Arcadiast Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) who hates who? my best friend is a Console Player, we have discussions about who kicks whos behind, laugh and continue drinking. There is no "hate". My problem is and I am sure I am not alone, a game should make best use of the Hardware it is being made for. This is not the case with many games that are published today. One look at Skyrims UI and you know this could have been made (lets say) different for PC. Consoles are 5 years old, their Hardware is aged and the world spun a few times since then. Yet we dont see new games setting new standards. Just look at the newest Shooter Games (you know which). They look and feel exactly the same since years with at best minor improvements and please for the love of god, don't start telling me that one of them had PC as leading Platform, I have seen it and it is the same game as its predecessor only overhyped much more! This "PC vs. Console Players" thing is a contraproductive misunderstanding which compeletely distracts from the real problem at hand. Overhyping, fanboyism, Publishers that are being worshipped as gods etc. all this pretty much kills gaming as a Work of Art. We all lose! i think people hate consol gamers because pc gamers think they are better than consol gamers/look down on them because pc gamers have more money to build nice rigs. Yeah! thats it! youre right, you got us! we elitist superrich PC-Gamers are the 1%! we control America and the rest of the world and our goal is to enslave the console players once and for all! PC forever brothers you all know our secret agenda! Edited November 30, 2011 by Arcadiast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frapfap Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 i think people hate consol gamers because pc gamers think they are better than consol gamers/look down on them because pc gamers have more money to build nice rigs. Yeah! thats it! youre right, you got us! we elitist superrich PC-Gamers are the 1%! we control America and the rest of the world and our goal is to enslave the console players once and for all! PC forever brothers you all know our secret agenda! i dont think you are getting what im saying. im saying it as human nature. the person with more money/more power/etc always thinks themselves to be better than everyone that dont have what they have. whether its concious or subconcious, that natural/primal power heirarchy is always there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadiast Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 i dont think you are getting what im saying. im saying it as human nature. the person with more money/more power/etc always thinks themselves to be better than everyone that dont have what they have. whether its concious or subconcious, that natural/primal power heirarchy is always there. "errare humanum est" that is human nature. Look, i understand what you are trying to say and i agree to a certain point. There are people who think that way but they do not represent pc or console gamers. Heck I know some of those guys myself but they are not the majority of gamers and therefore this is false! its wrong to take ones opinion and multiply it to a whole community. Can we agree that thinking because you have a expensive PC you are a better person than someone who has a "cheap" Console is moronic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindekarr Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) I think you might have a good basic point Frap-it may not be conscious, but it'd probably be a factor. Less so now I think that PCs have become much more affordable, but back when I made my first rig, you expected to spend many thousands for a Crysis-eater, and PC gamers tended to be a nice, welcoming lot, but with an extremely vocal minority of really aweful elitists. I consider myself a PC man at heart, but I'm always willing to play on Console if it's console exclusive, and I rarely feel any disapointment over optimisation on ports. Hell, I actualy preffer an Xbox controller for some genres. But thta's me though, I've always been someone who, as they encounter new things they like, tends to simply grow a longer like-list, rather than wanting to have a clear victor. Like with cars-some people will only drive one brand, such as in America Dodge fans seem to see fans of cars positioned as market rivals to Dodge cars as rivals, but I don't, for me Dodge has a few cars I really like, but so do it's rivals. For games, I have a few games who's communities seem to be incompatible-Battlefield 3 sits on my desk shelf slotted between Halo Reach and Crysis 2, Forza Motorsport 4 lies between Gran Turismo 2 and Dirt 3, EVE Online leans against a nearly untouched copy of WoW. There are games I dislike-Call Of Duty, Dead Space, Duke Nukem Forever, and Brink to name a few, but that comes from wholely negative personal experiences with those games, rather than a desire to alienate and rail against games "opposed" to those I do like that are similar such as Battlefield. Metro 2033, and Borderlands. In Australia some people think you can only like Ford or Holden cars and that if you like both something really bad will happen-I'm the opposite, I think if you narrow your mind so much you can't try the other options, you really are stuffed. If you like Chocolate Icecream, and someone suggests trying Macadamia, and offers you a free Macadamia cone, would you throw it in their face just because you like and only eat Chocolate? no, that would be stupid, because who knows, you might love Macadmia, you don't know it's not even nicer till you've tried it. Oh and MOPAR for the win. Edited November 30, 2011 by