FitzConnor Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 This topic is not JUST about me, its for anyone to post their problems here, about basically anything. I will help to the best of my ability, and I bet others will as well.Now, to business. I dont usually have problems that I need to ask about, I only ask when I am COMPLETELY stumped. My problem is (spoilers):When I speak to the second intercom before the overboss fight, the guy who speaks first or second line crashes my game. I have no idea how to fix this.I have removed every mod that has been a proven problem, installed patches for most things I hope/believe.Mod load order: 0 0 Fallout4.esm1 1 DLCRobot.esm2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm3 3 DLCCoast.esm4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm7 7 ArmorKeywords.esm8 8 CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm9 9 JB - HmmWhatToWear.esm10 a DeadBodyCollision.esp11 b SpringCleaning.esp12 c OLYMPUS-SM.esp13 d Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp14 e NoAffinityCooldown.esp15 f TheyWantThatAss.esp16 10 RainofBrassPetals.esp17 11 QuickEnterFromStand.esp18 12 QuickExitToStand.esp19 13 MoreBipodAndSniperBarrel.esp20 14 PipBoyShadows.esp21 15 Extended weapon mods.esp22 16 CROSS_Uni_Scarf.esp23 17 NukaRadBans.esp24 18 MoreHairstyles4Female4.1.esp25 19 FO4LaserBolts.esp26 1a M9.esp27 1b M2216.esp28 1c Craftable Armor Size.esp29 1d Kunai.esp30 1e Lasers Have No Recoil.esp31 1f East Coast PA.esp32 20 Under1wear.esp33 21 JC-Shirt and Jeans.esp34 22 DesertEagle50AE.esp35 23 CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp36 24 Eli_Mufflers.esp37 25 OctaviusSentibar_Labels.esp38 26 Mac11.esp39 27 Beautiful Settlers.esp40 28 HalfGasMask.esp41 29 UniquePlayer.esp42 2a LK05.esp43 2b 40 More Female Hairstyles.esp44 2c Eli_ArmourCollection.esp45 2d DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp46 2e DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp47 2f AzarMoreHairstyles.esp48 30 Eli_Apocalypse Attire.esp49 31 CBBE.esp50 32 Scrap Everything - Core.esp51 33 Scrap Everything - Far Harbor.esp52 34 Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.esp53 35 MosesSubmarine.esp54 36 SpringCleaning_PP_BG_PCPIR_SI_Comp.esp55 37 Eli_Crafting Shiz 9000.esp56 38 BikiniCBBEtry1.esp57 39 Grasslands - Healthy.esp58 3a Grasslands - Unhealthy.esp59 3b M9 - AWKCR Compatibility.esp60 3c VhSmplBikini.esp61 3d Femshepping_wanderercollection.esp62 3e SettlersRename.esp63 3f TrueStormsFO4.esp64 40 Nuclear weather-TrueStormCompat.esp65 41 TrueStormsFO4-ClimateSettings.esp66 42 BetterNightVision.esp67 43 DarkerNightsDetection.esp68 44 GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp69 45 rtactical.esp70 46 el_precursorsuit.esp71 47 Eli_NukaStuff.esp72 48 CROSS_BallisticMask.esp73 49 LagrieHelmet.esp74 4a SlaveCollar.esp75 4b DelyteOutfits.esp76 4c ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks.esp77 4d RaiderOverhaul.esp78 4e Modern Firearms.esp79 4f CROSS_PlasRail.esp80 50 FogOut.esp81 51 DarkerNights.esp82 52 DarkerNights-TrueStorms.esp83 53 DarkerNights-FogOut.esp84 54 PlayerHomes.esp85 55 BTInteriors_Project.esp86 56 Hatchetsf*#@ingRock.esp87 57 CROSS_Gear.esp88 58 B-90.esp89 59 CROSS_Jetpack.esp90 5a Eli_Sleeveless Outfits.esp91 5b CROSS_Cybernetics.esp92 5c CROSS_Cybernetics_NoRobotFootStepSounds.esp93 5d RedRocketReborn.esp94 5e SCGRU_1.0.esp95 5f HeavyLaserRetrofit.esp96 60 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp97 61 Companion Infinite Ammo.esp98 62 Eli_MarlboroughHouse.esp99 63 Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Prydwen.esp100 64 Scouter_V1.1_by_Ruddy88.esp101 65 Scouter_AWKCR.esp102 66 Rangergearnew.esp103 67 HN66-SiriusArmor.esp104 68 dinoshelf.esp105 69 dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp106 6a MxRmor.esp107 6b Cat Ears.esp108 6c Glowing Eyes.esp109 6d AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp110 6e CharCustomizationOptions.esp111 6f Nambu.esp112 70 VaultGirl.esp113 71 Sporty Underwear.esp114 72 Motoko Hair.esp115 73 rfortaleza2.esp116 74 ApalLeotard.esp117 75 Lacy Underwear.esp118 76 S_Uniform_F.esp119 77 S_Uniform_M.esp120 78 cartman1975_ForgeX01.esp121 79 MorePAStations.esp122 7a Fallout Suite.esp123 7b dinomore.esp124 7c LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp125 7d AutoUnequipPipboy.esp126 7e The Eyes Of Beauty.esp127 7f TheEyesOfBeauty.esp128 80 Scrap Everything - Automatron.esp129 81 AIO SS.esp130 82 Live Dismemberment - Brutal.esp131 83 Live Dismemberment - Insane-o.esp132 84 Live Dismemberment - Liebermode.esp133 85 Live Dismemberment - Mental.esp134 86 Live Dismemberment - Mind-Blowing.esp135 87 Live Dismemberment - POSTAL.esp136 88 Live Dismemberment - Regular.esp137 89 LegendaryModification.esp138 8a ChineseStealthArmorLegendaryMod.esp139 8b LegendaryModification2LM.esp140 8c LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp141 8d LegendaryModificationCSA.esp142 8e LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp143 8f LegendaryModificationMisc.esp144 90 GaussRifleMk2.esp145 91 GaussRifleMk2 - AWKCR.esp146 92 tank_PA.esp147 93 tank_PA - AWKCR.esp148 94 Regent.esp149 95 Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp150 96 MoreBeards.esp151 97 MoreHairstyles4Female.esp152 98 MoreHairstyles4Male.esp153 99 MiscHairstyle.esp154 9a Deeper Male Protagonist Voice - Type A3 - DLC1-Automatron.esp155 9b Deeper Male Protagonist Voice - Type A3.esp156 9c AssaultronArmor.esp157 9d CROSS_MismatchedEyes_BlindEyes.esp158 9e Armorsmith Extended.esp159 9f Scavvers of the Commonwealth.esp160 a0 WestTekTacticalOptics.esp161 a1 Eli_RuggedOutfits.esp162 a2 StandaloneConstruct.esp163 a3 WestTekTacticalOptics-AWKCR.esp164 a4 CROSS_LeveledLists.esp165 a5 CROSS_Uni_Headset_LeveledLists.esp166 a6 Targeting HUD Enhanced.esp167 a7 ArmorsmithExtendLegendaryModifiable.esp168 a8 WRVR.esp169 a9 EnclaveX02.esp170 aa Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Railroad HQ.esp171 ab UnlimitedFollowers.esp172 ac Fusion Gun.esp173 ad Liberty_PA.esp174 ae AsharaFO4Steampunk.esp175 af Assaultron Junk Parts.esp176 b0 Assaultron Junk Parts No Comp.esp177 b1 DMJremixAWKCR.esp178 b2 DMJremix.esp179 b3 Femshepping_WastelandPinup.esp180 b4 JB - HWTW - NPCImplement.esp181 b5 JB - HWTW - BreakUndies.esp182 b6 Eli_PrudyVaultJumpsuit.esp183 b7 Secretary.esp184 b8 SynthGirl Curie.esp185 b9 Tesla X01.esp186 ba Chain Armor.esp187 bb BKFT_Outlaw.esp188 bc Custom Armors.esp189 bd rfortaleza2_AE.esp190 be Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp191 bf LegendaryModification Combined - 2LM and DLC's.esp192 c0 zgcquiet.esp193 c1 zgcsexytowel.esp194 c2 CROSS_Swimsuit.esp195 c3 LooksMenu.esp196 c4 ARESTsunami.esp197 c5 ValdacilsItemSorting-DLCAutomatron-Weightless.esp198 c6 NukaWorldLasers.esp199 c7 Nuka World Bot Fixes.esp200 c8 Tracers - Light em up.esp201 c9 AarwynsPicksCC.esp202 ca KSHairdos.esp203 cb CROSS_Uni_BosUniform.esp204 cc WastelandFashionAccessories.esp205 cd WastelandFashion.esp206 ce ARESAppleseed.esp207 cf 10mm Carbine.esp208 d0 10mm Rifle.esp209 d1 SkibsWeaponsMerged-AWKCR.esp210 d2 GatlingRifle.esp211 d3 PowerArmorT49.esp212 d4 UniqueFollowers.esp213 d5 Subtle Face Tweaks - Piper.esp214 d6 AsukaClothOfficer.esp215 d7 tsuki no hana.esp216 d8 SkyrimInspiredPowerArmor.esp217 d9 Sunlight Straight Sword.esp218 da ClassicSniper.esp219 db Tactical Flashlights.esp220 dc P99.esp221 dd MidWest PA.esp222 de BNPA_NAVI Armor.esp223 df SMH.esp224 e0 mjp_PTRS41ATR.esp225 e1 M45A1.esp226 e2 M14.esp227 e3 WO-G3.esp228 e4 R91M.esp229 e5 R91M - AWKCR Compatibility.esp230 e6 WO-L96.esp231 e7 WO-ScarH.esp232 e8 Ducal Guard Service Revolver.esp233 e9 WO-G20.esp234 ea hk 45.esp235 eb ACO_AE_Patch_2.0.esp236 ec Binoculars.esp237 ed Binoculars - AWKCR.esp238 ee Armorsmith Automatron.esp239 ef Armorsmith Far Harbor.esp240 f0 Armorsmith Nuka World.esp241 f1 Armorsmith Vault-Tec DLC.esp242 f2 Tracer.esp Help is VERY appreciated. :) :(Some more helpful info: Had no problems with transit, I have fully removed valdacil's sorting and dont plan to install it again for the time being, DEF_UI is gone completely. Validated files, full on desktop crash with no help why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Inspect your in game data menu item, how many cells have you entered that contain a truck load of quest stages..left undone?Your script limit is most likely reached a level that calls to shared assets to those scripts. Papyrus is stack-able and if too much is there, waiting to be completed, it will CTD and not leave behind any records to find.Go back one or two saves and finish off any uncompleted