Is there a way to determine what is causing CTDs?

[iammax]

I recently started playing Morrowind again, and I get random CTDs every 10-15 minutes. It doesn't seem to have some in-game trigger, it happens at random moments.

 

I'm using MGSO, GCD, and Tireless Running. I also downloaded a newer version of Morrowind Code Patch after I installed MGSO. I have attribute and skill uncapper OFF in morrowind code patch to prevent conflicts with GCD.

 

Originally I thought it was some admin thing, so I tried reinstalling morrowind away from C/program files and running everything as an admin, but that doens't seem to have helped.

 

I don't have any evidence for this, but I suspect it may be something with GCD, because last time I played I only used MGSO and Tireless Running and very rarely got any crashes. But I was also on a different computer and different OS then and it was years and years ago, so maybe it's something else. Could it be because I am now on windows 10?

 

Mostly I am wondering if there is some kind of crash dump log, or a mod that will make one. I have been trying to find info on these forums about it but I haven't managed to find it (although I'm sure I'll find something useful as soon as I post this...)

 

I kept all the default options with MGSO, and my specs are probably not the issue. I'm running my native res in a window. Also, drivers are updated.

Edited July 7, 2016 by iammax

[Dragon32]

warnings.txt is Morrowind's error log.

 

My advice here applies: Crash to Desktop.

[iammax]

Didn't realize MGSO's verison of mlox was old, I"ll try updating it & my load order and see what happens, thanks for the tip

[iammax]

I tried using mlox, I'm still getting periodic crashes. This is what is in the warnings.txt file:

 

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_2_f.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_2_f.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_2_f.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_2_f.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_2_f.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_2_f.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_5.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_5.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_5.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_5.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

Not sure if any of that could cause a CTD...

[Dragon32]

No, those are pretty much normal messages for people using Better Clothes. They have no effect in game. Little late here now, could you post your mod list (either from mlox or from morrowind.ini)? I'll maybe have a bit of time to look at it over the weekend?, although most of the stuff I know is in the mlox rule-set. Oh, and that warnings.txt is from a game which had just crashed?

[iammax]

Yes, I had erased warnings.txt and then played until I crashed and then posted the newly generated one.

 

Here is my active plugin list from mlox:

_001_ Morrowind.esm

_002_ Tribunal.esm

_003_ Bloodmoon.esm

_004_ Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm

_005_ Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm

_006_ Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm

_007_ Texture Fix 2.0.esm

_008_ SirLuthor-Tools.esp

_009_ Unique Banners and Signs.esp

_010_ Windows Glow.esp

_011_ Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp

_012_ JEB_muffin_fix.esp

_013_ Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp

_014_ Galsiahs Character Development.esp

_015_ GCD StartScript for Trib or Bloodmoon.esp

_016_ Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp

_017_ Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp

_018_ Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp

_019_ WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP

_020_ Better Skulls.ESP

_021_ Particle Arrow Replacer.esp

_022_ Psy_VGR_Armour.esp

_023_ MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp

_024_ Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp

_025_ correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp

_026_ Bloated Caves.esp

_027_ ExcellentMagicSounds.esp

_028_ almalexia armor.esp

_029_ Tireless running.esp

_030_ AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp

_031_ abotWindowsGlow.esp

_032_ Statue Replacer - Normal.esp

_033_ bones.esp

_034_ Shieldfx.esp

_035_ Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp

_036_ Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp

_037_ Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp

_038_ Better Clothes_v1.1.esp

_039_ NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp

_040_ Neo's Unique Creatures.esp

_041_ BetterClothesForTB.esp

_042_ Psy_UniqueDremora_T.esp

_043_ More Better Clothes.ESP

_044_ Golden Gold.esp

_045_ New Voices.esp

_046_ Sleepers, Awake!.esp

_047_ guarskin_drum_replacer.esp

_048_ LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp

_049_ UniqueFinery.esp

_050_ Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp

_051_ Clean MCFC_1.0.esp

_052_ imperial chain fix.esp

_053_ UF_HortRobeF001.esp

_054_ Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp

_055_ New Bodies - Clean.esp

_056_ Female Armor - Complete.esp

_057_ Better Weapons and Armors.esp

_058_ OTR_Coast_Variety.esp

_059_ STA_guides_replacer.esp

_060_ MW Containers Animated.esp

_061_ Better Bodies.esp

_062_ GCD better balanced birthsigns.esp

_063_ GCD Restore Potions Fix.esp

_064_ Brittlewind fix.esp

_065_ Better_Sounds.esp

_066_ Graphic Herbalism.esp

_067_ True_Lights_And_Darkness_1.0-NoDaylight.esp

In short, it's basically just MGSO, tireless running, and GCD, with an updated morrowind code patch (installed after I installed MGSO)

Edited July 8, 2016 by iammax

[Dragon32]

Hrm, apart from suggesting Gluby's altered version of GCD (he made a few script changes which others have reported cut down on crashes for them) I'm really not sure.

[fragonard]

I also recommend the Gluby version. In addition, the potion restore fix may conflict with the latest MCP restore attributes fix. I haven't used the GCD restore esp myself but I know that the MCP changes have caused conflicts with other mods.

[iammax]

I'll try removing/updating those, thanks for the tips.

[iammax]

I tried installing the gluby version and deactivating GCD's potion patch + the main original GCD + the main original GCD's start script (since gluby seems to include it) and running mlox again, but I'm still getting random "Morrowind has stopped working" every 5-30 minutes (on the same save as before, although I doubt a new one would be any better)

Edited July 12, 2016 by iammax