Vindekarr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frapfap Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) i know its a factor subconsiously for sure. Its part of the genetic makeup of people wanting to be better than everyone else. If this was false, society would have no advancement / no strive to create new and better ideas than people before them. Some people consiously bring out their "better than everyone else" attitude and are agressive with it, others do it subconsiously or are passive agressive about it. some people dont care for wealth or power and arnt materialistic in the consious mind, but subconsiously they strive for it. as for myself, i consiously dont think im better than anyone else, but my subconcious actions / attitudes towards some things say otherwise (complete opposite) "Competition" is subtle way of people claiming that they are better than other people. Its a sugar coated concept whether its intellectual or physical competition.that covers everyones inner "alpha male". It could be racing/technology/chess/football/etc. Our societies major activities and investments are based largely around peoples subconsious and consious "better than you" attitude. Whtehr its wining a drag race, boxing competition, or making the newest cell phone with the more features than other brands. Its all around us and makes up our daily lives, you just have to look past the face value of things and realize how it got there. It got there cuz people wanted to be better than the others. Edited November 30, 2011 by frapfap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesusismyairbag Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) You ASK and you ASK and you ASK about "lol can modz werk on 360? kthnxbai" and it gets on my nerves No offense, though, I'm sure you're not one of those guys, right? its a guys like this. elitists. i primarily play on pc, but i dont mind other platforms or people who sway towards them. the person i quoted needs to get a grip. Edited November 30, 2011 by jesusismyairbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frapfap Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) people look down on elitists but its elitists that make the best content, create the largest databases for information regarding builds, locations, spoilers, etc. especially in mmo's where people like me theorycraft for hours and crunch numbers to create the best tank/dps/support /healing builds with "x" amount of gearits elitists that create the "best way to do this or that" videos / posts. elitist go for the best so they can be the best and share their info with everyone else so everyone else can "get on their level" and enjoy the game that much more. Edited November 30, 2011 by frapfap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilllamas Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Because devs favour them, and we were here first.And everythings dumbed down/ shortened/ gimped for consoles. I look forward to the next gen consoles, at least we wont have graphics and content gimping on PC then- just a lack depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 i think people hate consol gamers because pc gamers think they are better than consol gamers/look down on them because pc gamers have more money to build nice rigs. Yeah! thats it! youre right, you got us! we elitist superrich PC-Gamers are the 1%! we control America and the rest of the world and our goal is to enslave the console players once and for all! PC forever brothers you all know our secret agenda! i dont think you are getting what im saying. im saying it as human nature. the person with more money/more power/etc always thinks themselves to be better than everyone that dont have what they have. whether its concious or subconcious, that natural/primal power heirarchy is always there. If people can buy new consoles each time it comes out they can afford a nice computer that lasts longer than those two consoles.It´s not a matter of being rich or poor, it´s a matter of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frapfap Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) i think people hate consol gamers because pc gamers think they are better than consol gamers/look down on them because pc gamers have more money to build nice rigs. Yeah! thats it! youre right, you got us! we elitist superrich PC-Gamers are the 1%! we control America and the rest of the world and our goal is to enslave the console players once and for all! PC forever brothers you all know our secret agenda! i dont think you are getting what im saying. im saying it as human nature. the person with more money/more power/etc always thinks themselves to be better than everyone that dont have what they have. whether its concious or subconcious, that natural/primal power heirarchy is always there. If people can buy new consoles each time it comes out they can afford a nice computer that lasts longer than those two consoles.It´s not a matter of being rich or poor, it´s a matter of choice. no because a pc is open platform and can be modded at will to keep up with new technology. a consol isnt and gets outdated fastit costs a lot of money to keep yur computer up to date with todays technology and to be able to play all games on ultra settings for the best experience. my pc rig > my ps3 by far http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292491_190455184354581_100001703011605_523865_723615_n.jpg http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/249670_163570497043050_100001703011605_418839_5199338_n.jpg Edited November 30, 2011 by frapfap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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