cdliongtmcm Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) I hope I am not putting a redundant post on something that has already been covered I looked through the topics here and I did not see my specific issue. I installed fallout 4 and NMM was running on ultra with no issues what so ever. Smooth game play. My Hard drive was getting full so I installed another hard drive and uninstalled all my mods and fallout 4 and reinstalled them on the different drive. Immediately the game was locking up and lagging. So I thought perhaps it was the mods so I uninstalled all the mods. Same issues. I thought maybe I was running at too high of a game setting so I set all game settings to low. Same issue. Finally I uninstalled the game again and reinstalled it back on my Hard drive with my operating system on it. I reinstalled the mods and fired up the game. it lagged some but then smoothed out. When I quit the game for the day and came back the next day I can barely move without it studdering and pausing. I dont understand what could have happened between my first install where it was running fine in ultra but now will not run. Any assistance would be helpful. Im a noob to gaming so if I didnt do something right please tell me. Here is my Rig SpecsMSI HDMI SATA 6GB USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard (A78M-E35)AMD-A6-6400K APU 3.9Ghz8GB RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) x 2Nvidia GTX 750Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit Here is what I have tried so farUninstalling and reinstalling the game and all mods using Loot to organize the load orderULG Ultra low graphics for low end pc's ( Which I just tried because I think My rig should Run this game ok on higher settings but wanted to rule out the graphics issue)Fallout 4 configuration tool by Bilago set Vsync in Nvida Control Panal to Adaptive as suggestedI have ran in all graphics modes from low to ultra and get the same issue. uninstalled all mods and reinstalled game clean with same issue. Edited August 23, 2016 by cdliongtmcm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRJump Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) What brand, capacity and rotation speed has the new hard drive? If it's a standard, mechanical HD (non SSD) then there's the odd chance that there's something wrong with the hard drive, like damaged sectors due to too rough handling during shipping... This being said, your GPU isn't the most powerful. A GTX750 is right on the edge of low and midrange performance. Something to have a look at is if your PC somehow switched from your GPU to the on-board graphics after having swapped hard drives. Then, there's also the RAM issue. FO4 became V-RAM hungry over time and your GTX750's 1GB of V-RAM plus 8GB of system RAM could be an issue too... Edited August 23, 2016 by JimmyRJump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdliongtmcm Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) The hard drive was out of an Xbox 360 That I low level formatted to work in my PC. the hard drive was brand new but my Xbox quit working before it was ever used in it so I figured I would use it for something lol. I decided to try to build a gaming PC instead of fooling with fixing the 360. I figured it might be the hard drive so I moved Fallout back to my regular hard drive. I wasn't haveing the issue at all until I installed to that drive but I figured it would be fixed when I put it back on my regular hard drive. The hard drives are pretty old and mechanical so that definitely could be the issue, however, i couldn't figure out why it didn't do it from the start. I have not ruled out that it could be my PC because its built from Frankensteined parts from what I had laying around with the exception of the New motherboard, power supply, RAM and GPU. in hindsight I should have gone with the newer MSI board for the larger RAM capacity. Thanks for your reply it certainly gives me something I can work with moving forward. In the back of my mind, I kinda of figured it was my PC but never hurts to have fresh insight. I have no idea what the specs are on the 360 Hard drive I wasn't able to find any other than the speed is 7200RPMmy Regular hard drive is Hitachi GST Deskstar T7K500 HDT725025VLA380 (0A33423) 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" here are the specs on my Video card GIGABYTE GV-N750OC-2GI G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 750 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready Video Card1137MHz Boost Clock, 100mm Large Fan Design Thanks again for your help Edited August 24, 2016 by cdliongtmcm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRJump Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) Knowing that the game has RAM-spikes that go over what you have combined in your computer can at times become hairy and cause CTD even... Old drives work as good as new ones. Only thing that is really unhealthy for a mechanical HD -besides going swimming with it or throwing it out the window from the tenth floor- is high temperatures, or, more to the point, large swings in temperatures. Having a drive constantly at 50°C/122°F isn't bad per sé; it's the constant cooling off and re-heating that kills a drive because the metal platters, when cooling off never regain their original shape. After numerous swelling and shrinking, the edge of the disk becomes like a cake-walk and no longer fits in its small compartiment inside the enclosure, making the top and bottom edges of the disk touch against the top and bottom of the enclosure until the expansion has reached such a point the disk is no longer able to spin and gets stuck... that's why it's always better to have a decent venitlated case with a blower pointed at the hard drive compartiment... Edited August 24, 2016 by JimmyRJump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdliongtmcm Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 LOL My whole case is open . Its nothing but a metal frame with the components in it. I keep the house like an icebox as well . I turned all the settings down to low for now and it helped the studdering problem to the point I can at least play.I then installed ENboost and configured the V-Ram settings to the suggested tweak. I also reformatted the extra drive and made it a dedicated V-Ram not sure if that helps but I thought it was worth a try( somehow in my mind I figure two drives doing two jobs is somehow more efficient than one doing two jobs).. I ordered 16GM of ram also. Will that help some until I can save the money to build a new rig? I also plan on getting a Solid state HD just did not have it in the budget this month. I just built this one last year so wasn't planning on doing a complete build for a few years... that was until I discovered fallout 4 LOL. Thanks again for your replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRJump Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) Using a hard drive for memory-swap purposes was done back in the days of Win 3.0 to Win '98, although the function is still written in the code of all Sicromoft OS right up to and including Win10. It was a nice feature from when we had sticks of 2 and 4MB of RAM which was largerly insufficient when playing heftier games, even when those games weren't installed on the HD (hence why you had to keep the game CD in the ROM device to let the PC access the needed files from the disc). Nowadays all it does is slow everything down, since a hard drive is way, waaaaaay, slower than RAM or SSD (the latter works like RAM or flash memory anyway), so having your HD set as a memory swap file isn't the best of options when trying to counter lag. Get a box of Belgian chocolates for survival while waiting on your extra system RAM, instead :wink: By the way, I hope you checked the RAM capacity of your motherboard before calling in the big guns, both overall and per stick... Edited September 3, 2016 by JimmyRJump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts