Agatana Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 The title says it all, but let me clarify some. The latest episode leaning me this way is, I went to pick a lock. The amount of lockpicks I have is displayed, the level of the lock is displayed, I can hear the lock turning when I move my mouse, I can hear when the lockpick breaks because I'm not in the sweet spot...because I can't see the lock face. I get out, sync up, go back in and the problem is still there. I open a game that was working before I started this new one and the problem has been imported into that game. My NMM was updated without my permission, and consequently most of my mods are not there, and a few are there that I disabled and they were enabled. I played the game earlier, it crashed( read locked up ) on me. I had to do a hard shutdown of my computer in order to close the game. I could close the game and steam using the Task Manager, but when I open steam again to open the game again steam says the game is already running( this has been a recurring problem, not just lately ). If I don't do the Sanctuary quest in the correct order, and don't even think about doing anything but what the quest tells you to do( nothing more nor nothing less ), If you got to the Drumlin Diner for instance, or even go into the cellar in sanctuary, when you actually show up and go into the place the survivors are holed up the instant the inside of the building loads in I die like all my hit points are gone and the game reloads. It also happened when I got to Diamond City, bought the house available, when I went into a shop before obeying the quest to visit my house, when the interior loaded, I died. If anyone has a suggestion as to a fix, without involving the steam community( they won't help you anyway because it's a "game specific problem not steam's, or the aforementioned "game" community please help. Otherwise I'm done with this piece of s#*! game. For those who took the time to read my entire rant thank you, and even more so if you have a solution for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonslayer2k12 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 What are you running this game on? is it a laptop? You know pc games require decent hardware you can't do much more than solitaire on laptop graphics and low resources like ram and hard drive space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkborgelt13 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) I have been playing on a laptop with 1gB ram since January. Read that correctly. 3gB less than recommended amount. I have stable 40fps while playing. No problems at all. HDD space has nothing to do with performance. There is, however, a slight difference between SSD and mechanical drive. So it IS possible to use outdated hardware, you just have to make some adjustments. Now, as to your specific problem. Give me the following information:-What other software is installed?-What processes are running (screenshot of your active processes would help).-What services are running-What anti virus software do you use.-System specs (components, sound device, etc). general advice: Blow out the entire directory of steam Fallout 4. Use something like Revo Uninstaller to rip out any last trace of it. Make a new windows account, install game and play from this account. Make a new vanilla savegame (no mods) and see if problem persists. The idea is to isolate your Fallout4 process in a clean environment and troubleshoot it. Edit: If your mods were taken out by NMM update... put them back! Removing mods shouldn't be much of a problem. Edited July 28, 2016 by mkborgelt13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonslayer2k12 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Dam that 40fps is too low for me, also a laptop is not something you really want to strain it doesn't have the same decent cooling performance as a desktop pc. Strain that one little fan too much and risk causing heat damage. How would you strain it? running under max load for hours and hours non stop by playing a highly demanding game. Why would you only have 1gb of ram? ram is super cheap now you can get 4gb of it for laptops for cheap from the internet and some local stores. Hard drive space matters because of virtual memory usage and how windows malfunctions in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkborgelt13 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Yes, funny you mention the fan.... the fan welded to the heatsink above my CPU is malfunctioning, I get a BIOS warning each time I boot up. However, the PC is designed for emergency shutdown if internal temperatures exceed certain threshhold, so it is no big deal. I am well aware of performance load on mechanical parts, but I live dangerously ;) I have that little ram because laptop is 6 years old and is designed to be self-sealed. It is not possible to insert more ram or replace existing cards. The most I could modify was inserting another disk in the housing after teardown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonslayer2k12 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Bios warnings about fans were only from HP computers I think and those fans were crap too. Had to keep buying them on amazon for people I would help with their laptops sometimes. I never ran into a fan that was welded to the heatsink though, usually just some tiny screws in there to hold it down. Don't rely on that emergency shut down I have seen it fail to work many times over the last decade starting with pentium III chips. Whats that smell? unplug it quick! oh dammit the thing is fried. I have heard that many times and it always smells really bad too. Those skinny laptops that are made to break usually come sealed and unable to be opened and repaired I hate those but they are cheaper than the usual stuff. Surface pro comes to mind don't ever break the screen it is glued down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agatana Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 Am not running on laptop. Had a pc built for me last year specifically for FO4. I have over 1600 hrs in the game. I am convinced it has to do with updates. Not every one( i would have quit a long time ago ) but when it happens it's annoying. And this 71 yr old don't take easily to being annoyed, I tend to break things and that gets expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RattleAndGrind Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I have noticed memory leaks which get worse as you collect items which you store in work benches, boxes, etc. I had to start dumping stored items on vendors (Legendary items etc) at huge losses just to get them out of the game. This stopped some (but not all) of the freezes, bog-downs, pixilated displays and partially displayed images (like locks). But the longer you play, the worse it seems to get (I have over 1700 hours). I save and restart the game about once an hour now, just to keep the impact to a minimum. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agatana Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) I have noticed memory leaks which get worse as you collect items which you store in work benches, boxes, etc. I had to start dumping stored items on vendors (Legendary items etc) at huge losses just to get them out of the game. This stopped some (but not all) of the freezes, bog-downs, pixilated displays and partially displayed images (like locks). But the longer you play, the worse it seems to get (I have over 1700 hours). I save and restart the game about once an hour now, just to keep the impact to a minimum. Hope this helps. Thanks Gyrene, Navy here. appreciate the real help. However, I have saved, synched, restarted and that didn't help. It does seem that when the cache gets swollen things slow down, rain pixilates,etc. and I have a fairly high end machine built last year especially for FO4. I am going back to Skyrim for awhile, I have over 6700 hrs invested in it. I still play Morrowind, Oblivion, FO3, and FONV with at least 1500 hrs in each of them. Been retired from the University of Nevada for 8 yrs now and sometimes don't sleep well. Edited August 1, 2016 by Agatana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkborgelt13 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I have noticed memory leaks which get worse as you collect items which you store in work benches, boxes, etc. I had to start dumping stored items on vendors (Legendary items etc) at huge losses just to get them out of the game. This stopped some (but not all) of the freezes, bog-downs, pixilated displays and partially displayed images (like locks). But the longer you play, the worse it seems to get (I have over 1700 hours). I save and restart the game about once an hour now, just to keep the impact to a minimum. Hope this helps. Thanks Gyrene, Navy here. appreciate the real help. However, I have saved, synched, restarted and that didn't help. It does seem that when the cache gets swollen things slow down, rain pixilates,etc. and I have a fairly high end machine built last year especially for FO4. I am going back to Skyrim for awhile, I have over 6700 hrs invested in it. I still play Morrowind, Oblivion, FO3, and FONV with at least 5000 hrs in each of them. Been retired from the University of Nevada for 8 yrs now and sometimes don't sleep well. :( This might not be related to your problem, but it is worth trying.Uninstall all your mods temporarily. Then go into your /Fallout4/Data/ folder, and remove anything that is left in the asset directories (Textures, Meshes, etc). I had manually placed a texture which was for some reason causing the game to ctd frequently. When I deleted it, the problem went away. Since you have hardware specifically for Fallout4, that does not seem like an issue. If you could give more information about the software ecology you are running on, as I said above. Also, try making a clean install and clean save, and see if problem persists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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