_Chest.espSG015_Leia.espTT-EquipableBeards.espTT-EquipableBeardsLEVELEDLIST.espLevelerCheat.espTrade and Commerce.espBetter Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.espServant of the Dawn.espKnights.espThe Lost Spires.espBag of Holding.espP1DkeyChain.espDisenchant.espAlternative Start by Robert Evrae.espSupremeMagicka.espMorrowind_ob - Morroblivion_Chargen_And_Transport_Mod_v8.espSM_ShiveringIsles.espSM_EnchantStaff.espSM_Scrolls.espMorrowind_ob - Almalexia.espMorrowind_ob - MorrowOblivion Eloth Landscape & Grass for v033.espMorrowind_ob - Conversation.espMorrowind_ob - ClothingReplacer.espSM_SigilStone.espImperishable Varla Stones.espMorrowind_ob - MorroblivionTreeReplacer.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCBattlehornCastle.esp_Ren_BeautyPack_full.espStreamline 3.1.espX.Falmer.espKT_CustomRaceFix.espMidasSpells_1.espsting.espGandalfStaff.espOblivion Cats v0.2b.espLich.espHemingweys Capes Improved.espLegion Faction Mod.espGuards.espRenGuardOverhaul.espJpm's Miniature Necromancy.espBrotherhoodRenewed.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.espMannimarcoComplete.espMidasSpells.espDwarf.espHalfling.espAMB.esp300_White Stallion 4.espCM Partners.espSoT_TheOrderofNibenay.espStopDarkBrotherhood.espBirthsign Zero.espBirthsigns Expanded.espLuchaire's Dryad Race.espn_Dywyll_Elves.espPlayable Goblin.esp'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.espgoldenarrowarcheryshopfixedprices.espArcaneArchery.espFGPorter_nofollow.espcyrodiil transportation network 1.3 wz.espCyrodiil transportation network 1.3.espLetThePeopleDrink.espmoremerchantmoneyv1.1.espza_bankmod.espKT_KhajEyeToggle.espRealisticFatigue.espBadderFireFX.espBadderFrostFX.espBadderShockFX.espWillful Resistance.espEnhanced Daedric Invasion.espGuild Map Markers.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espMorrowind_ob - MorroblivionWater.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCOrrery.espDLCVileLair.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espSteve - Thieves Guils HQ.espCheydinhal Petshop.espmrSiikas_DwemerTechnology_DwemerSubway.espCrossbows of Cyrodiil.espVA_GlamdringSword.espMod Chest.espDruid Mod.espDungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.espWarriorBandages_V2.0.espExterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.espImperial Horse Armor.espMart's Monster Mod.espMart's Monster Mod - City Defences.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.espMart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.espMart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.espMart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.espMart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.espMart's Monster Mod - Reduced Spawn Rates.espMart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.espKvatch Rebuilt.espAlluring Potion Bottles v3.espBook Jackets Oblivion.espLeviathan Soulgems.espElsweyrAnequina.espAyleid.espArmamentariumLL.espArmamentariumLLMagic.espArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.espLoadingScreens.espEnchantment Enhanced.espCastleWestWeald.espBetter Benirus Manor.espBashed Patch, 0.espMerong_Zarroc_EV.espMerong - Brisingr.espMysterious Bear's Epic Necromancy + EM.espFighters Guild Quests.espAkatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.espACCCGR SI.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakirev Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Quote I have Wrye Bash, but I haven't learned how to use it yet in any meaningful way. Click the Mods tab. Right-click above your modlist and select List Mods. Then simply copy the list, here. Since you've added or removed any mods from the game, have you rebuilt your Bashed Patch? It needs to reflect current mod content, or that could be your reason for crashing. Also, under your Saves tab, does the saved game you're trying to load show up with a purple background for the checkmark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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