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Is there a way to determine what is causing CTDs?


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I recently started playing Morrowind again, and I get random CTDs every 10-15 minutes. It doesn't seem to have some in-game trigger, it happens at random moments.

 

I'm using MGSO, GCD, and Tireless Running. I also downloaded a newer version of Morrowind Code Patch after I installed MGSO. I have attribute and skill uncapper OFF in morrowind code patch to prevent conflicts with GCD.

 

Originally I thought it was some admin thing, so I tried reinstalling morrowind away from C/program files and running everything as an admin, but that doens't seem to have helped.

 

I don't have any evidence for this, but I suspect it may be something with GCD, because last time I played I only used MGSO and Tireless Running and very rarely got any crashes. But I was also on a different computer and different OS then and it was years and years ago, so maybe it's something else. Could it be because I am now on windows 10?

 

Mostly I am wondering if there is some kind of crash dump log, or a mod that will make one. I have been trying to find info on these forums about it but I haven't managed to find it (although I'm sure I'll find something useful as soon as I post this...)

 

I kept all the default options with MGSO, and my specs are probably not the issue. I'm running my native res in a window. Also, drivers are updated.

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I tried using mlox, I'm still getting periodic crashes. This is what is in the warnings.txt file:

 

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_2_f.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_2_f.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_2_f.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_2_f.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_2_f.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_2_f.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_5.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_5.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_5.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_5.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not sure if any of that could cause a CTD...
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No, those are pretty much normal messages for people using Better Clothes. They have no effect in game. Little late here now, could you post your mod list (either from mlox or from morrowind.ini)? I'll maybe have a bit of time to look at it over the weekend?, although most of the stuff I know is in the mlox rule-set. Oh, and that warnings.txt is from a game which had just crashed?
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Yes, I had erased warnings.txt and then played until I crashed and then posted the newly generated one.

 

Here is my active plugin list from mlox:

_001_ Morrowind.esm
_002_ Tribunal.esm
_003_ Bloodmoon.esm
_004_ Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm
_005_ Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm
_006_ Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm
_007_ Texture Fix 2.0.esm
_008_ SirLuthor-Tools.esp
_009_ Unique Banners and Signs.esp
_010_ Windows Glow.esp
_011_ Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
_012_ JEB_muffin_fix.esp
_013_ Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
_014_ Galsiahs Character Development.esp
_015_ GCD StartScript for Trib or Bloodmoon.esp
_016_ Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
_017_ Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
_018_ Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
_019_ WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP
_020_ Better Skulls.ESP
_021_ Particle Arrow Replacer.esp
_022_ Psy_VGR_Armour.esp
_023_ MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp
_024_ Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp
_025_ correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
_026_ Bloated Caves.esp
_027_ ExcellentMagicSounds.esp
_028_ almalexia armor.esp
_029_ Tireless running.esp
_030_ AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp
_031_ abotWindowsGlow.esp
_032_ Statue Replacer - Normal.esp
_033_ bones.esp
_034_ Shieldfx.esp
_035_ Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp
_036_ Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp
_037_ Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp
_038_ Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
_039_ NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp
_040_ Neo's Unique Creatures.esp
_041_ BetterClothesForTB.esp
_042_ Psy_UniqueDremora_T.esp
_043_ More Better Clothes.ESP
_044_ Golden Gold.esp
_045_ New Voices.esp
_046_ Sleepers, Awake!.esp
_047_ guarskin_drum_replacer.esp
_048_ LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp
_049_ UniqueFinery.esp
_050_ Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp
_051_ Clean MCFC_1.0.esp
_052_ imperial chain fix.esp
_053_ UF_HortRobeF001.esp
_054_ Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp
_055_ New Bodies - Clean.esp
_056_ Female Armor - Complete.esp
_057_ Better Weapons and Armors.esp
_058_ OTR_Coast_Variety.esp
_059_ STA_guides_replacer.esp
_060_ MW Containers Animated.esp
_061_ Better Bodies.esp
_062_ GCD better balanced birthsigns.esp
_063_ GCD Restore Potions Fix.esp
_064_ Brittlewind fix.esp
_065_ Better_Sounds.esp
_066_ Graphic Herbalism.esp
_067_ True_Lights_And_Darkness_1.0-NoDaylight.esp
In short, it's basically just MGSO, tireless running, and GCD, with an updated morrowind code patch (installed after I installed MGSO)
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I also recommend the Gluby version. In addition, the potion restore fix may conflict with the latest MCP restore attributes fix. I haven't used the GCD restore esp myself but I know that the MCP changes have caused conflicts with other mods.

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I tried installing the gluby version and deactivating GCD's potion patch + the main original GCD + the main original GCD's start script (since gluby seems to include it) and running mlox again, but I'm still getting random "Morrowind has stopped working" every 5-30 minutes (on the same save as before, although I doubt a new one would be any better)

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