can you convert oblivion to skyrim?

[Ghogiel]

I think as long as you do not distribute any content or mess with anything whatsoever then it can circumvent pretty much a lot of issues, only users themselves running the program on their games might be liable to action.

 

Morroblivion hasn't escaped BGS eyes, it's banned on their site and here, I think that it can operate simply because it doesn't actually distribute anything and in effect isn't copying anything in an of itself. I could be wrong about it's total legality, but it doesn't itself infringe on any copyrights because nothing is copied or distributed. That lays in the hands of the end user.... I'm not sure where and if it might be a breach of EULA, but the end user would be certainly. Which in itself makes it a sketchy subject as you cannot really discuss that subject on this website, so I advise else wheres.

Edited December 5, 2011 by Ghogiel

[Matth85]

If Bethesda asks the big forums to break away the project, warn the authors and ban it from being talked about on the forums, wouldn't you consider it not-legal and a no-good-idea?

It wasn't a court case, but man - this is the step under it.

 

So no, doing it like that wouldn't be "good" either. Not sure how legal it is, under the copyright law, but you'd get on the bad side of the forum(s) and bethesda. Why would anybody want that? :o

[Ghogiel]

If Bethesda asks the big forums to break away the project, warn the authors and ban it from being talked about on the forums, wouldn't you consider it not-legal and a no-good-idea?

It wasn't a court case, but man - this is the step under it.

 

So no, doing it like that wouldn't be "good" either. Not sure how legal it is, under the copyright law, but you'd get on the bad side of the forum(s) and bethesda. Why would anybody want that? :o

to talk about making it is one thing, however as soon as anyone said they actually tested it... a big hammer squishes them.

[xaliqen]

Skyrim is a lot closer to Oblivion in terms of the art direction than Oblivion was to Morrowind.

 

I think using Skyrim assets to recreate parts of Oblivion will be possible within reason (it's obviously not going to look exactly the same). In some ways (with the houses, for example), using the Skyrim assets may make things look more realistic than the Oblivion equivalent.

[AoCBane]

Well if Bethsoft didnt intend for users to put Oblivion in the game I doubt that the White Gold tower would be there, along with the other places of familiar games as well.

[Matth85]

Well if Bethsoft didnt intend for users to put Oblivion in the game I doubt that the White Gold tower would be there, along with the other places of familiar games as well.

 

*sigh* There is a huge different what THEY are allowed to do, and what WE are allowed to do. Unless you plan to buy out Bethesda, you are bound by law not too. Even they are bound by law not too port certain models.

 

I think using Skyrim assets to recreate parts of Oblivion will be possible within reason (it's obviously not going to look exactly the same). In some ways (with the houses, for example), using the Skyrim assets may make things look more realistic than the Oblivion equivalent.

 

With some good retextures, and a few new models, yes: It would not be too, too, hard. A little time consuming, and a little akward in looks, but possible.

But as I said before, does Cyrodiil look like it did in Oblivion, 200 years ago? A lot have changed, includig the Thalmor invasion.

[AoCBane]

Well what I mean is like using Skyrims resources and whats there someone could make Cyrodiil open but looking aged 200 years and such like make some drastic changes and some different Lore

[Matth85]

Well what I mean is like using Skyrims resources and whats there someone could make Cyrodiil open but looking aged 200 years and such like make some drastic changes and some different Lore

We could make cyrodiil yes, using models from Skyrim and our own. We could not, however, take any resources from Oblivion and port it over.

[AoCBane]

Which is understandable and honestly I dont think it would make sense to just port Oblivion to Skyrim lol

[DarciKiva]

I think its funny that you all are worried about being sued for backwards formatting for personal game play.

I can understand that most people would shy away from this kind of a project but If you want a real answer you need to understand the laws in your area.

In The Eula it is clear that you cannot copy full or partial info from one game to another. This means you have to change all items by 30% or more by recreating or making the basic tools from scratch. Copyright only goes for 2 months without there being a similar product or service. The EULA clearly says there can be no profit or transfer of services without written consent. But there are a few things most modelers know about modding. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modding#Game_software)

 

One last thing to think about Bethesda wants you to mod so that errors and games in the future will be better this is the reason they are putting out an editor, Mod's have fun but don't claim anything as your own and don't do anything to slander Bethesda. The idea is to make the gaming community better and to allow editors to find many other ways to make great games like Oblivion and Skyrim better.

 

Here's the quote from the creator and why it cant be done Oblivion and Skyrim are made by 2 different companies. One is Bethsoft the other is BEs Art studio.

The only thing i see problematic here is there is no legal right to say it is illegal (because as long as you bought both there your property) except by a agreement by Bethesda and another company that we cannot see.

 

http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=480686&sid=c2f00eeadfd9e8b2666f16082df1ffe5

 

In any case Have fun mod but ask before released if you are scared of repercussions. Happy Modding.