tasks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzConnor Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Thanks for getting back so quick. Its definitely not uncompleted tasks, because the only quests I have are the current one, prestons quest when you speak to him in sanctuary, vault dlc quest, and automatron quest. That is literally it. Edit: Used console for level and fast traveled to a safe house mod in the closest town to that border. Edited September 8, 2016 by FitzConnor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 open the nuka DLC, go to that point of engagement of where the issue lies..use xedit to confirm all assets across horizontally, in the tab bellow after you click on that "topic" look for a connection or what else references that point of action, see where or in what mod touched the references, finish those first, this will clear up the in game running quest stages.The fix is not to edit any thing, but to complete something forgotten. It's waiting to finish and the data "IS shared", it must use the main master file "Fallout4.esm" as references. you would be supersized at how some things are real simple but can not be found. These issue stump the biggest minds going, seems there are no answers because they can not see what hidden. The base game needs to be completed first. that's the bottom line. A DLC is add on content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRJump Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I've encountered even worse, just today. I started a new game, built my character's face, talked to the Vault-Tec rep, ran to the vault after the alert, got on the vault elevator with hubbie and kid and when going down, the moment the transition into the vault must occur, boom, CTD... (v1.7.12 with all DLC) In the two days before, I've started 18 different games because I all of a sudden (also with a new game) had a happiness bug at Sanctuary where it got stuck permanently at 50%. The 18th time I said "sod it" and continued playing, until this afternoon when I still decided to start a new game and eliminate a truckload of mods and also install some new ones... and that's when I'm getting the CTD, over and over again... Funny thing is that I can load the saves from the previous game with the happiness bug, despite 14 plug-ins are missing and that my last save was in the middle of a huge Raider headquarters of a mod I uninstalled? That save loaded without a glitch, but a new game crashes all the time... beats me... I'm about to give up for a while until the Bethesdians release an all in one game with hopefully all their bugs ironed out... I got over 5000hrs in the game in nine months time, so I think I'm ready for a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) I gave up 3 days ago on Fo4. Parked the hard drive, took it off line, and bought a new drive. Formatted it NTFS 32bit windows 7 pro.installed steam, noticed steam did not list most of the games I have downloaded as freebies. all other games listed as not installed.I installed only the tools sections for some of the most popular games, telemetry is very little now not hogging up my band width any more.Fo4, assets shown by the ck lists missing? well I have discovered where those assets came from. They came from us, all of us.After seeing that...I had enough. Bethesda has done things that no longer peek my interests. you want those missing assets, you will be required to down load a million tools sets from all the histories from their publishing's that 3rd party tool makers made to assemble them. Opinions: There was no need to program this game in this way just to hide what they used. You find out by digging in to things that seem weird.No more tracking here, I shut it all down.Even Rage is simple enough, a better game for what it is, more challenging too. They made their money. That was the point. The Nuka DLC does what its' name sake means...Nukes your game. Pretty much it. DLC conflicts them selves, Nuka is a rewrite of the master and cancels out every thing in between. NUKED ! Edited September 9, 2016 by Purr4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzConnor Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 So really quickly, I want to say thank you to everyone who assisted, but I managed to figure out the problem. If you want to fix the problem