So what I think may have happened to the Dwemer

[Eversjm7]

My theory is that the dwermer are the isajic (yea I raped that word) mages.

[Quirkyblonde]

My theory is that the dwermer are the isajic (yea I raped that word) mages.

 

 

you mean 'psijic' ?

 

I don't think soooo....you see several of them in the Mages guild quest and they look rather tall to be Dwemer.

[Eversjm7]

Dwermer are not short

[Lachdonin]

Yes, Dwemer are not in any way, shape or form short. They are called Dwarves because thats how the Giants introduced them to the Nords. The Nords, of course, completely ignored the fact that the Giants called EVERYONE Dwarves.

 

As for the Psijics, we also know where they came from. The Psijics were originally a offshoot of the High Elves who left Summerset as the Altmer were switching to the worship of the 8 divines, and the Psijic's maintained the ancestor based worship of the Et'ada. Because of their continued beleif that the Mer were decended from Gods, they founded a very powerful mystic society which served as advisors to kings and Emperors for thousands of years, untill their entire island dissapeared for 200 years in the Third Era.

 

When it reappeared, they offered no explination as to what happened, and became somewhat ostracised by the world at large because of it. Presumably it did the same thing around 4E 100.

 

A key note of the Psijics is that they ahve always opposed the Thalmor, and the elitism of the Atlmer (though the majoirity of their population is in fact High Elven) and have a tendancy to meddle in the affairs of others. This puts them completely at odds with the Dwemer, who were superioristic and reclusive.

 

We also know that the Psijics and the Dwemer coexisted, albeit on different sides of the contenant, meaning they cannot be one in the same.

[Eversjm7]

Are they of the same blood line? Considering both are mer?

[Lachdonin]

Yes. All Mer are decended from the Aldmeri settlers of the Summerset isles. The Altmer, Bosmer, Dunmer, Orsimer and Falmer are the currently living varriants, but there were also the Chimer and the Dwemer in the past.

 

Despite the fdact that the Psijics allow other races to enter their order, they are predominantly Altmer.

[Takashidomo]

So when the Falmer went to attack the Dwemer one day and they weren't there was it the fact that the Nords drove them out or was it their disappearance that led to the Falmer not being able to find them. It is very possible that the Companions believed that they drove them all out when only a small fraction were able to be found in there fortresses while the rest hid away in places like Blackreach. And who is to say that most of the cities were not connected through a very elaborate system of trams. The way I see it the Dwemer had access to the Elder Scroll the whole time. If the Elder Scroll knows everything then why wouldn't they be using it to research about the heart or something. I am not saying that the Elder Scroll made them disappear but it too big of a player to say it didn't contribute. I know everyone says look how long the machines stay awake but still look at all the things that have broken in the cities so i really think that Elder Scroll chamber was made more recent than 1E 143 when they were "chased" out of Skyrim.

[Lachdonin]

Well, some parts of their machinery is in good condition. Others, not so much. I think it largely depends on how many worker spiders remain active to maintain the equipment.

 

As for the Elder Scroll, i do agree that it likely had something to do with their experements on the Heart. It may even have been what led them to the Heart in the first place. However, based on everything we know, it wasn't directly related to the dissapearance.

[AuricDeGoldfinger]

Anyone thought about how the automatons could possibly hold ancient deceased dwemer souls? Considering how they longed for immortality, they could have possibly experimented on a smaller scale long before their disappearance. I kind of prepared a longer more complex post on this, just being curious for the time being. :happy:

 

Also yay 1st post! :dance:

Edited December 31, 2011 by AuricDeGoldfinger

[galalic]

To the main topic, we should have asked alduin before we killed him!!!! he has been alive since akatosh and should know the answer, dammitt shouldnt have stick him up so soon, should have hanged him in dragonreach and interogate him on all of Tamerial's history :devil:

 

That would require more than one conversation option in a dialogue. ;)

 

I'd love more on the Dwemer, but as has been posted above, they did cover it pretty well in Morrowind. Though I doubt they'll never revisit it, I didn't really expect it in TESV. However, the massive amount of Dwemer ruins was very cool.

 

-Rog