anarkus Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 -If your file contains graphic scenes including but not limited to nudity, sex, masturbation, rape or torture then you increase your chances of Nexus staff removing your content at their own discretion and without warning. Well if we also have to avoid sex and nudity we should probably just delete this thread :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnie Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 -If your file contains graphic scenes including but not limited to nudity, sex, masturbation, rape or torture then you increase your chances of Nexus staff removing your content at their own discretion and without warning. Well if we also have to avoid sex and nudity we should probably just delete this thread :) Historically, they have allowed most nude and sex mods, don't need to worry much about that. Best to avoid doing anything that depicts forcing another sentient being into anything sexual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaraia Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I've seen it mentioned a few times now and I just want to remind folks that Rape in mods is on the black list of what not to do here. I would suggest avoiding any kind of forced or otherwise non-consenting sexual treatment of either gender. Sorry for ruining the party... It is? I thought the nexus wasn't censored. And also I thought it was possible in the sexlivion mod (just poorly done). But if so that's a shame. From the site terms...-If your file contains graphic scenes including but not limited to nudity, sex, masturbation, rape or torture then you increase your chances of Nexus staff removing your content at their own discretion and without warning. Historically, rape mods have always been removed, and some heated debates have ensued in other Nexus forums over mods that include content that can be construed as nonconsenting. Best to just avoid that entirely. We're only discussing ideas here. If a modder wants to make a mod, he or she will make that mod. The worst that can happen is that it gets deleted here and he or she will just have to upload it somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnie Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I've seen it mentioned a few times now and I just want to remind folks that Rape in mods is on the black list of what not to do here. I would suggest avoiding any kind of forced or otherwise non-consenting sexual treatment of either gender. Sorry for ruining the party... It is? I thought the nexus wasn't censored. And also I thought it was possible in the sexlivion mod (just poorly done). But if so that's a shame. From the site terms...-If your file contains graphic scenes including but not limited to nudity, sex, masturbation, rape or torture then you increase your chances of Nexus staff removing your content at their own discretion and without warning. Historically, rape mods have always been removed, and some heated debates have ensued in other Nexus forums over mods that include content that can be construed as nonconsenting. Best to just avoid that entirely. We're only discussing ideas here. If a modder wants to make a mod, he or she will make that mod. The worst that can happen is that it gets deleted here and he or she will just have to upload it somewhere else. People will mod what ever they will, and thats fine. However, avoiding uploading said mod here and causing controversy and the 30 threads being posted in this forum asking why the mod was taken down saves all of us (especially the site staff) the hassle. It doesn't hurt to discuss anything (though some subjects are less desirable than others), but isn't it better to discuss said subjects when one is fully aware of all the ramifications of posting the finished content here? :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaraia Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 People will mod what ever they will, and thats fine. However, avoiding uploading said mod here and causing controversy and the 30 threads being posted in this forum asking why the mod was taken down saves all of us (especially the site staff) the hassle. It doesn't hurt to discuss anything (though some subjects are less desirable than others), but isn't it better to discuss said subjects when one is fully aware of all the ramifications of posting the finished content here? :thumbsup: Got you, thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfawulf777 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 In a nutshell...I like the way Dragon Age did it best. Tasteful & yet graphic enuf to sell the feel within the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehcar Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Well, maybe... with the exception of the final sex scene... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgirlshayna Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Now I'm not going to specifically run any mods in previous Bethsoft titles down intentionally. But lets talk about sex in modding. Because if theres one thing that Bethsoft games and some other modifiable games have in common its even if there isn't any actual hanky panky right out of the box, the modders put it there eventually. Contextual Sex Not to be confused with "consensual sex" but, contextual sex is the difference, really, between art and pornography. And while pornography has its place and there are certainly thousands of players that enjoy a little porn in their mods, contextual sex is sex that makes sense in a given environment, story line, or interpersonal scenario. CD Projekt was very good about applying contextual sex pretty much right out of the box in the Witcher and the Witcher 2, the Witcher was far less graphic about it but it was obvious it was going on....and while contextual its actual representation of it was more comedic in many respects due to its toned down nature. In The Witcher 2, we ended up with more graphic contextual sex which was actually quite well done and while it didn't throw breasts and penises in your face, it presented sex in a contextual and sensual manner that gave the acts some measure of meaning. The mod community for Dragon Age: Origins, was also very good about taking the romantic scenes between various love interests in that game and playing them out a bit more graphically, while not losing the art of contextual, romantic sensuality in the pursuit of digital sex. Now previous to Skyrim, Bethsoft games weren't really built well for contextual sex. The script engine for Gamebyro in Morrowind/Oblivion/FO3/FONV was a bubble gum and bailing wire mess and the ability to naturally animate scenes just wasn't there. So what you ended up with in these titles was fairly robotic, mechanically functional "sex" but not sex that actually did anything to improve the canvas of the game it was painted on to. Skyrim presents modders of this stripe with a whole new opportunity, as the Radiant AI system and new Radiant Dialogue and scene system gets into our hands we'll have the ability to build completely relevant contextual scenes that actually add depth and value to the title