like I did, What I did was un-install all my mods, before the crash point, then add them by nexus mod manager categories (if they are setup for you). Then you want to check after you have done that category, and if you have a lot of unassigned mods like me, then you add them by their starting letter or number, e.g all the a's, then b's. if you have a lot of one category, add half, then the other half. One again thanks for everyone that assisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzConnor Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 I've encountered even worse, just today. I started a new game, built my character's face, talked to the Vault-Tec rep, ran to the vault after the alert, got on the vault elevator with hubbie and kid and when going down, the moment the transition into the vault must occur, boom, CTD... (v1.7.12 with all DLC) In the two days before, I've started 18 different games because I all of a sudden (also with a new game) had a happiness bug at Sanctuary where it got stuck permanently at 50%. The 18th time I said "sod it" and continued playing, until this afternoon when I still decided to start a new game and eliminate a truckload of mods and also install some new ones... and that's when I'm getting the CTD, over and over again... Funny thing is that I can load the saves from the previous game with the happiness bug, despite 14 plug-ins are missing and that my last save was in the middle of a huge Raider headquarters of a mod I uninstalled? That save loaded without a glitch, but a new game crashes all the time... beats me... I'm about to give up for a while until the Bethesdians release an all in one game with hopefully all their bugs ironed out... I got over 5000hrs in the game in nine months time, so I think I'm ready for a break.I feel sorry for you, and I wish that I could help, is their anything you haven't tried, such as uninstalling the game then re-installing, or anything similar like that? And, I'm assuming you have mods, so try my tactic I put up above, to find the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Enjoy the game as best can be provided it lets you.Kicking back and watching all new posts about Nuka's effects on other mods and the main game in general, writing a comprehensive review based on those. There is no rush as Sony's deal fell through. Current plans that are built into this game was-slated for that deal, so we may be seeing more updates to undue the damages caused by wishful thinking on the part of this publisher. You solution is the norm, always has been. I truly wish I could do more for you and others but the code is what it is. we wait for the "hopeful" repairs yet to come. I am sorry I could not be more constructive about the problems occurring with this game. But, I don't think I'm alone in how I see things, my point of view is just mine, but reflects others on par. Maybe in a few months time I will return to this game if there are improvements from the publisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRJump Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) Tried everything I could think of, except throw the kitchen sink at it; I rent the place, wouldn't want to get into extra costs :D I even reverted back to the 1.7.9 version thanks to a back-up I keep (got several of those) and no dice -even with just the DLC (minus Nuka World) and some stuff like ENBoost, ShadowBoost, SweetFX, Vogue ENB and the right version of F4SE running through Bilago's Configuration Tool- I can play up to the point where I go down into Vault 111 and when the picture fades to black and the music dies out to load the inside of the vault, I CTD, always and again at this exact same moment. Only playable stuff is that crooked savegame with the happiness stuck at 50% (although those saves were done with v1.7.12 they load without a glitch under v1.7.9). Only other thing that happened was that now -with going back to v1.7.9- I somehow lost my vanilla Furniture menu in WorkShop mode. Tried the fixes from the Snap'n'Build mod, but they don't work... Thanks for your consideration FitzConnor & Kitty (who managed to post while I was still typing away) :smile: Edited September 9, 2016 by JimmyRJump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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