Boudro Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 For everyone who keeps asking why everyone wants to kill children so bad, have you ever met Braith in Whiterun, or the Jarl's daughter in dragonsreach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juiceman1_2000_tesnexus Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Yeah, it's pretty dumb and pretentious to think that sparing kids in the role-playing of a ruthless character makes it acceptable, while the mention of taking them out is absolutely horrible! Saying things like that are comparisons to reality, not role playing. If you want to compare it to reality, sparing the kids is still probably even worse, because if you're role-playing a ruthless character and you've ransacked their home and their whole family is dead.. now you've just set them up for an awesome life ahead of them. Thanks for ruining every thing, but then letting me stay. Haha. You're approaching a very dark area in this discussion by this line of reasoning. I suggest you quit while you can 'maybe' still pass for a non-sociopath. Are you suggesting that having killed the kid's whole family, the right thing to do at that point would be to 'put' him/her out of his/her misery? I simply want to do what I couldn't/wouldn't do in real life, which is to be a Hero/Villain Legend, doing whatever I please, even if on occasion that means murderizing a mouthy lil brat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terralventhe Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) I think you're taking what he was saying a little too far out of context. He was merely saying the same thing I was; sparing the kid's life can sometimes be just as bad, or possibly worse, than killing the kid, dependant on how circumstances play themselves out. Thus making the whole 'OMG UR A SOCIOPATHZ' melodrama a whole bundle of nonsense - which it is. It's the same closeminded ignorance that people like Jack Thompson adhere to. Edited November 24, 2011 by Terralventhe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokiron Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Whether or not there is a fate worse than death is an existential question though.. Not disconnected from the killable kids, but a different line of discussion really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrewulf238 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) How is it morally disgusting to kill a child in the game.....but perfectly fine to kill innocent adults in the game? I don't really get the reasoning behind this. That's what people are saying though, that it's fine to kill innocent adults (that are just living their lives not hurting anyone) but not children. I'm not trying to justify killing children or anything, far from it. I'm just wondering how if people are so morally correct they don't have anything to say about the killing of innocent adults/elders in the game. Hulda is working an honest life in the whiterun inn and she works hard every day....but you can shove a sword into her back all the same. Where's the justice in that? The morality? It's morally wrong to kill ANYONE no matter the age. It's startling to think people don't actually realize this...It feels like people are picking and choosing what is "morally wrong". You can already do disgusting and evil things in this game without mods. Edited November 24, 2011 by Sabrewulf238 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokiron Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 How is it morally disgusting to kill a child in the game.....but perfectly fine to kill innocent adults in the game? I don't really get the reasoning behind this. That's what people are saying though, that it's fine to kill innocent adults (that are just living their lives not hurting anyone) but not children. This is a very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terralventhe Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) Yup, and it's pretty much the point those of us in favor of a killable children mod are relentlessly pointing out. This debate always came up when Bethesda decided to not include killable children in their Fallout releases - when the first two games did have the option to do so. And the point was always the same: Why do people constantly get uptight and morally outraged when it comes to killing a child in a videogame, but they found it perfectly fine and acceptable to go around butchering every single other innocent person and puppy out there? It makes no sense whatsoever. And they always, always fall back on the same line of reasoning: "If you want to kill an innocent child in a game that makes you a sociopath!" If that were the case, then wanting to kill ANYTHING that's innocent in a game would make you a sociopath, and would ironically mean that all of the melodramatic soccer moms, Jack Thompsons and other ignorants of the world who keep insisting that videogames make you go on violent killing sprees and raping prostitutes while abusing drugs, were in fact right, and that gamers in general are in fact the Anti-Christ incarnate. Get a clue, people! I mean, has common sense really become such an abhorrent concept that people wave it in favor of outlandish accusations and ideas just to feel morally justified? Edited November 25, 2011 by Terralventhe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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