itself. Rather than a simple manipulation of animations in conjunction with dialog interaction, a talented scripter and an animator could take sex in Skyrim to the level of art, just like Skyrim has taken The Elder Scrolls to the next level of art. So...think it over, modders, want to be modders, scripters, as we wait for the Creation suite of tools to drop. What would you rather have? Meaningless pixel sex on demand? Or seducing the follower/companion/Jarl/whoever of your choice in detailed....Radiant driven scenes that actually have context in regards to your further interactions with that person, and how they interact with you afterwards. I know I'll be picking at the Radiant scene/AI system myself quite a bit once we get the Creation Kit, to see what the top end of possibility is. But isn't that what we should shoot for, as modders? The absolute top end of what is potentially possible with the engine base Bethesda gives us? So again, no knocking the work of mod developers who have dealt in sexual content over the years. Just putting it out there, that functional doesn't exactly equal artistically impressive. Just cause you can slap a couple model meshes together in a 30 second animated loop doesn't mean you've improved the title you added it to. Sex in games is probably one of gamings most contested and demonized issues. I think as mod developers, and of course, mod users, that we need to think about what it would take to make sexual mods more like art. Luchaire got it right, in Dragon Age: Origins, especially with giving varying degrees explicitness for download, allowing users to decide, for themselves, where they believe sex and art meet at a cross road. Bethesda raised the bar when they put out Skyrim. We should do the same, when we decide to polish off the "mature" parts of it that they simply hint at. I couldn't agree more. Very well put. It will be nice to see how the CK will open this venue up for a deeper more meaningful dialog between NPC's and PC's. I'd like to be able to have more in depth dialogs and learn more about their individual histories, and all before allowing it go to the next level. I await with baited breath. From an artistic perspective, i can understand and agree with this. From a practical, ethical and rational perspective, i have to dissagree. You always run a serious risk when you make things too immersive, and i feel that this type of mod would be crossing the line. A deeper courtship process, some more dialogue to make romance at least a passing concept, and thats it. I persoanlly feel that anything that requires a player to sit there and secude a digital character is pushing the limit of what i view as responsible game design. Again, i can apreciate the artistic and immersive qualities of it, but then again i can apreciate the artistic qualities fo a serial killer... Doesn't mean i think either are a good idea. So what you're saying is, you just want to get to the *censored*ing as soon as possible... Right??? LOL I'm sure there will be "quickie" mods available. Personally, I like the idea of a more immersive interaction prior to getting it on. The deeper the better :) It's different for women. We like that kind of immersion in a sex mod, or porn or anything else on the subject of sex. We can't just jump right in there titties all bouncing around, and dripping wet, going "just shove it me baby!!! oooOOO" I think it shows a sign of caring in programming on the part of the guys (and women) writing these mods. After all, there's a lot more females playing video games than there used to be. THIS IS A GOOD THING :) BTW, I do have a healthy, nor..... UH, Umm.... healthy sex life :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 So what you're saying is, you just want to get to the *censored*ing as soon as possible... Right??? LOL I'm sure there will be "quickie" mods available. Personally, I like the idea of a more immersive interaction prior to getting it on. The deeper the better :) It's different for women. We like that kind of immersion in a sex mod, or porn or anything else on the subject of sex. We can't just jump right in there titties all bouncing around, and dripping wet, going "just shove it me baby!!! oooOOO" I think it shows a sign of caring in programming on the part of the guys (and women) writing these mods. After all, there's a lot more females playing video games than there used to be. THIS IS A GOOD THING :) BTW, I do have a healthy, nor..... UH, Umm.... healthy sex life :P Umm... Not sure where you got that reading from that quote... I meant that sex its self (At least the graphic expression of it) is probably not the best direction to take it. More indepth romance and character interactions are the way to go, and i stand by that decision. Blacking out the screen when you and your signifigant other do-the-do is one thing, but actually working out animations so you can watch it as a cheap 3d porno is something totally different. Again, i can understand the artistic expression of designing such a thing, but that doesn't mean i agree with it. Of course, to implrement a proper romance system you'd either have to make entirely new marryable people, or completely rescript existing NPC's. In both cases, doing the job properly would require voice acting. Its a lot of work either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havefunwilltravel Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 So what you're saying is, you just want to get to the *censored*ing as soon as possible... Right??? LOL I'm sure there will be "quickie" mods available. Personally, I like the idea of a more immersive interaction prior to getting it on. The deeper the better :) It's different for women. We like that kind of immersion in a sex mod, or porn or anything else on the subject of sex. We can't just jump right in there titties all bouncing around, and dripping wet, going "just shove it me baby!!! oooOOO" I think it shows a sign of caring in programming on the part of the guys (and women) writing these mods. After all, there's a lot more females playing video games than there used to be. THIS IS A GOOD THING :) BTW, I do have a healthy, nor..... UH, Umm.... healthy sex life :P Umm... Not sure where you got that reading from that quote... I meant that sex its self (At least the graphic expression of it) is probably not the best direction to take it. More indepth romance and character interactions are the way to go, and i stand by that decision. Blacking out the screen when you and your signifigant other do-the-do is one thing, but actually working out animations so you can watch it as a cheap 3d porno is something totally different. Again, i can understand the artistic expression of designing such a thing, but that doesn't mean i agree with it. Of course, to implrement a proper romance system you'd either have to make entirely new marryable people, or completely rescript existing NPC's. In both cases, doing the job properly would require voice acting. Its a lot of work either way. To each his own. If you don't like it, just don't look for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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