Imperial VS Stormcloak

[fraquar]

Tell you what, if you could get a couple of Nord Druids you could put together one serious army in Winterhold.

[HighkingUlfricStormcloak]

Looking back on the Great War the Nords proved that they can easily beat the AD's army. The Army that was present in Cyrodiil proved that the Nords are a worthy opponent. The Nords present in the legion are, yes, the main force but still. The people of Eastmarch wanted a war, the people of the Rift, the very few people of Winterhold. The Nords dont need to be equal in number as proven in the past. Theres also the Summerset Resistance to be taken into account. Not all High Elves support the AD.

 

When you read books in game it shows that Skyrim is able to muster armies when it needs to. Skald King Jorunn shows this. Olaf One Eye shows this and many other Nord heroes. 1 Nord equals a few elves.

 

Physically the Nords are the strongest race. Next are the Orcs. Then the Imperials. Then Bretons etc. etc. The High elves are not as strong as the Nords and the Stormcloaks are Nords.

[RighthandofSithis]

And Winterhold still has a vote on the Moot. They may not have power to put forwarsd their opinion, but they still have the power to vote 'Ulfric' or 'Elisif'. They voted the former.

[RighthandofSithis]

Physically the Nords are the strongest race. Next are the Orcs. Then the Imperials. Then Bretons etc. etc. The High elves are not as strong as the Nords and the Stormcloaks are Nords.

 

Coming back to my point that nordic Shock Troops could charge the Aldmeri mages, forcing them to fight on Nordic terms, and the very momentum of a force of Shck troops could break the Aldmeri lines. Imagine a force of berserkers running straight for you. If that fails, a Svinfylking. Once the line is broken, then the Phalanx moves in.

[fraquar]

Lets be honest here, if Skyrim left the Empire the AD would role straight through Cyrodil much like the Stormtroopers through France - no Hammerfell, No Skyrim, no chance for the Empire.

 

Pause, resupply and come right up the gut of Skyrim - those passes through the Rift and Falkreath aren't that hard to breach.

 

In the end you are going to need 2 things to defeat the AD no matter the outcome of the Civil War. The combined forces of Skyrim and Hammerfell (which the Empire betrayed) and some divine intervention.

[HighkingUlfricStormcloak]

Exactly, the Nords are warrior poets. Yes in game against your characters potentially all NPC's suck but not against the elves. The Nords use two handed weapons and one handed weapons and shields. The High elves use magic and one handed weapons. Destructive magic blows when your being charged by an angry Nord with a giant hammer. Plus the Nords have 50% frost resistance. So if the AD decides to use Frost spells that would ultimately prove to be a poor choice. The Nords can use shields to protect against other spells and yes the elves can spawn daedra but that wont be the end of the Nord army.

 

And moving into Skyrim the Nords could easily cut off the AD's supply line and starve them out.

 

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When it comes to an invasion of Skyrim the problem is the terrain. A pass is a choke point in which the invading army would have to move through the pass and force your troops to move into a column. In which case the Stormcloaks have shown they know how to use guerrilla tactics, by using these tactics if the AD's army is moving in a column through the narrow pass it makes it easier for the Stormcloaks to attack the column using hit and run tactics. Which would dwindle the resources of the AD's army down to almost nothing. The fact that its nearly always snowing in the passes proves that it makes it harder to move a large force through the pass. Theres no way for the AD to take the high ground because of the jagged rocky mountains. The Nords know the mountains and the land better than the AD, they have been living there for generations. Moral of the AD would decrease and the soldiers wouldnt be as hard pressed to continue moving. They would also be tired. They would be constantly chasing the Nords through the mountains and not be as focused on gaining a foothold in the pass. The Nords could take the time and sit by and let the army starve. If the AD made it through the pass (Which as I have explained would be very difficult, not impossible but hard) they would maybe take a fort, like fort Neugrad. Then they would need to gain the resources lost back and have to rebuild and possibly need reinforcements. Which would also give the Nords time to pick at the remaining soldiers and dwindle them down even further in number. This wouldnt take that many Nords. Maybe a few hundred. Im going to assume that the AD has several thousands of soldiers. The Nords Im assuming (Game logistics aside) have a few thousand soldiers. Using part of there force would be enough to deplete the moral of the advancing army. Attacking via the hills, hit and run tactics would be the best choice. Hit the AD's army and making them chase the Nords into the hills where they can be ambushed by more forces. The Nords could also use the land itself against them. They could block off the pass and force the army to halt and clear the pass then ambush them. These are examples of things the Nords could do. The Celts did this to the Romans.

[TheStoneFist]

The reason that I believe the Stormcloaks are right is because once Skyrim breaks free from Imperial control they would be able to make alliances with other countries who also hate the Aldmeri Dominion, such as Hammerfell. Lets face it, the Empire is dying and it is dragging Skyrim down with it. Also I believe that telling someone they can no longer worship their Deity is morally wrong. Also, telling the citizens of Skyrim to do anything is generally a bad idea, because if they do not view you as a worthy leader they most likely will not listen to you and you will just make them mad. I do not necessarily hate the Empire, or even dislike them, however I think that the Empire should cut their losses and go back to being the Kingdom of Cyrodil instead of wasting men, money, time, and supplies.

[hardarg]

Talking about tactics: since Altmer are known to be talented mages, and also have a higher base skill in Illusion. I'm curious on how their foes would fare. Particularly when spells likes these are used:

 

Clairvoyance

Invisibility

Frenzy

[HighkingUlfricStormcloak]

If they used those in the Great War, how did the Nords Annihilate the army? They in fact did annihilate the elven forces in Cyrodiil and took minimal losses.

[fraquar]

What was at Cyrodil got beat up pretty good, it wasn't a cake walk by any means. They did hold the line though and refused to break - and thats what allowed the Imperial army to finish the job.

 

Don't forget though that 1/2 of that force that prevented the breakout was Redguards - which aren't in the picture. No way the Nords by themselves would have prevented a breakout.