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I think I figured this out. I was able to solve this by deleteing my 4k face textures. The reason behind this bug seems to generate from the face textures being drawing from different resolutions, so if you have really high (4k) or low (vanilla) or (2k) your game is going to make NPCs develope that anoying brown face. This devinitly solved it for the NPCs, however I have never had the MC have this issue presonally so I am unsure if this would be the same case. *Stick to a single face resolution* and yes this includes the faces that are editied by NPC overhaul mods as well, which tend to be vanilla texture unless they provide and alternative option.

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As stated above in the title, after a while of playing, my characters face as well as some NPC's faces will turn brown.

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/NH9HfYp.jpg

 

 

As you can see in the picture, my characters face is brown. Heres my load order:

 

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Please help D:

Did you ever solve this?

 

I get the brown face bug sometimes but it is normally fixed by quick saving and quick loading.

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  • 11 months later...

I may have speculated on this before elsewhere but it bears repeating. It's not a rusty face, it's the underlying character model, what is under the skin of all characters. This is why there are no eyebrows as just one proof.

 

Another proof is that you can't make a character with gray skin even if you have the right mod for skin editing installed. Trying just gets you a lighter or darker translucence over, you guessed it, the rusty dermis underneath.

 

This is why I consider the loading screen characters to be skinned, why the only solution (when not further bunged by updates putting the bug back) involve forcing reload to actually load your face edits and or modded faces back, and why I continue to laugh scornfully at Bethesda.

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Heyas BlazeStryker. That's a really interesting theory that you have, about the loading screen characters. Definite props to you for trying to figure that out. ;)

However, that's not it. :(

It's because the loading screen objects aren't really characters. They are simple, unmoving, unimesh objects. That use a completely different mesh and set of textures from the multi-mesh, skeletonized, characters in the game. IE they aren't anything more than 3d statues.

 

From my experience, here's the reasons why we get the brown texture.

1) Multi-mesh characters. This only happens in games where there is a different mesh for the head, and a separate mesh for the chest. And it's usually the result of a texture glitch where the game doesn't render both textures equally.

 

1a) Using textures with different settings and resolutions can have a big impact on that bug. Most game devs have a standard that they use when they make the game. However, sometimes in the case of DLC's or Mods, the creators don't hold to that same standard, and you get mixed rez or mixed settings used in the textures.

 

2) Lighting or other conditions that cause the game to render incorrectly.

 

3) Incorrectly created mods that put a big strain on the computer trying to run the game, or strains the game engine. In this case, particularly when the game has finished rendering a scene after coming out of the loading screen. Which is one reason why reloading usually fixes it in cases like this, or # 2.

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